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The Sacred Muslim Practice of Beheading
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| May 13, 2K4
| Andrew G. Bostom
Posted on 05/13/2004 12:50:31 AM PDT by rdb3
Reactions to the grotesque jihadist decapitation of yet another "infidel Jew," Mr. Berg, make clear that our intelligentsia are either dangerously uninformed, or simply unwilling to come to terms with this ugly reality: such murders are consistent with sacred jihad practices, as well as Islamic attitudes towards all non-Muslim infidels, in particular, Jews, which date back to the 7th century, and the Prophet Muhammad's own example.
According to Muhammads sacralized biography by Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad himself sanctioned the massacre of the Qurayza, a vanquished Jewish tribe. He appointed an "arbiter" who soon rendered this concise verdict: the men were to be put to death, the women and children sold into slavery, the spoils to be divided among the Muslims. Muhammad ratified this judgment stating that it was a decree of God pronounced from above the Seven Heavens. Thus some 600 to 900 men from the Qurayza were lead on Muhammads order to the Market of Medina. Trenches were dug and the men were beheaded, and their decapitated corpses buried in the trenches while Muhammad watched in attendance. Women and children were sold into slavery, a number of them being distributed as gifts among Muhammads companions, and Muhammad chose one of the Qurayza women (Rayhana) for himself. The Qurayzas property and other possessions (including weapons) were also divided up as additional "booty" among the Muslims, to support further jihad campaigns.
The classical Muslim jurist al-Mawardi (a Shafiite jurist, d. 1058) from Baghdad was a seminal, prolific scholar who lived during the so-called Islamic "Golden Age" of the Abbasid-Baghdadian Caliphate. He wrote the following, based on widely accepted interpretations of the Qur'an and Sunna (i.e., the recorded words and deeds of Muhammad), regarding infidel prisoners of jihad campaigns:
As for the captives, the amir [ruler] has the choice of taking the most beneficial action of four possibilities: the first to put them to death by cutting their necks; the second, to enslave them and apply the laws of slavery regarding their sale and manumission; the third, to ransom them in exchange for goods or prisoners; and fourth, to show favor to them and pardon them. Allah, may he be exalted, says, 'When you encounter those [infidels] who deny [the Truth=Islam] then strike [their] necks' (Qur'an sura 47, verse 4)....Abul-Hasan al-Mawardi, al-Ahkam as-Sultaniyyah." [The Laws of Islamic Governance, trans. by Dr. Asadullah Yate, (London), Ta-Ha Publishers Ltd., 1996, p. 192. Emphasis added.]
Indeed such odious rules were iterated by all four classical schools of Islamic jurisprudence, across the vast Muslim empire.
For centuries, from the Iberian peninsula to the Indian subcontinent, jihad campaigns waged by Muslim armies against infidel Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, Buddhists and Hindus, were punctuated by massacres, including mass throat slittings and beheadings. During the period of enlightened Muslim rule, the Christians of Iberian Toledo, who had first submitted to their Arab Muslim invaders in 711 or 712, revolted in 713. In the harsh Muslim reprisal that ensued, Toledo was pillaged, and all the Christian notables had their throats cut. On the Indian subcontinent, Babur (1483-1530), the founder of the Mughal Empire, who is revered as a paragon of Muslim tolerance by modern revisionist historians, recorded the following in his autobiographical Baburnama, about infidel prisoners of a jihad campaign:
"Those who were brought in alive [having surrendered] were ordered beheaded, after which a tower of skulls was erected in the camp." [The Baburnama -Memoirs of Babur, Prince and Emperor, translated and edited by Wheeler M. Thacktson, Oxford University Press,1996, p. 188. Emphasis added.]
Recent jihad-inspired decapitations of infidels by Muslims have occurred across the globe- Christians in Indonesia, the Philippines, and Nigeria; Hindu priests and "unveiled" Hindu women in Kashmir; Wall Street Journal reporter, and Jew, Daniel Pearl. We should not be surprised that these contemporary paroxysms of jihad violence are accompanied by ritualized beheadings. Such gruesome acts are in fact sanctioned by core Islamic sacred texts, and classical Muslim jurisprudence. Empty claims that jihad decapitations are somehow "alien to true Islam," however well-intentioned, undermine serious efforts to reform and desacralize Islamic doctrine. This process will only begin with frank discussion, both between non-Muslims and Muslims, and within the Muslim community.
