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No Smoking in Movies?
NewsMax ^ | 5/13/04 | AP

Posted on 05/13/2004 6:42:49 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Cicero

Claude Raines played Capt. Renault. Paul Henried played the sainted Victor Lazlo, the husband of Ingrid Bergman.


21 posted on 05/13/2004 7:42:58 PM PDT by Hildy (...Love like you've never been hurt and live like it's heaven on Earth. - Mark Twain)
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To: wagglebee

In all fairness, they should ban cokes, fast foods and anything else that is bad for you./sarcasm

BTW, diet will probably kill you before cigarettes. The smoke police should think about that the next time they are stuffing their face at a fast food restaurant.


22 posted on 05/13/2004 7:45:17 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Argus
The old Hollywood Production Code of 1930 will be back

Good! The best movies of all time were made under the Code. Valenti was the one who scrapped it in favor of his "rating" system.

23 posted on 05/13/2004 7:47:35 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: wagglebee

Hollywood would only be happy if Roosevelt was shown smoke free holding hands with his male lover.

All the children would be allowed to see that,"G" rated all the way.


24 posted on 05/13/2004 8:24:27 PM PDT by Mears
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To: wagglebee
Premarital sex, homosexuality, adultry, sado-masochism, drugs, abortion, satanic rituals and etc., ad nauseum --all of these things are perfectly fine in movies, but smoking is the biggest problem in movies today. This is just ridiculous.

.aciremA s'tI

25 posted on 05/13/2004 8:28:16 PM PDT by In_25_words_or_less (Killing is badong.)
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To: wagglebee
OK... Raise your hands if you think that the Lord Of The Rings trilogy should have been R-rated for all of that "Pipeweed" smoking.
26 posted on 05/13/2004 8:30:52 PM PDT by Redcloak (Have you hugged your tagline today?)
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To: wagglebee
Chief movie lobbyist Jack Valenti defended smoking in Hollywood films, but senators insisted the industry must do more to stop the practice.

Of course these righteous senators mean "smoking tobacco". They wouldn't be speaking up to protest the smoking of marijuana, crack, etc. in movies.

Also they won't actually make a motion to outlaw tobacco itself.

Must be an election year.

I posted an article earlier this year about a movie called "Dig" to the music subsection of chat.

MTV refused to air this documentary about 2 bickering lead singers in part because of all the tobacco cigarettes smoked by one of the singers. Never mind that he reportedly is a heroin addict. The tobacco was what sent MTV into censor mode. MTV the channel that promotes polysexual encounters on programs like The Real World.

27 posted on 05/13/2004 8:33:39 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra are probably up in that big casino in the sky high-fiving eachother and saying "Thank God we're gone".

They lived good,long lives even with all the smoking and drinking.


28 posted on 05/13/2004 8:35:05 PM PDT by Mears
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To: MikeWUSAF
John Wayne is turning over in his grave about now...

Interesting you would use John Wayne, since he died from lung cancer.

29 posted on 05/13/2004 8:35:50 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I am trying to stop an outbreak here and you're driving the monkey to the airport.)
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To: jess35
What do they want next? Surgeon General warnings on movie tickets?

They'd be better off putting such warnings on the side of that big bucket of popcorn covered with butter-like oil.

Also they could put some reminders to "wash you hands after touching that 'sticky' stuff on the floor". Or maybe show a dancing germ to explain the contaminated seats that the patrons are sitting in. "Filthy Freddy here, don't be a Mr. Yuck, wash yer hands!!!"

30 posted on 05/13/2004 8:37:31 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: wagglebee

The "UNITED STATES SENATE" is threatening to pass a LAW to make depicting someone smoking a cigarette, in a movie, illegal?

The "SENATORS" responsible must be in the last stages of senility or just total morons.

These idiots need to be recalled, impeached, fired, voted out, or all of the above.


31 posted on 05/13/2004 8:37:35 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

What did Disney's Pecos Bill die of?


32 posted on 05/13/2004 8:39:57 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: Mears

"I could have lived another 100 years but I smoked a cigars every day..."

33 posted on 05/13/2004 8:41:58 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: FreedomCalls
Even with the Hayes code (which came in 1933 I believe), the Catholic League of Decency and local censorship boards (Baltimore's closed in the 1980s I believe) still didn't approve of all Hollywood product.

