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Support for Bush plummets over Iraq (Zogby Poll: Iraq approval 36%, job approval 42%)
FT.com ^ | 5.14.04

Posted on 05/14/2004 3:43:30 PM PDT by ambrose

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GWB approval rating is obviously not good at this point. The GWB camp has run one of the worst campaigns in recent history (for an incumbent......though, just like his father did). Which boggles my mind...You think he would have learned from his fathers mistakes...with regard to setting the premise on the economy...NOT LETTING THE ECONOMY BE DEFINED BY THE DNC (WHICH IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED).

The GWB camp is Lazy. That is the only conclusion I can come to. They sat back and allowed the DNC and partisan media to attack the economy and WOT since Oct of last year....they never responded until March of this year (and since then, have chosen to respond in the manner in which the least amount of energy is expensed).

Zogby is biased ...no doubt....but poll after poll is showing GWB approval rating sinking...(don't talk to me about Rassmuseen....I went with POA in 2000....not again this year...).

41 posted on 05/14/2004 4:41:28 PM PDT by FA14
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To: demlosers

This is all a bunch of crap. All is hear is how this country is so evenly divided, and how there are only 5% left undecided and all this guff. But then the polls change significantly over a two-week period. And then when they analyze individual state polls, Bush is still winning based on electoral votes. Complete crap.


42 posted on 05/14/2004 4:43:54 PM PDT by raptor29
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"The GWB camp is Lazy. That is the only conclusion I can come to."

Or shrewd. Right now Kerry might as well not be campaigning because of the full court press going on by the media. The President could spend half of his war chest right now and it wouldn't be noticed in the current media storm.

On the other hand, they can let this media crap storm blow itself out and conserve their money for when it will be most effective.

43 posted on 05/14/2004 4:45:13 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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...NOT LETTING THE ECONOMY BE DEFINED BY THE DNC (WHICH IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED).

Uh, have you noticed that Kerry no longer talks about the economy?

The economy is improving, will continue to improve.

I contend that it is the Kerry campaign that is inept, and that he has very shallow support.

Americans don't like Kerry much. That much we know.

He is certainly not trusted as honest and trustworthy.

And, he has nothing to add to Iraq.

44 posted on 05/14/2004 4:49:46 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: FA14

45 posted on 05/14/2004 4:50:55 PM PDT by TonyInOhio
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To: CWOJackson

no, they aren't shrewd at all. they have no media strategy, we are never on offense, we don't have a dedicated set of senators et al with talking points to flood these talk shows and represent our positions. Zell Miller and Joe Liberman have been better on this prison issue then most of the Republicans.


46 posted on 05/14/2004 4:51:14 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: ambrose

Pieces of crap media are doing their jobs for Kerry and the terrorists. My anger is beyond expression.


47 posted on 05/14/2004 4:52:17 PM PDT by ladyinred (Torture is what happened to Nick Berg!)
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"no, they aren't shrewd at all."

How many times have I heard that coming from the left, right, up and down. People have an amazing aptitude for underestimating the President.

48 posted on 05/14/2004 4:52:50 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

I am really talking more about the white house political team (Rove, etc) then Bush himself. I don't expect Bush to be cobbling together a media strategy - that's what Rove and perhaps Karen Hughes are supposed to do.


49 posted on 05/14/2004 4:54:58 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: ambrose

This Poll is meant to sow doubt in our minds. All signs point to a Landslide win by the President in November. Bush needs to keep doing what he's doing and we need to keep advancing our arguments. Rove is running a brilliant campaign and the Rats are overplaying their hand as usual. This will all come back to bite them in the hiney. You just watch. TO VICTORY!!!!


50 posted on 05/14/2004 4:55:58 PM PDT by cold_daknight
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To: oceanview

Republicans amuse most people read Newsmax and/or listen to Sean Hannity on a regular basis. However most people have never heard of the various conservative news outlets.


51 posted on 05/14/2004 4:56:17 PM PDT by Kuksool
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Zogby must be licking his chops...

With another four months to go before the election, there's time enough for at least four more hearings at which to lynch President Bush, OR at the very least, reduce his "approval" rating to minus 10.

52 posted on 05/14/2004 4:56:21 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: sinkspur

If not for Iraq, Bush would now have about a 55% approval rating, and he'd be 10 points ahead of Kerry.

The situation in Iraq seems to be cooling down right now, but this has been last in all the prison-abuse uproar. Fewer casualties this month and Fallujah and Karbala are much quieter. If the situation continues to improve, Bush should have no problem whatsoever being re-elected.

Unfortunately, Kerry's terrorist allies know this.


53 posted on 05/14/2004 4:57:51 PM PDT by nailspitter
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To: oceanview
Just look at the polls and you will soon discover that the American public is fickle and has a very short interest span. In two weeks people most voters won't even remember the abuses and will be arguing over who won American Idol. Right now there is more interest in the last Survivor show then in the news.

Now would not be a productive time to waste campaign money. They are going to need it far more in the days ahead.

54 posted on 05/14/2004 5:00:19 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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Ed Negrin discusses his trucks' red, white and blue design theme with Air Force Master Sgt. Cassandra White and Army Master Sgt. Bruce Allen May 14 in the Pentagon's center courtyard. Negrin and his wife, Tonie, were at the Pentagon with two of their decorated trucks to show support for U.S. service members. The trucks feature photos of service members, as well as Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld; Army Gen. John Abizaid, head of U.S. Central Command; other military leaders and President Bush. Photo by Gerry J. Gilmore

55 posted on 05/14/2004 5:08:46 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Diogenesis

Actually, since Zogby lumps fair in with bad, a 42% approval rating really means Bush is pretty close to 50%. That's not bad at all, considering the press frenzy lately. Once this dies down, and it will, and when and if Iraq quiets down just a little, Bush will bounce back.


56 posted on 05/14/2004 5:09:20 PM PDT by nailspitter
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To: CWOJackson
They are the enemy within our own ranks.

You've got that right. In fact I think that they play on the same team; just different positions.

57 posted on 05/14/2004 5:09:21 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Have you ever noticed how some of the more prolific Bush-bashers keep normal business hours?

Either they wasting their employers time, or this is their job.

58 posted on 05/14/2004 5:11:03 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: sinkspur
The economy has been defined. Recently polling from a number of different sources claim 2 things. 1. They don't like how GWB has handled the economy and 2. Many believe we are STILL in a recession!! (how in the hell can this be?? We have been out of a recession since the last Qtr of 2001....yet the economy has been defined as continually in a recession. Period....and the GWB camp never responded.

Secondly, people not liking Kerry is mute. Incumbents win or lose based in the public as the perception that they want "the man in office back".....regardless of the opponent.....The public didn't vote Bill Clinton into office...they threw out Bush Sr.

59 posted on 05/14/2004 5:12:32 PM PDT by FA14
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To: CWOJackson

they are spending a ton of campaign money alredy on ads against Kerry - which is a good thing, the only good thing going on right now, to get Kerry's negatives up.

It doesn't take any campaign cash to use the bully pulpit and get into the evening news soundbites. Where was Bush on berg's decapitation, expressing outrage? Himself, not through Scott McClellan (who is terrible by the way). Where is Bush os gasoline prices, everyone is talking about it, he is totally detached from the issue.


60 posted on 05/14/2004 5:13:59 PM PDT by oceanview
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