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New Florida Laws Address Gun Ranges, Gun-Owner Database
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 5/14/04 | Susan Jones

Posted on 05/14/2004 3:25:56 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - A Second Amendment group is congratulating Florida Gov. Jeb Bush for signing two bill that protect the interests of gun owners.

One bill prevents police from keeping a database of law-abiding gun owners. Such lists amount to "de factor gun registration," said the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA).

Under the law, police and government agencies could be fined up to $5 million for maintaining an electronic database of gun owners. The law provides a "reasonable exemption" for creating such a list if it is part of a criminal investigation, CCRKBA noted.

"There is no sensible reason for a police agency to maintain a list of law-abiding firearms owners, who have committed no crime and are not suspects in a crime," said CCRKBA Executive Director Joe Waldron.

"This new state law will provide one more layer of security for the privacy of law-abiding gun owners in Florida," he added. "Henceforth, without legitimate cause, the identities of private citizens who exercise their constitutional right to keep and bear arms will not be available to police or government bureaucrats who might exploit that information for their own political agendas."

Gun range immunity


Governor Bush also signed legislation giving the owners of gun ranges immunity from lead clean-up lawsuits. Such lawsuits would be financially devastating for gun range owners, CCRKBA said.

The law Gov. Bush signed on Thursday will set up environmental guidelines for gun range owners to follow so they can minimize lead contamination on and near their property.

"Anti-gunners will not be able to litigate a gun range into bankruptcy as a means of shutting down the range," Waldron said. "At the same time, responsible range operators will now have a set of protocols for keeping their ranges clean."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; environment; privacy

1 posted on 05/14/2004 3:25:57 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Jeb might even succeed "w" in Washington
2 posted on 05/14/2004 3:55:04 AM PDT by chainsaw (http://www.hanoi-john.org.)
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To: kattracks

Thank you Jeb Bush!


3 posted on 05/14/2004 3:56:08 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase ("Every man dies, but not every man truly lives...." Braveheart)
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To: kattracks

Well done, Jeb Bush! Time and again, I've logged onto some (mostly-ignored) thread, and read about something this governor has done in a small way to advance the conservative cause. Floridians are very lucky to have him.


4 posted on 05/14/2004 3:56:33 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: chainsaw
Jeb might even succeed "w" in Washington

I hope not. We need a real conservative in the WH. Jeb would probably be worse on immigration than 'W' is.

5 posted on 05/14/2004 5:14:42 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

I wish we had a Governor like Jeb Bush instead of Mike Easley here in NC.


6 posted on 05/14/2004 5:18:36 AM PDT by ChevyZ28 (Most of us would rather be ruined by praise, than saved by criticism.)
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To: ChevyZ28

"I wish we had a Governor like Jeb Bush instead of Mike Easley here in NC."

Ditto. We have rabid anti-gunner Rod Blagodimwit as governor here in Illinois.


7 posted on 05/14/2004 5:33:31 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: ought-six

For some reason, the GOP just doesn't seem to run its best candidates on the state level. I can't speak for your state, but the GOP candidates for governor here in NC have royally sucked year after year, making it easier for cronies like Mike Easley to win on the Democrats side. Easley has done nothing but make a big mess left by Jim Hunt in to a catastrophy.


8 posted on 05/14/2004 5:48:43 AM PDT by ChevyZ28 (Most of us would rather be ruined by praise, than saved by criticism.)
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To: *bang_list

bang


9 posted on 05/14/2004 7:14:21 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Mogollon
"We need a real conservative in the WH."

Jeb is FAR more conservative than his brother. Jeb has never waffled on the 2nd Amendment. He is pro Education. Do you know that he takes some time each week to go and mentor school children? Young kids, too. It's not a public photo op either. He really cares. He's a good friend of mine from long before he was the Governor. Well, a family friend. I'd take Jeb over W anyday and not look back.

10 posted on 05/14/2004 1:52:53 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic. (R.I.P. harpseal))
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To: ExSoldier
Jeb is FAR more conservative than his brother.

Probably so, but I for one would like to see Jeb drop his opposition to oil drilling in the Gulf.

11 posted on 05/14/2004 1:58:05 PM PDT by AngryJawa (Thank You Troops!)
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To: AngryJawa
" I for one would like to see Jeb drop his opposition to oil drilling in the Gulf."

Me, too. I think the enviros have a real strangle hold on many lawmakers in the state. I firmly believe that in the time since the last oil spill from drilling ops, the technology has come far enough to make this safe and viable. I also think we oughta drill ANWAR like a $10 Hooker. If gas prices soar much further even the liberal little "greenies" will be crying for this for their garaged SUV's which they only drive at night.

12 posted on 05/14/2004 6:41:12 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic. (R.I.P. harpseal))
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To: kattracks
The modern debate over the wording of the Second Amendment could be quickly resolved if the Amendment was read through the preamble to the Bill of Rights. A preamble to the Bill of Rights? What are you talking about? You mean the preamble to the Constitution don't you? No Senators Kennedy, Feinstein, Schumer, Lautenberg and your fellow gun-grabbing buddies, we mean the preamble to the Bill of Rights. Next to Hillary Clinton's billing records from the Rose Law Firm, this little known text might be the most closely guarded secret in American History.

Following the Federal Convention of 1787 and the subsequent ratification of the Constitution, the several States began submitting amendments to Congress for consideration. By September of 1789 Congress had reduced 210 separate amendments to 12. The amendments were inserted into a congressional resolution and submitted to the several States for consideration. Of these, numbers 2-12 were adopted and became the so-called Bill of Rights.