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abuse; beheaded; berg; decapitation; detainees; islam; muslims; nicholasberg; nickberg; nickbergvideo; prisonerabuse; religion; ritual
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posted on
05/13/2004 12:50:31 AM PDT
by
rdb3
To: rdb3
Now the truth is out, beheading is Islamic...perhaps it was raising the severed head to the camera that they say is unIslamic/sarcasm
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posted on
05/13/2004 12:55:35 AM PDT
by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: rdb3
They have even taken to doing this to Buddhist monks.
I am really so sick of these Islamic freaks.
Mohammed was a curse on humanity, right up their with Adolf Hitler and Stalin.
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posted on
05/13/2004 1:05:47 AM PDT
by
ambrose
(AP Headline: "Kerry Says His 'Family' Owns SUV, Not He")
To: rdb3
"This process will only begin with frank discussion, both between non-Muslims and Muslims, and within the Muslim community."
. . .think 'frank discussion' is an understatement. Took far more than that to move the the Judgmental God of the Old Testament to the more compassionate God we see in the New Testament.
In the meantime, the higher-conscienced world had better keep their/our sensitivities on 'shock and horror' as we witness yes, not what should be viewed today as 'sacred practice' but is and remains, for us, a barbarism and an atrocity.
We do not need to adapt an appreciation for the seventh century mind.
Or perhaps I am misreading the intent here.
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posted on
05/13/2004 1:12:05 AM PDT
by
cricket
(Liberals are a scourge . . .)
To: cricket
10-4 on that cricket.
The author makes really good points about the savage nature of Islam, then reverts at the end and indicates that this might be a good time to learn about our different cultures.
Yikes. Since 9/11 and the horrifying events thereafter, I feel like I have a PhD in Islam. I know all I need to know about this cult of death.
To: rdb3
I'm sorry, from everything that Muslims have said previously, this apologist has it wrong. Islam does NOT support mutilating bodies.
However, just to see if I am right or not, I suggest we offer this idiot up to be beheaded and see how Allah deals with it.
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posted on
05/13/2004 1:40:39 AM PDT
by
DustyMoment
(Repeal CFR NOW!!)
To: ambrose
Well, consider;
Jesus claimed that the key to heaven was faith in him.
Muhammed claimed the hey to heaven was slaughtering those of other faiths.
Jesus preached that people should try to love their neighbors.
Muhammed preached that the word was divided into two spheres - Muslims and those Muslims were to make war upon.
Jesus died on the cross for humanity's sins.
Muhammed began the process of murderous jihad that continues to this very day.
Jesus was opposed and brutally crucified by the leading religious and political figures of his land, and still asked forgiveness for them.
Muhammed was also opposed by the leading religious and political figures of his land. He killed them.
Jesus was a preacher, a teacher, and a carpenter.
Muhammed was a preacher, a brigand, and a warlord.
It is quite a contrast is it not?
To: MEG33
it wasn't as beheading.
They sawed off his neck. That's sick. It wasn't a clean chop off. I say we show mercy -- we don't hack 'em, we justkill 'em all.
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:08:50 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(W2K4)
To: ambrose
Mohammed was a curse on humanity, right up their with Adolf Hitler and Stalin.
Adolf and Josef aren't in the same category as Mo. How many did Ado and Jo kill? max 50 million each? Mo is responsible for 100s of millions, maybe even a billion. he also spiritually corrupted billions.
Mo WAS the prophet of SAtantalked about in Revelations
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:10:55 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(W2K4)
To: My Dog Likes Me
Yikes. Since 9/11 and the horrifying events thereafter, I feel like I have a PhD in Islam. I know all I need to know about this cult of death.
you think that's bad enuff? You read their holey book -- the Korn, that's pure garbage through and through. It makes the Mein Kampf seem like inspired writing
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:12:58 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(W2K4)
To: swilhelm73
You forgot one:
Jesus was the son of God.
Mo was the prophet ofSatan
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:13:38 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(W2K4)
To: rdb3
It's about time to return to the sacred American practice of nuking.
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:16:52 AM PDT
by
zygoat
To: My Dog Likes Me
"10-4 on that cricket. . .Yikes. Since 9/11 and the horrifying events thereafter, I feel like I have a PhD in Islam. I know all I need to know about this cult of death."
. . .don't know much about this author; but agree with you that he does not end, where he begins; and do not like his conclusions. I am really surprised to see this at FPM.
Perhaps he is a conflicted Liberal, still in transition to becoming a reasonably defined Conservative. . .(or just to say, an ex-Liberal, but not fully recovered).
Thanks for the '10-4'; confirming the 'right wave-length' for this reading. ;^)
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:18:04 AM PDT
by
cricket
(Liberals are a scourge . . .)
To: My Dog Likes Me
p.s. on this. . .["Yikes" . . .I know all I need to know about this cult of death."]
