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George W Bush: Punk icon?
BBC ^ | Last Updated: Thursday, 13 May, 2004, 10:01 GMT 11:01 UK | By Damian Fowler

Posted on 05/13/2004 11:38:29 PM PDT by weegee

George W Bush: Punk icon?

By Damian Fowler
BBC reporter in New York

It sounds unlikely, but there is a surprising new subculture emerging in the United States: Republican punk rockers.

In his knee-high Dr Martens and with his head shaved, Michale Graves is the Bush-friendly face of punk rock. He is the front man for the band Gotham Road, which has just kicked off its US tour. On stage he belts out angry, obscure lyrics, but offstage he is also known for his conservative rants and raves.

"The leftist radical agenda seems to be resonating loudly from within pop culture and we are at war on many different levels," he wrote in one of his columns at conservativepunk.com - one of several new web sites for Republican punk rockers.

Gotham Road is one a roster of bands who are anti-anti-establishment - though they represent a small percentage of the punk scene. They are not raging against the machine - they are raging for it.

Although Graves does not fit the image of a young Republican, he makes no apologies for his politics.

Core values

"I support this government because of our president's core values," Graves says. "I think he's bringing the country in a right direction. "Is there a better man for the job? There definitely might be, but from the candidates that we have to choose from in America right now, there's no better man than George Bush."

Nick Rizzuto is another self-styled conservative punk, and the founder of conservativepunk.com. The 22-year-old is a fan of the New York City punk band Bouncing Souls, and has the tattoos to prove it. But he identifies himself as capitalist punk, railing against the left.

"I don't find anything punk about promoting higher taxes and more handouts to people," Rizzuto says. "I would see the conservative viewpoint as being more punk than a liberal one, because a conservative viewpoint places a lot of emphasis on personal responsibility."

Anti-establishment

When Punk Rock emerged in the 1970s, it identified with youthful rage and rebellion. It was an anti-establishment subculture whose politics often tended to the left. The Sex Pistols embraced nihilism and anarchy, whilst bands like The Clash espoused leftist views.

It is not surprising that most punk bands in America today continue that legacy. Around 200 liberal and left-leaning bands, including crossover groups like Green Day and Foo Fighters, have teamed up under the banner of punkvoter.com with the goal of ousting President Bush in the November election.

Punkvoter has just released a compilation album of punk bands who are out to attack George W Bush as a liar with their music.

At the heart of this activism is voter registration. "One of the messages we're trying to get to people is please go out and vote against George Bush," says Justin Sane, the lead singer of a group called Anti-Flag. "But also we're trying to say to people, it's important to be involved in politics so you know what's going on, or one day you might wake up and realise that it affects you."

Polarised

Not to be left out, conservative punks also want to inspire their share of the youth vote. Some critics see the emergence of conservative punk as a symptom of just how polarised the US has become in this election year.

"This country is as politically attuned as it has ever been," says Anthony DeCurtis, a rock critic for Rolling Stone Magazine. "Often there's a kind of wilful lack of awareness about political issues in the United States - a sense of 'What difference does it make?' "But that attitude does not really seem to be applying right now and punk rock is reflecting that."

There is little precedent in the US for Republican punk rock, though there are some exceptions.

Ramones

Johnny Ramone, the guitarist for The Ramones, has fiercely supported the Republican Party for years. When the Ramones were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002, Johnny took to the microphone to offer his thanks, saying "God Bless President Bush, and God Bless America."

For many the idea of George W Bush being supported by punk rockers is a contradiction in terms. But for others, there is something about this phenomenon that makes a perverse kind of sense because of the Bush administration's hawkish posture.

"In a lot of ways in the United States, the Republicans have gotten much more punk rock than the Democrats," DeCurtis says. "The right has become more punk than the left : they're much more pugnacious, much more aggressive and much more forceful about putting out their ideas and drawing a line in the sand."

Still, punk rockers like Michale Graves sometimes feel alienated from the rest of punk rock scene, admitting that he receives a tremendous amount of hate mail. "Sometimes I do feel pretty uncool," he says.


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To: weegee

In the 70's anti-establishment railed against the right. Now there is a huge anti-establishment movement that is railing against the left. Really great.


21 posted on 05/14/2004 4:25:43 AM PDT by tkathy (nihilism: absolute destructiveness toward the world at large and oneself)
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To: 537cant be wrong
Those weren't plastic. Their bald heads were a genuine sign of dedication to the band (and an offense to their fans who knew them in their days as an R&B/surf band). They became the "antiBeatles" in response to the Beatles' beat sound that was sweeping Germany.

the monks Official website

22 posted on 05/14/2004 4:28:08 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: weegee

Interesting, and very cool! I'm middle-aged, but I like to keep up with what younger people are thinking.


