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salon.com contacts DFU over FR's role in murder of Nick Berg by Islamofascist Terrorist b*st*rds
email from salon.com reporter | 5-12-04 | dfu

Posted on 05/12/2004 4:27:51 PM PDT by doug from upland

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Apparently, I am in the middle of a controversy regarding the brutal murder of Nick Berg by the Islamofascist terrorist b*st*rds.

I received the following FReepmail today from a salon.com reporter and spoke to him off the record. I will either call him back on the record or he can use my comments here on the record.

Salon.com inquiry, your post on the "enemies list"
From (redacted) | 05/12/2004 11:45:13 AM PDT read

Doug,

Hello. My name is (redacted), and I'm a reporter at Salon.com. On March 7, you posted a list of signatories to an ANSWER protest; that list, which is now being discussed by a few left-leaning bloggers, includes the name of "Michael S. Berg," who is the father of Nick Berg, the man beheaded in Iraq.

It seems as if you just posted a copy of the list from the ANSWER site, but the trouble is, your list appears much longer than the one on their page. Michael Berg's name -- and many others -- is not on their page.

So I wonder if you can tell me where you got your list -- have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?

I also wonder what you think about the fact that you named these people enemies; do you really think they're enemies? Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted. I wonder what you think of that idea?

I'm not trying to attack you; I'm a reporter trying to get to the bottom of this story, and it'd be great to get your input. Can you e-mail or call, or let me know where to reach you? Thanks so much.

--(redacted)
Reporter, Salon.com (phone number redacted)

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NOTE: my first suggestion was to tell the report to ask ANSWER why many of the names have been removed from that original post.

Here is my post from a few months ago -- HERE IS THE ENEMY -- they have posted their names

Here is the link for the following excerpt on an FR thread -- Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

Original source -- original article by Fintan Dunne

Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Breakfornews.com ^ | May 12, 2004 | Fintan Dunne
Posted on 05/12/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by Tarantulas
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death.

Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. His body was found last Saturday in Baghdad, and a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group-- was posted on the Internet on Tuesday.

The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.

The FreeRepublic.com web site and forum has a reputation for right-wing views, often fanatical Republican and relentless pro-war activism.

On 7th March, 2004, just three weeks before the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic forum.

It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."

The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).

Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."

That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service.

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Here is my immediate reaction --- what is the color of the sky in the fantasy world which Fintan Dunne calls home?

I can't wait for her next story. Let's set the scenario. Two guys are driving to the airport. Their upper radiator hose bursts, the car overheats, and they miss their flight. They get to the airport a few hours late and are able to catch the next plane. The plane crashes. Fintan Dunne headline: Pep Boys Implicated in Death of Innocent Travelers. If anyone could conceive such twisted logic, it would be Ms. Dunne. Without a defective radiator hose, they would have made it to the airport on time. Without a defective radiator hose they would not have been on the flight where the shoebomber detonated his loafers in the seat just behind the wing.

Do we have an official "enemies list"? If so, what do we do to them? Who is keeping track?

I will let you make some comments before I make additional on the record comments. Please don't be crazy. Think through your argument carefully. Some of this may appear on salon.com and we can perhaps help them get up to about 2 cents per share.


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To: doug from upland
"Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted."

The above "theory" demands a tin foil hat! If these "left-leaning blogs" want to be taken seriously, they should lean more on FACTS instead of some wild theory.
151 posted on 05/12/2004 5:48:15 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: SubMareener
My time machine is broken and I can't get to May 22 to see the list. :) (It is from last year.)
152 posted on 05/12/2004 5:49:50 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: EternalHope
TOTAL BS. Doug was clairvoyant and knew that posting Bergs name would come in handy one year later. I think Doug has been scammed.
153 posted on 05/12/2004 5:50:15 PM PDT by John Lenin (Leftists's have the brainpower of a moth)
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To: Travis McGee; wardaddy; Eaker
You must come see for yourself how far out in 'left' field they really are ...
154 posted on 05/12/2004 5:50:22 PM PDT by spodefly (A 12.7mm attitude in a .17 caliber world, or something.)
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To: doug from upland; jimrob
"JimRob got some hatemail:...Hi you filthy scum sucking fascist pig. I'm an attorney who will be offering my services pro-bono to help Berg's family drag your ass through every civil court we can find jurisdiction in. "

I am pretty sure that representing onself as an attorney, without having passed the bar, is a criminal offense.

That said, if this buffoon (or anyone else) tries it, they have no idea who they are going to have to deal with. 100,000 registered users, and millions of lurkers, and we have money, insurance, and great lawyers.