Does this author really want us to appreciate this as 'The Sacred Muslim Practice of Beheading'?
Honestly, am beginning to wonder if this is supposed to be humorous.
It is worse on the second read. . .double 'yikes!'
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:25:58 AM PDT
by
cricket
(Liberals are a scourge . . .)
To: DustyMoment
"However, just to see if I am right or not, I suggest we offer this idiot up to be beheaded and see how Allah deals with it."
a LOL bump on that!. . .
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:27:47 AM PDT
by
cricket
(Liberals are a scourge . . .)
To: zygoat
"It's about time to return to the sacred American practice of nuking."
This thread is getting frightenly funny; LOL!
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:29:06 AM PDT
by
cricket
(Liberals are a scourge . . .)
To: swilhelm73
Here's a pretty good email from my cousin titled "The Difference":
True story, folks.
By Rick Mathes
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?" The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He replied, "Yes."
I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!" The Imam was speechless.
I continued, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus, who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"
You could have heard a pin drop.
Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing > with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs.
I think everyone in the US should be required to read this, but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized.
Please pass this on to all your email contacts. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in prison ministry.
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:38:40 AM PDT
by
Caipirabob
(Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
To: zygoat
It's about time to return to the sacred American practice of nuking. I agree. We need to heat the place to 20,000 degrees and let nature start over in that part of the world.
BUMP
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:50:03 AM PDT
by
tm22721
(May the UN rest in peace)
To: Caipirabob
Americans' naive tolerance of enemies will be our undoing.
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posted on
05/13/2004 2:56:39 AM PDT
by
NetValue
(They're not Americans, they're democrats.)
To: All
Theothugs.
Eradicate radical Islam now.
To: Cronos
They sawed off his neck. That's sick. It wasn't a clean chop off. I say we show mercy -- we don't hack 'em, we justkill 'em all.
I'm guessing when terrorists scum hack off the head this is their way of showing contempt for the West, showing complete lack of respect for the victim as a human being and for America. A quick, clean decapitation sends a milder message. They killed Nick the way a sheep would be killed by having it's throat slit, then head cut off.
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posted on
05/13/2004 3:38:23 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(Exposing John Kerry--> Swift Boat Veterans for Truth---> http://www.swiftvets.com)
To: cricket; Cronos
I think that the author of the article is battling his views of what he knows are historical facts about the true nature of Islam, and his very own decent humanity and instinctive desire to start a dialog with these people to correct things. He is conflicted. He will be so until a dull knife is placed against his neck one day when he gets too close to these maniacs.
To: ambrose; rdb3
goodmorning'i have posted this link many times.
there is a direct link between the nazis and islam.
take a breath.
http:www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/index.htm
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posted on
05/13/2004 3:44:41 AM PDT
by
alpha-8-25-02
(saved by GRACE and GRACE alone)
To: alpha-8-25-02
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posted on
05/13/2004 3:46:21 AM PDT
by
alpha-8-25-02
(saved by GRACE and GRACE alone)
To: rdb3
End terrorism, kill terrorists.
Kill them all, end of story.
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posted on
05/13/2004 3:47:20 AM PDT
by
MrBambaLaMamba
(Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
To: NetValue
"Americans' naive tolerance of enemies will be our undoing."
We do it at the ballot box all the time. I think that makes your point.
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posted on
05/13/2004 3:55:39 AM PDT
by
billhilly
(If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
To: Caipirabob
Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith This exchange exposes this story as false. If an infidel is a non-believer then Jews and Christians are not infidels. The reason this is obvious is because Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all worship the same God of Abraham. Therefore they are all believers but not of the same faith.
To: zygoat
"It's about time to return to the sacred American practice of nuking>"I like that. Do you mind if I use it? I'd like to post it on my office wall.
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posted on
05/13/2004 4:07:39 AM PDT
by
sneakers
To: sneakers
sick muslims
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posted on
05/13/2004 4:12:54 AM PDT
by
Adam36
To: rdb3
Well said!
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posted on
05/13/2004 4:41:37 AM PDT
by
Quix
(Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
To: swilhelm73
One more..
Christians sit on the ground and pray to the heavens. That which is good is up, that which bad is down.
Muslims pray to the ground with their butt in the air.
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posted on
05/13/2004 4:53:01 AM PDT
by
IamConservative
(A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
To: ambrose
"Mohammed was a curse on humanity, right up their with Adolf Hitler and Stalin."
Both of whom learned from, and employed, Mad Mo's tactics.
To: NetValue
"Americans' naive tolerance of enemies will be our undoing."
That's a fact.