23 posted on 05/14/2004 4:29:44 AM PDT by walden
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To: weegee

It should never be forgotten that the "punk" movement of the late 70's was, if nothing else, a reaction against the hippie thing of the 60's, a flushing out of all that was rotten and corrupt, and a return to the basics-three guitars and a drum kit. No strings, no horns, no manufactured multi-track mud.


24 posted on 05/14/2004 4:33:49 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (George Bush kills terrorists. Bill Clinton pardons them. John Al-Qerry will apologize to them.)
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To: 537cant be wrong
Here is Dave Day with Bill Haley:

Bill Haley was a punk in his day (even if some wouldn't say that). He played "Rip It Up" when he was playing Texas Swing gigs in New Jersey. He wasn't supposed to play any R&B but they'd put in the set anyway.

Play the music a way it wasn't meant to be played in a bar where it wasn't meant to be played.

Paul Burlison was a punk. His tubes came loose in his amp and he took to loosening them to get a distorted sound when he'd play "Train Kept A Rollin'" for the Johnny Burnette Trio.

Link Wray was a punk. He'd play only certain guitars, using older strings, and took pencils to bust his speakers to get the distorted sounds he wanted. Play it a way it wasn't meant to be played. He got banned for an instrumental named Rumble (it was "too suggestive"). He inspired many a guitar player to pick up a guitar (including Pete Townsend).

25 posted on 05/14/2004 4:36:15 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Exactly.


26 posted on 05/14/2004 4:36:49 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: itsamelman

refreshing


27 posted on 05/14/2004 4:41:13 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: weegee
Damn! A pic of my beloved Monks on FR! What a great band. I love this site!

It's Monk time!
It's Monk time!

28 posted on 05/14/2004 4:47:26 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: weegee
Bill Haley was a punk in his day

I saw a film recently that was shot in 78-79 in England of a Teddy Boy (rockabilly) festival. The homegrown bands were ok, especially Crazy Cavan. Headlining was Bill Haley, and he showed the youngsters how it was done - he blew them all off the stage! Great rock and roll!
29 posted on 05/14/2004 4:49:15 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: egarvue
Then you might know this...

Was Michael Graves also in the Bronx Casket Company with DD Verni and Tim Mallare from Overkill?

30 posted on 05/14/2004 5:03:21 AM PDT by nonliberal (Bush 2004: He is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.)
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To: DeuceTraveler
And it looks like I got some new bands to listen to.

Also try a band called Stuck Mojo. Their album "Rising" included the song "Crooked Figurehead" about Clintler and got them investigated by the Secret Service. Their other albums also have a decidedly conservative bent.

31 posted on 05/14/2004 5:06:52 AM PDT by nonliberal (Bush 2004: He is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.)
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To: E Rocc

Slayer's "Silent Scream" is decidedly anti-abortion. Some interviewers have complained that they can't do an interview with Slayer because the band had Rush Limbaugh turned up so loud that it drowned everything else out.


32 posted on 05/14/2004 5:10:07 AM PDT by nonliberal (Bush 2004: He is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.)
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To: weegee

link wray also was the guy who influenced kieth richards with "the rummble"
if you want to hear some really wierd cross over stuff,
check out muddy waters attempt at psych/punk "electric mudd" way heavy distortion fuzz guitar.
also james brown actually produced an album called "sure is funky down here" where the band is a hippie commune band called The groedeck whipperginny. lots of snarly licks.

i have tons of links stuff and i really love rockabilly.
i play a little guitar myself and love the double note leads of rockabilly


33 posted on 05/14/2004 5:11:05 AM PDT by 537cant be wrong (the lib turneraitor)
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To: RePunKlican87

ping :)


34 posted on 05/14/2004 5:14:55 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: weegee

BTTT


35 posted on 05/14/2004 5:21:36 AM PDT by Sam's Army (Hang up and drive, dammit!)
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To: RepoGirl

ping...


36 posted on 05/14/2004 5:32:59 AM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: weegee

bttt


37 posted on 05/14/2004 5:52:24 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: itsamelman; labowski; LibertyGrrrl; marktuoni; Sam's Army; RepoGirl; Redcoat LI; mylife; ...

Hell yeah PING!

38 posted on 05/14/2004 8:23:43 AM PDT by bc2 ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" - harpseal)
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To: nonliberal

Slayer Bump, from an old Right-Wing Punk! ;0)


39 posted on 05/14/2004 8:32:24 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (You make me feel warm all over. No...wait...I'm soaking in a puddle of my own urine.)
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To: weegee
Liberal Political Correctness IS THE NEW ESTABLISHMENT

In Boston,it's the only establishment.

You Rail Against The Authority You Have.

40 posted on 05/14/2004 8:35:48 AM PDT by Redcoat LI (What Is Man That Thou Art Mindful of Him)
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