A little known fact about this resolution is that it contained a preamble declaring the purpose of the proposed amendments. Most modern editions of the Bill of Rights either do not contain the preamble or only include the last paragraph. The complete preamble, which is still part of the Bill of Rights, is printed below as it appeared in the 1789 resolution:

Congress of the United States,
begun and held at the City of New York, on Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.t

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

As stated in the preamble, the only purpose of the proposed amendments was to prevent the federal government from "misconstruing or abusing its powers." To accomplish this, "further declaratory and restrictive clauses" were being proposed. The amendments, when adopted, placed additional restraints or limitations on the powers of the federal government. Thus, every clause of the Bill of Rights, without exception, is either a declaratory statement or a restrictive provision.

A declaratory clause, pursuant to English language dictionaries, is a simple statement or assertion. A restrictive clause is a statement that restricts or limits. If the Second Amendment is read through the preamble, it reads as follows:

Article II. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, (declaratory clause) the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. (restrictive clause)

The first part of the Amendment is declaratory, not restrictive, because it is merely an assertion or statement that a well-regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free State. It does not grant the States or the people any rights. It also does not restrict the federal government from exercising any power. Thus, the first part of the Amendment has no effect on the right to keep and bear arms, "collective [State] or individual."

The second clause, like the first, does not grant the States or the people any rights. Therefore, any assertion that the Second Amendment grants rights, "collective or individual," is constitutionally inaccurate. In addition, since the Amendment did not create any rights, then the right enumerated, whether it be collective or individual, had to be an existing right.

This leaves us with only one option concerning the second part of the Amendment. It is restrictive, not declaratory, because it specifically places a restraint on the exercise of power by the federal government.

Those groups and individuals opposed to the private ownership of firearms claim this restraint pertains to the State militias. According to the Brady Campaign, the Second Amendment was adopted "to prevent the federal government from disarming the State militias."

The U.S. Constitution established a permanent professional army, controlled by the federal government. With the memory of King George III's troops fresh in their minds, many of the "anti-federalists" feared a standing army as an instrument of oppression. State militias were viewed as a counterbalance to the federal army and the Second Amendment was written to prevent the federal government from disarming the state militias.

The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence claims the Amendment was adopted to "ensure the right of the states to maintain their own militias."

The Second Amendment was adopted to ensure the right of states to maintain their own militia to protect themselves against foreign and federal encroachment.

The Second Amendment, as shown by the preamble, does not place any restraint on the powers federal government concerning the States or their militias. Consequently, any assertion the Second Amendment restricts the powers of the federal government concerning the State militias is patently false.

There is another way to use the preamble to prove this fact. In a sentence, a non-restrictive clause gives information that is not essential to the meaning of a sentence. This information can be removed without changing the meaning of the sentence. A restrictive clause gives information that is critical to the meaning of a sentence and cannot be removed without changing the meaning of a sentence. If the Second Amendment is read through this sentence structure, the declaratory clause in the first part of the Amendment is the non-restrictive clause because it does not restrain the exercise of power. Thus, the Amendment reads as follows:

Article II. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, (non-restrictive clause) the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. (restrictive clause)

This sentence structure triggers a question. Is the existence of a State militia essential to a people's right to keep and bear arms? The answer is no because people can have a right to keep and bear arms without the existence of a State militia. In the alternative, since the word militia, as used in the Second Amendment refers to an armed citizenry, not a State organized army, you cannot have a State militia unless that same people has the right to keep and bear arms. From a constitutional standpoint, State militias exist because the individual citizens who make-up those militias have the right to keep and bear arms. Thus, the individual right to keep and bear arms is essential to the existence of a State militia--not visa versa.

Since the phrase--"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State," is the non-restrictive or non-essential part of the Amendment, then, as stated above, it can be removed without changing the meaning of the sentence. In addition, this phrase is an incomplete thought and cannot stand alone as a sentence. Thus, it needs addition information to give it meaning.

Conversely, the phrase--"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed," is the restrictive or essential part of the Amendment. It cannot be removed without changing the meaning of the sentence. This phrase is a complete thought and can stand alone as a sentence because it does not need additional information to give it meaning.

If the non-restrictive part is removed and the Amendment is read in a manner that allows the verbiage to stand alone as a complete thought, then the Second Amendment can be reduced to the following sentence:

[T]he right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Those groups and individuals who advance the militia interpretation of the Second Amendment have failed to grasp the significance of this verbiage. If the purpose of the Second Amendment was to prevent the federal government from disarming the State militias as organizations like the Brady Campaign claim, then this sentence structure accomplishes that goal. By denying the federal government the power to infringe the existing right of the people right to keep and bear arms, the State militias could never be constitutionally disarmed because the people of the individual States are the militia referenced in the Amendment. Thus, the States would retain the so-called right to maintain armed militias. Irrespective of how organizations like the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence attempt to twist the sentence structure of the Second Amendment, it is the right of individual citizens to keep and bear arms that ensures the existence of the State militias contemplated by the Founders.

In conclusion, the preamble to the Bill of Rights shows that the purpose of the Amendments was to prevent the federal government from abusing its delegated powers. To accomplish this, further declaratory and restrictive clauses were being added to restrain the exercise of power by the federal government. Thus, the preamble negates any assertion that the purpose of the Second Amendment was to grant the States the right to maintain armed militias. It also negates the claim that the Amendment granted the people an individual right to keep and bear arms. The sole purpose of the Second Amendment was to place an enumerated restraint on the powers of the federal government concerning the existing right of the people to keep and bear arms.


Robert Greenslade focuses his writing on issues surrounding the federal government and the Constitution. He believes politicians at the federal level, through ignorance or design, are systematically dismantling the Constitution in an effort to expand their power and consolidate control over the American people. He has dedicated himself to resurrecting the true intent of the Constitution in the hope that the information will contribute, in some small way, to restoring the system of limited government established by the Constitution.


13 posted on 08/02/2004 2:32:10 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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