And many of us are ex military. 'nuff said.

155 posted on 05/12/2004 5:50:31 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Hillary was in charge of the FBI files, which went into a data base: WHoDB. Genious hackers, expose)
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To: doug from upland
Hi Doug!

Dear Salon Reporter...

You asked Doug this question.

So I wonder if you can tell me where you got your list -- have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?

It's called research....Doug did a little digging......something you and your fellow members of the press need to do.

156 posted on 05/12/2004 5:52:01 PM PDT by Dog (In Memory of Pat Tillman ---- ---- ---- American Hero.)
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To: alisasny
Anonymity and threats.
That's supposed to scare Jim or us?
LOL!
157 posted on 05/12/2004 5:52:30 PM PDT by onyx (Rummy's job is winning the war, not micro-managing some damn prison.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Brandon Mayfield has internet access from prison?




LOL!
The Oregon thug?
Is he a lawyer?
159 posted on 05/12/2004 5:53:25 PM PDT by onyx (Rummy's job is winning the war, not micro-managing some damn prison.)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
I'll bet that email came on the letterhead of a large law firm, too. You know the kind, with hundreds of high-powered partners and stuff. I can just tell from the professional business-like tone of the e-mail, that Mr. Yourworstememy, ESQ. probably should be taken seriously.
160 posted on 05/12/2004 5:54:08 PM PDT by diotima (Juke Box Hero)
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To: doug from upland
Man are we powerful around here! How bout the time we told SF's where Saddam's spider hole was located.

Seriously what is wrong with these people?

161 posted on 05/12/2004 5:54:21 PM PDT by armymarinemom (care package-->,socks $2.50, razors- $7.50, letter from home-priceless)
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To: doug from upland
what is the color of the sky in the fantasy world which Fintan Dunne calls home?

Apparently psychadelic.

162 posted on 05/12/2004 5:56:52 PM PDT by alnick (Mrs. Heinz-Kerry's husband wants teh-rayz-ah your taxes.)
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To: diotima
Bring 'em on - I'm sitting here watching "The Green Beret" with John Wayne - let's go kick some ass. :)
163 posted on 05/12/2004 5:56:58 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (http://www.code16.com/cat/)
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To: All
Nick Berg was most likely detained because he was wandering around alone in Iraq and not affliliated with any of the big companies that actually have contracts to do work there... THAT is a plausible explanation as to why he was detained...

Nick Berg was killed because the "things" that detained him have no respect for human life...even the life of an innocent civilian...
164 posted on 05/12/2004 5:58:50 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: doug from upland
If the reporter at Salon.com wants to know why Nick Berg was beheaded, tell him it was the Democrats who have been politicizing the misbehavior of a few prison guards at an Iraqi prison led by a fat drunk Senator from Massachusetts known as the "Liberal Lion" that caused his death

I'm sure it will take the nimrods at Salon a few weeks who I'm talking about, but at least they will be kept busy trying to figure it out

165 posted on 05/12/2004 6:00:33 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Injured Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
Exactly, lets go by their theory that Doug pulled Bergs name out the air in his original post.( It's not on ANSWERS web site). CASE CLOSED !
166 posted on 05/12/2004 6:00:48 PM PDT by John Lenin (Leftists's have the brainpower of a moth)
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To: Dog
It's called research....Doug did a little digging......something you and your fellow members of the press need to do.

LOL

Old Media just acts like little stenographers for the DNC. They are becoming as irrelevant as Old Europe and the UN.

167 posted on 05/12/2004 6:01:23 PM PDT by Peach
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To: doug from upland
This is a hit piece, obviously. There's this story at yahoo news that states that the FBI actually verified that Berg was not under suspicion.

FBI Saw Berg During Iraq Police Detention

This is the worst sort of slander.Demonstrably false.

168 posted on 05/12/2004 6:01:37 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: antivenom
Your "Standby Ackmed" line...had me blow beer thru my nose...now stop that!

I hate beer sneeze.

169 posted on 05/12/2004 6:01:43 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Donít go around stating the world owes you a living; the world owes you nothing; it was here first.)
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To: doug from upland
It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."

Doug, and the nameless Salon.com reporter who is undoubtedly following this thread with interest:

If they're our enemies, then they are the friends of the Jihadist mobsters and their 'left-leaning' American allies.

There is no way that they would take mention on Free Republic as a death sentence for Berg's son- at least until it became known that he disagreed with his father's views. And that didn't happen until the bastards executed him, and his name became a household word for those who are informed of such things.

