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Bizarre New Link In Berg Murder (FBI had questioned Nick Berg for Moussaou connection in 2002)
cbsnews.com ^ | 05/13/04 | CBS/AP)

Posted on 05/13/2004 4:50:22 PM PDT by KQQL

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To: woofie
So the terrorists were trying to convey that he was a "prisoner"?

I should have ended my post with a question mark. I'm just throwing out something for consideration. The suits are alike.

181 posted on 05/13/2004 6:46:29 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: GK_Chesterton

Berg may have been calm in the video because his hypothetical Al Queda buddies told him it was just going to be a staged propaganda film to show that they had a prisoner. They may not have told him they were going to kill him. Maybe they said they would add in "special effects" work later to make it look like he was killed. Since in this scenario he was working with Al Queda, he would have had no reason to be scared until it occured to him they were really going to kill him.


182 posted on 05/13/2004 6:48:21 PM PDT by JediJones (An O'Reillyan Conservative)
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To: MinuteGal
Here's a weird question....

(either I need sleep, or I've been a Freeper too long)...but why would the terrorists make a point of filming this execution for all the world to see....IF..Berg was found to be working with them...as super sleuths are bound to find out?

I mean ...what kind of message is that?

What if he were working with them....and then they kill him in this horrible fashion...

..do I just need sleep, or have I read too many threads on this?

183 posted on 05/13/2004 6:51:57 PM PDT by Guenevere (..., .Press on toward the goal!)
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To: piasa

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184 posted on 05/13/2004 6:53:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: TankerKC

Ok ....while I do feel bad doing all this tin foil speculating with an American who has been brutally killed, its hard not to


185 posted on 05/13/2004 6:53:52 PM PDT by woofie ( 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I still think he could have been the "Indiana Jones" type but naively associating with types who were up to bad things --- using him for his knowledge in telecommunications, maybe giving him odd jobs to do. Some people prefer adventure to money --- I can see that --- but I think the father meant it about these being his friends. The father seems more angry at Bush than at his friends.


186 posted on 05/13/2004 6:54:41 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: VOA

I couldn't believe it when I picked up the bird cage Norman Transcript and there it was -- Berg was at OU for a semester and then I found out that Moussoui was here too!

This is like fiction!


187 posted on 05/13/2004 6:58:15 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: JediJones
Obviously we know our intelligence agencies are either incompetent or barred from doing what they need to do or both after all that's happened.

Here is what I was personally told by the FBI home security team. They said they are playing catch up after so many years of not being able to communicate with other agencies until the Patriot Act. It might take months, or maybe years to link an individual to another person, then a cell etc. You get the idea I am sure.

I don't think they are incompetent, they have just been handcuffed for years, thanks to Clinton. They also said they have to still be very careful since the liberal media has people so upset about the Patriot Act, pretending it violates all of our privacy.

188 posted on 05/13/2004 6:58:28 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left has blood on their hands, Again!)
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To: Guenevere
They may have suspected he was a double agent.

Whatever this Berg's game was, I think he was in way over his head.

Leni

189 posted on 05/13/2004 6:58:49 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Two Week Coundown Till "Full Sails Ahead" for FReeps Ahoy FReeper Cruisers! HOO-YAH!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

He may have been drugged. After all, it wouldn't have made a good video if the infidel had put up a decent fight before having his head sawed off.

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I thought the terrorists said in the video that he (Nick) was being held for ransom or hoping that a Prisoner exchange could occur. Where is the documentation on this from our Gov.? Was the US Gov/Mil contacted by the terrorist? Why hasn't our Gov. confirmed this contact.


190 posted on 05/13/2004 7:02:12 PM PDT by juzcuz
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To: MinuteGal
Well yes, that makes sense.

It would also explain the rather calm demeanor of the young man., before his death..

...heartbreaking if true.....heartbreaking anyway.....it's all very strange, really.

191 posted on 05/13/2004 7:02:28 PM PDT by Guenevere (..., .Press on toward the goal!)
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To: PhiKapMom
This is like fiction!