To: All
To: NetValue
I don't know if it will end up being our undoing or not. I do know that we have apparently not been hurt badly enough as a nation to fully appreciate reality. I would say the we here in the US have a better chance of surviving than the socialism-lite dupes of old europe. Because after we've been hurt some more we may develop the hatred necessary to win a war, which we have the means to do. Europe may awaken but they have no way to project the power necessary to save themselves.
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posted on
05/13/2004 5:25:44 AM PDT
by
johnb838
(Stand Up For Rummy!)
To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
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posted on
05/13/2004 5:34:12 AM PDT
by
SJackson
(Slaughter the Jews wherever you find them. Their spilled blood pleases Allah, Haj Amin el-Husseini)
To: MosesKnows
The Muslim cleric used the term "non-believer". HE doesn't think all three faiths worship the same God. Try to think it through again.
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posted on
05/13/2004 5:40:17 AM PDT
by
Taliesan
(fiction police)
To: rdb3
There will no doubt be some who with hardened hearts will quote Leviticus and claim that Christianity is just as bad. Wait for it; it will come . . .
Luke 12:4-6
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posted on
05/13/2004 5:42:47 AM PDT
by
BraveMan
To: rdb3
I heard for the first time this morning that Berg's decapitated body was hung from a bridge. That info came from a caller to WABC radio.
If true, the media have been softpedalling this even more than I knew already. All the mainstream media reports I've heard simply said Berg's body was "found on a highway overpass."
(This latest effort to downplay the Berg story follows ABC radio news's earlier portrayal of Berg's torturous death as a mere "quick decapitation.")
To: SJackson; dennisw; MeekOneGOP; B4Ranch; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; Salem; Sanch; ...
>> Sacred Islamic Beheading Ritual - BUMP
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posted on
05/13/2004 5:51:21 AM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
To: rdb3

| Tue Apr 20, 8:09 AM ET |
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Jermaine Jackson(L), brother of Michael Jackson, Jackson family spokesman Firpo W. Carr(C) and Khawaja Khurshid Reshi hold a rug with a woven picture of Michael Jackson April 19, 2004, in Manama. Jermaine Jackson, in the Gulf to promote understanding between Muslims and his fellow Americans, said Tuesday that Muslims are 'the new Negroes in America.' Jermaine, a convert to Islam and dressed in white Arab garb, has been speaking about Islam and U.S. 'adventures' in Iraq to enthusiastic audiences at Koranic centers and universities in the Gulf Arab state of Bahrain. (Hamad I Mohammed/Reuters) |
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FROM THE KORAN ITSELF... "HEIL HITLER" Now Upgraded to "ALLAH AKBAR?"
You may already know about this one: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. [al-Ma'idah 5:51.11] But did you know that there are 123 verses in the Quran concerning fighting and killing for the cause of Allah? Here are but a few passages: -Muslims are encouraged to be wholly occupied (Sura 2:273) with fighting for Allah's cause. - Allah will give "a far richer recompense to those who fight for him" (Sura 4:96). - Regarding infidels (unbelievers), they are the Muslim's "inveterate enemies" (Sura 4:101). Muslims are to "arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere" (Sura 9:5) for them. They are to "seize them and put them to death wherever you find them, kill them wherever you find them, seek out the enemies of Islam relentlessly" (Sura 4:90). "Fight them until Islam reigns supreme" (Sura 2:193). "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers" (Sura 8:12). - If a Muslim does not go to war, Allah will kill him (Sura 9:39). He is to be told, "the heat of war is fierce, but more fierce is the heat of Hell-fire" (Sura 9:81). - A Muslim must "fight for the cause of Allah with the devotion due to him" (Sura 22:78) - Muslims must make war on the infidels (unbelievers) who live around them (Sura 9:123). - Muslims are to be "ruthless to unbelievers" (Sura 48:29). - A Muslim should "enjoy the good things" he has gained by fighting (Sura 8:69). - A Muslim can kill any person he wishes if it be a "just cause" (Sura 6:152). - Allah loves those who "fight for his cause" (Sura 61:3). Anyone who fights against Allah or renounces Islam in favor of another religion shall be "put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off alternative sides" (Sura 5:34). - Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57) - Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5) - Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. (Koran 69:30-37) - I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12) - They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides. (Koran 5:33) - Know that paradise is under the shades of swords. Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 4 p55
And Speaking of Paradise... "There will be "gushing fountains" and everyone "shall recline on jeweled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine." Suras (or chapters) 55 and 56 of the Quran. "Therein are bashful virgins whom neither man nor jinnee will have touched before ... virgins as fair as corals and rubies," sura 55. A few lines later, you might remind them of "virgins chaste and fair ... they shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets." "The smallest reward for the people of Paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a.'" It will be the day, God willing, you spend with the women of paradise...Know that the gardens of paradise are waiting for you in all their beauty, and the women of paradise are waiting, calling out, "Come hither, friend of God." For much more on "PARADISE... A Better World?" click HERE
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posted on
05/13/2004 5:53:18 AM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
To: rdb3

Thus some 600 to 900 men from the Qurayza were lead on Muhammads order to the Market of Medina. Trenches were dug and the men were beheaded, and their decapitated corpses buried in the trenches while Muhammad watched in attendance.