170 posted on 05/12/2004 6:02:40 PM PDT by Riley
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To: backhoe
"Hi you filthy scum sucking fascist pig."

Yeah...you'd think that after years of using the same descriptions, they'd come up with something more original by now. Progressive my as®.

171 posted on 05/12/2004 6:03:05 PM PDT by cwb (Liberals: Always fighting for social justice in all the wrong places.)
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To: doug from upland
I have not read through the whole thread, but in case no one else mentioned it, these things can sometimes take on a life of their own. Were I you, I would save all correspondence and sent it to your favorite lawyer. You never know, partner.
172 posted on 05/12/2004 6:03:29 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: backhoe
doug, even the worst lawyer I've ever known could express himself more articulately and coherently than this:

Remember that this is a liberal lawyer. Probably got through on affirmative action.

173 posted on 05/12/2004 6:04:17 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: EternalHope
Your post was not a waste of time. I for one thoroughly enjoyed the precision craftsmanship of the author.
174 posted on 05/12/2004 6:04:26 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: doug from upland
for later reading.
175 posted on 05/12/2004 6:04:29 PM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Pukin Dog
Hey, PD. Good advice.

If this turns into something, it will be because of Hillary's goons. After reading "Hillary's Secret War" for which Jim Robinson wrote the forward and FR is featured prominently, I can believe anything of her.
176 posted on 05/12/2004 6:05:11 PM PDT by Peach
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To: doug from upland
Y'all are laughing about this, but we won't be laughing in a few days when this "story" turns up on the Today show, the ABC Nightly News, Nightline, or similar lamestream media show. They haven't had a good turn at the "right wing nuts" since Oklahoma City, and if a semi-legit outlet like Salon reports this, it WILL get picked up. We'd best be ready for the onslaught.
177 posted on 05/12/2004 6:05:23 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (And now, Dems_R_EVIL --- Pukin Dog)
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To: papertyger
But in bad weather, the chair is behind the doors. Jim Morrison took drugs and died.
178 posted on 05/12/2004 6:05:42 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
The leftists are already taking Rush Limbaugh's comments out of context and saying he thinks the Iraqi prison pictures are "nothing". They are going after him hammer and tong.
179 posted on 05/12/2004 6:06:26 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
I have seen things in the past few days that make it clear to me that the left has no concept of truth or honor. Since we cant all hire Roy Black to defend us, we best always take a defensive angle about things like this.
180 posted on 05/12/2004 6:07:12 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: All
APRIL 24:
March & Rally to free Mumia Abu-Jamal in Philadelphia. Imprisoned journalist Mumia Abu-Jamal has played a central leadership role from his death row cell in the global anti-war movement in the last two years. Mumia - the victim of a police frame-up and widespread prosecutorial and judicial misconduct - has, through his writings and speeches, provided one of the most compelling analysis of the Bush administration's war drive in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. Mumia has stood with the Iraqi people and all of those in the United States and around the world who have mobilized against Bush's imperialist war drive. It is essential that the anti-war movement stand in solidarity in the struggle to win his freedom. The activity on April 24, Mumia's 50th birthday, will take place at 10 am at 52nd and Pine St. in Philadelphia. In addition to promoting the April 24 Philadelphia action, the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition will be organizing an anti-war contingent in the demonstration. For more information: www.mumia.org, 215-476-8812 or 212-633-6646.
181 posted on 05/12/2004 6:08:01 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
Well, I'm confused; are the terrorists taking orders from us now?

Doug, this is a bunch of HOR$E$HIT!

Remember, these are the people who want to expose every single thing in the world, except, of course, themselves.
182 posted on 05/12/2004 6:08:24 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
You've gotta be kidding!

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

183 posted on 05/12/2004 6:09:34 PM PDT by mhking (Don't wait for the translation, ANSWER ME NOW!)
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To: Pukin Dog
I've freepmailed some of our best detectives on FR who can help out.

The left will stop at nothing to gain control and power and we ain't seen nothing yet.
184 posted on 05/12/2004 6:09:39 PM PDT by Peach
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To: doug from upland
Islamofascist terrorist b*st*rds

You tripped the libs up by calling them that. The left thinks of the terrorists as oppressed lovable brown Smurfs who only need a hug to change their evil ways.

185 posted on 05/12/2004 6:10:42 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: doug from upland
I also wonder what you think about the fact that you named these people enemies; do you really think they're enemies?