And this isn't even talking about the "adult only" expose grindhouse movies like Reefer Madness or nudist camp films.

34 posted on 05/13/2004 8:44:23 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: weegee
What did Disney's Pecos Bill die of?

Pecos Bill, a mythical cowboy, grew out of the imagination of southwestern range hands who told tall tales to pass the time and to out-do each other in boasting. His originator is unknown. The story goes that Bill, the youngest of eighteen children of a Texas pioneer, was lost in crossing the Pecos River and was brought up by coyotes. He considered himself a coyote until a cowboy convinced him of his true identity, a human being and the cowboy's brother. After returning to civilized territory, Pecos Bill became the cowhand who invented all the tricks of the ranching trade; in various tales he appears as a buffalo hunter, cattleman, railroad contractor, and oilfield worker. His activities include teaching gophers to dig postholes, killing snakes by feeding them mothballs filled with red pepper and nitroglycerin, and roping whole herds of cattle at a time. He rode everything in the West, including a mountain lion and a cyclone. He invented the branding iron to stop cattle rustling and the cowboy song to soothe the cattle. On their wedding day, Slue-Foot Sue, Pecos Bill's girl friend, was determined to ride Bill's famous horse, the Widow-Maker, but the animal pitched Sue so high that she almost hit the moon. Her steel-spring bustle continued to bounce her so high that Bill finally shot her to keep her from starving. Pecos Bill's death is a matter of controversy. Some cowboys say that he died from drinking fishhooks with his whiskey and nitroglycerin; others insist that he died laughing at dudes who called themselves cowboys. Whatever the mode of his death, Pecos Bill exists in cowboy folklore as a hyperbole of the endurance, enterprise and other qualities required of cowboys.

35 posted on 05/13/2004 8:47:24 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I am trying to stop an outbreak here and you're driving the monkey to the airport.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Well the modern archivists at Disney Inc. decided in their infinite wisdom to digitally remove the tobacco cigarette that Pecos Bill rolls and smokes in that film.

They still show him going through the motions but the cigarette itself has disappeared. Should have just cut the scene altogether or even moreso supressed the film.

Tobacco Bill Vetoed.(some Pecos Bill cigarette smoking footage cut from Disney's 'Melody Time') Entertainment Weekly; 7/10/1998

CHILDPROOFING 'MELODY TIME'

Fully restored" asserts the dust jacket for Walt Disney's Melody Time, which debuted at No. 4 on the best-seller list. But when the tape hit stores, fans of the 1948 animated musical grab bag--never rereleased to theaters or available on video till now--began logging on to Internet newsgroups to question that billing. It seems that the label should probably read, "Partly Abridged!"

Why? Because "Pecos Bill," the last of the film's seven cartoon segments, has been roped and hog-tied. In the original version (near right), the legendary cowboy smokes cigarettes incessantly; in one shot, he ropes a cyclone while rolling a homemade number on his tongue, igniting the butt with a lightning bolt. For the VHS edition, those shots, along with so...


36 posted on 05/13/2004 9:02:00 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: weegee

A Compilation of Lopped, Cropped, or Chopped Cartoons

Persistance of Vision




The following is a list of edited shorts, along with a description of the edited scenes and original and edited running times.

O = Original running time
E = Edited running time
WWOD = Wonderful World of Disney (includes Disneyland, Walt Disney Presents, and Wonderful World of Color)

http://venus.aros.net/~pov/issue08/censorship.html


37 posted on 05/13/2004 9:08:37 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: wagglebee
Most said they were reluctant to pass a law forcing Hollywood to take such steps, but Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., said that would happen if the movie industry didn't act.

Wow. Wyden sure has his nerve.

"I think the ball is in your court, Mr. Valenti," he said. "I guarantee you if something isn't done by the industry, there's certainly going to be efforts" by lawmakers.

Valenti doesnt give orders to the industry. He takes them. He has no such power to tell the studios what to film and what not to film. The only people who dont have the clout to stand up to Vaenti are the independent filmmakers who get an "R" rating, while the major studios get a "PG-13" for filming the same exact objectional scenes.

38 posted on 05/13/2004 9:15:29 PM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Damn me, I didn't know that.

I think this country could use a good dose of Mr. Wayne about now.


39 posted on 05/13/2004 9:18:06 PM PDT by TSgt (What have you done for your country today?)
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