When I saw in The Los Angeles Times that Berg went to Mosul to visit an "in-law"
(a paternal aunt had married an Iraq)...my ears perked up!

This is almost as wild as that story about the Iraqi ex-pat suspected
of being an associate of Tim McVeigh's...ending up working at Logan Airport in Boston.
192 posted on 05/13/2004 7:03:04 PM PDT by VOA
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To: JediJones

One purely speculative theory of mine is this:

Berg was in Iraq with the comm tower non-job for cover-for-action to travel around odd places.

His real mission was to act as a messenger, trying to become a go-between from Int'l A.N.S.W.E.R. to Al Queda. I mean, ANSWER can't exactly just pick up a phone to call Al Queda. To communicate with them, you have to GO to where they ARE, and fish around dropping hints, until you're picked up.

That's when you tell them the glorious news: you have come from a group "allied in the struggle against the Western imperialists" yadda yadda. You have a message, and an offer to coordinate activities, or perhaps hints on how to tweak their operations for the best effect, IOW, what and when to pull an operation which will result in the defeat of George W. Bush in November.

You expect to be treated fairly well, perhaps roughed up like the fake Japanese hostages/peace activists. After all, you can't talk to Al Queda, and just walk away like nothing happened.

But they saw the Jewish name Berg, and the Israeli passport stamp, and that trumped his ANSWER credentials. When the AG Prison scandal hit the papers.... Nick went on to serve a higher Al Queda purpose: human sacrifice on film.

That's why Daddy Berg (Mr. ANSWER) said "They killed their best friend."

The above is pure speculation on my part.


193 posted on 05/13/2004 7:03:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Right_in_Virginia; Shermy

Captured, or trying to make contact with AQ?


194 posted on 05/13/2004 7:04:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: PhiKapMom

The uncles brother was in Mosul, that is a center for Saddamists. It's suspected that Al Douri is hiding out up there. This is all so weird. What doesn't make sense is traveling to Iraq and then planning to go back for a wedding. That really doesn't compute. This is all so odd.


195 posted on 05/13/2004 7:05:53 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: JediJones
Berg may have been calm in the video because his hypothetical Al Queda buddies told him it was just going to be a staged propaganda film to show that they had a prisoner.

Bingo. Just like the Japanese "hostages" who were in fact "peace activists" of the extreme left variety. Like ANSWER.

196 posted on 05/13/2004 7:06:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: pepsionice

I'm going to say this again...how does one get into Iraq without having a predetermined reason? Isn't there a border to cross? There are no civilian flights into Iraq. HOW DID HE EVEN GET IN?


197 posted on 05/13/2004 7:08:41 PM PDT by Hildy (...Love like you've never been hurt and live like it's heaven on Earth. - Mark Twain)
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To: KQQL
"If he was working with them, why would they kill him?"

Useful idiot who had already served his purpose? One who they found had been rounded up in a sweep for awhile and were afraid had "talked"?

198 posted on 05/13/2004 7:09:41 PM PDT by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
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To: Ethyl
"I heard on the Glenn Beck show this morning that he (the dad) was listed on Freepers list as being a member of A.N.S.W.E.R. Can anybody dig that up?

Here you go.

Click Here

It's a real long list so hard to find his name and company but it is there. Also after you skim through that thread go to posting #351 and there is a link there to a thread where FreeRepublic and Dougfromupland is being somewhat blamed for Nick Bergs death for having posted this list. But this list was taken from the A.N.S.W.E.R. site which they apparently have now removed Michael Bergs name from their list. Also DougFromUpland has posted a thread that he got an e-mail from Salon.com wanting to know why his list on FreeRepublic was different than the one on A.N.S.W.E.R.

199 posted on 05/13/2004 7:13:22 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Hildy

Maybe he went in through Turkey. The same way he was expected to leave.


200 posted on 05/13/2004 7:15:19 PM PDT by juzcuz
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