Well, I wonder if this reporter and the denizens of "left-leaning blogs" consider US to be "the enemy"?

It certainly appears to be the case...

(US meaning "us", not U.S., though that, too)

186 posted on 05/12/2004 6:11:40 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: doug from upland
What do the now-missing names have in common?
187 posted on 05/12/2004 6:14:48 PM PDT by Unknown Freeper
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To: doug from upland
Just further proof the left has more and better dope than us.
188 posted on 05/12/2004 6:15:28 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: MNJohnnie
ANSWER's member list includes known communists and anarchists I indeed consider them the enemies of this government. Salon should too, shouldn't they?
189 posted on 05/12/2004 6:15:44 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left has blood on their hands, Again!)
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To: doug from upland
I am assuming that the original list, apparently since modified at the original site, was cut and pasted onto the FR post. There is no way to document any subsequent changes.

If, on the other hand, the entire page(s)were saved, then they can deny it all they want.

190 posted on 05/12/2004 6:15:58 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: doug from upland
There's a story floating around the Rat circles that Berg wasn't murdered by Iraqis, that it was CIA playing dress-up. Could they possibly be tring to tie a CIA hit to his father's anti-war activities??
191 posted on 05/12/2004 6:18:47 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen; Ron in Acreage; doug from upland; BlessedBeGod
I think it is very possible that the Islamofascists:
- Knew of Nick Berg's father's ANSWER affiliation
- Knew that the father was more than just a show-up flunky for ANSWER.
- Believed that be killing Nick they would get a free and visible spokesperson for withdrawing from Iraq.

May be giving the idiots too much credit for coherent thought, but when you Google...

Michael Berg ANSWER

...the third listing is about a March of "tens of thousands" in Washington again the war in Washington:

http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-10/26/content_275615.htm

The last paragraph reads as follows:

"Something we have to realize is there might not be a good solution in Iraq. There might not be democracy with or without Americans," said South Carolina teacher Michael Berg, who favors a greater role for the United Nations (news - web sites) in Iraq.

(Sidebar: reporter probably made a factual mistake about Berg's home state, OR Berg lied about it to sound like he had come from farther distance.)

It could even be worse:
- Is it possible that the ANSWER folks are in active communication or beyond with the Islamofascists:
- Could it be that Dad is more than just a useful idiot in ANSWER?
- Could Dad know who had kidnapped his son?

Some of the implications beyond this are too morbid to consider.

I further believe that the attempt to smear FR is designed to distract from anyone investigating a possible ANSWER-Islanofascism connection, which my instincts tell me is there.

ANSWER may be more than the enemy. They may be ENEMY COMBATANTS.
192 posted on 05/12/2004 6:19:04 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: doug from upland
I received the following FReepmail today from a salon.com reporter and spoke to him off the record.

Why?

193 posted on 05/12/2004 6:20:38 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu líaidera)
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To: doug from upland
Doug ....do me a favor from now on.....only speak to this reporter in the OPEN.....do not allow him to get away with freepmail.
194 posted on 05/12/2004 6:23:07 PM PDT by Dog (In Memory of Pat Tillman ---- ---- ---- American Hero.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
And yet, no explanation, plausible or otherwise, follows.

I noticed that. Their regular readers (cough) must be used to such "logic".

195 posted on 05/12/2004 6:24:27 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Howlin
FINTAN m
Usage: Irish
Pronounced: FIN-tan
Anglicized form of the Gaelic name Fionntán, which possibly means either "white fire" or "white bull" in Gaelic.

Gee, I thought Fintan was a female. I certainly understand the "bull" part.

196 posted on 05/12/2004 6:26:45 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: ladyinred
Salon should too, shouldn't they?

A distinction without a difference!

197 posted on 05/12/2004 6:29:44 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"If this salon.com writer is interested in the truth,............."HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

COUGH, GAG.
198 posted on 05/12/2004 6:30:07 PM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: Unknown Freeper
The missing names are likely people who have had their names removed because of the publicity.
199 posted on 05/12/2004 6:31:54 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs)
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To: doug from upland
You have been holding out on us Doug, we had no idea you had so much influence with the FBI.:-) I do think the dumbing down of America is starting to come home to roost. That this "reporter" could seriously believe this is just amazing.

It seems to me that ANSWER doesn't want it known that this Father signed on to their list. Any rational person could conclude that, but a leftist certainly doesn't want to think anything bad of a fellow comrade. Especially when they can blame a conservative!
200 posted on 05/12/2004 6:33:36 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left has blood on their hands, Again!)
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