This alone proves that Islam can never be a "peaceful religion." Mohammed was an evil seed, and his cult can only bear evil fruit. To the extent that our leders have believed otherwise has been a well-intentioned, but tragically flawed miscalculation. Islam hasn't been hijacked by fanatics, it is returning to its roots. There can be no peaceful coexistence between Islam and the West.
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posted on
05/13/2004 6:02:22 AM PDT
by
Sabertooth
(Mohammed wrote: "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers." (Sura 8:12))
To: Caipirabob
"Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing > with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs."
No doubt the 'diversification training seminar'; is not concerned with this fact of Islam; and is still making it's way into every prison in America with the same 'speal for tolerance'; and just hoping that no one will ask the most important question.
I don't believe the more moderate Muslims accept this as cumpulsory; but do not know how they get around it either. Am thinking that Jews/Christians/Muslims at least and in 'fact' share the same God; but then these radical Muslims like to kill Jews/Catholics/Christians. . .so maybe it does not matter; save for 'Allah'. (???)
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posted on
05/13/2004 6:03:12 AM PDT
by
cricket
(Liberals are a scourge . . .)
To: rdb3
Not very long ago there were reports of quite a number of beheadings in Indonesia ---- but the media doesn't report on too much negative when it comes to Islam and how it is taking over large parts of the world through these terrible means.
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posted on
05/13/2004 6:04:26 AM PDT
by
FITZ
To: cricket
I don't believe the more moderate Muslims accept this as cumpulsoryThe more moderate Muslims understand it's their own likely fate if they try to leave the religion. Moderate Muslims might feel uncomfortable worshipping a pedophile rapist who slaughtered many Jews and Chrisitans --- but you cannot leave the "faith".
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posted on
05/13/2004 6:09:02 AM PDT
by
FITZ
To: FITZ
"Not very long ago there were reports of quite a number of beheadings in Indonesia ---- but the media doesn't report on too much negative when it comes to Islam and how it is taking over large parts of the world through these terrible means."
Perhaps we could suggest that CBS or PBS do a documentary of Indonesia and their growing population of Muslims. . .and investigate just whose heads are missing down there.
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posted on
05/13/2004 6:12:33 AM PDT
by
cricket
(Liberals are a scourge . . .)
To: FITZ
"The more moderate Muslims understand it's their own likely fate if they try to leave the religion. Moderate Muslims might feel uncomfortable worshipping a pedophile rapist who slaughtered many Jews and Chrisitans --- but you cannot leave the "faith".
Well, that is quite an incentive to stay.
Seems the bigger question is how long will it take; before we are told; we are too late smart.
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posted on
05/13/2004 6:21:53 AM PDT
by
cricket
(Liberals are a scourge . . .)
To: shhrubbery!
The body on the bridge was a different person, apparently. Can't remember who now. Berg's body was found as you say. The media got it wrong.
To: My Dog Likes Me
"I think that the author of the article is battling his views of what he knows are historical facts about the true nature of Islam, and his very own decent humanity and instinctive desire to start a dialog with these people to correct things. He is conflicted. He will be so until a dull knife is placed against his neck one day when he gets too close to these maniacs."
We could argue, no doubt; that 'sex is 'sacred' and that a few of our soldiers were actually performing ancient rites and sacred practices on, and with, those prison 'detainees'. . .
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posted on
05/13/2004 6:28:50 AM PDT
by
cricket
(Liberals are a scourge . . .)
To: shhrubbery!
Thanks for this thread. I am sickened by the press and their manipulation of this horror. I have no pity for Muslims who stick their heads in the sand and allow their brothers (terrorists) to murder innocent people. Dear Lord please show your presence to our troops, encourage them and God Bless President Bush. Remind us what we are fighting for.

Picture is my grand daughter Gracie. FranApple
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posted on
05/13/2004 7:02:03 AM PDT
by
FranApple
(God Bless President G. W. Bush and Lord Help America to Unite in 2004, God Protect our Troops)
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