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Can America Survive Same-Sex Marriage?
Toward Tradition ^ | May 14, 2004 | Samuel Silver

Posted on 05/14/2004 5:04:53 PM PDT by Babwa

The critical debate over same-sex marriage is not truly between homosexuals and heterosexuals; it is between two opposing worldviews, one secular and the other religious. On a micro level the victims of same-sex marriage will be our children, but on a macro level, our free society will be the ultimate victim.

Our secular form of government was designed only for a non-secular people.

(Excerpt) Read more at towardtradition.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; marriage; prisoners; samesexmarriage; towardtradition
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Great analysis of why same-sex marriage must be stopped if America is to be saved!
1 posted on 05/14/2004 5:04:53 PM PDT by Babwa
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To: Babwa

Yeah, but the legal profession is chomping at the bit for gay divorce.


2 posted on 05/14/2004 5:09:50 PM PDT by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: blackdog

"gay divorce"

no doubt, the legal cases will be legion . . .

actually, the gays want marriage to undercut, not to support, the institution of marriage . . .


3 posted on 05/14/2004 5:11:57 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: blackdog

actually they are not. Given the high breakup rate for homosexuals and the fact that they are in relationships for less than a two years, there is very little for lawyers to consider. The real issue and bigger payoffs for lawyers in divorce is when children are involved, not an issue with homosexuals, and when there is long term and substantial monies.

A homosexual marriage can be dissolve with a do it yourself kit from office depot.

The real issue for homosexuals, and homosexual lawyers, is the legitimacy that a homosexual divoce degree gives to the marriage.

Lamda legal is going to have cross state divorces in order to impose homosexual marriage recognition on other states.

This is a good time to support and push the FMA. The federal marriage amendment says what marriage IS. The FMA also prohibits any other polygamy, incest, or non-sentient marriage. It is not anti-homosexual, it is pro-children.


4 posted on 05/14/2004 5:16:22 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Babwa
On a much larger scale it will also risk the loss of His blessings on the United States

That's the language of tribal witchdoctors. God's getting angry as my male neighbor is having sex with another man? Is this going to cause an earthquake on my block? Well I better go put a stop to that!
5 posted on 05/14/2004 5:16:41 PM PDT by lelio
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To: AMDG&BVMH
The gay community enjoys the distinction of being the wealthiest demographic group in the nation. Their disposable income is huge.

I just can't wait until a two year gay marriage results in half of one partner's $800,000 401K being split down the middle, their house being sold, marital debt being split, etc.....

Most homosexuals I know want nothing to do with same sex marriage anytime soon. There are other forces behind the curtain pushing the issue.

6 posted on 05/14/2004 5:20:14 PM PDT by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: lelio

"God's getting angry as my male neighbor is having sex with another man? Is this going to cause an earthquake on my block? Well I better go put a stop to that!"I really don't think God will get angry at your neighbors, they're already going to Hell. It's your soul he's worried about.


7 posted on 05/14/2004 5:21:16 PM PDT by justanotherday
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To: little jeremiah
Ping


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

8 posted on 05/14/2004 5:21:49 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: longtermmemmory
Have you see this?

FEDERAL DOMA CHALLENGED IN COURT

10 posted on 05/14/2004 5:23:41 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: longtermmemmory
Not that the heterosexual community has been any great steward or custodian of marriage, but I expect the same sex community to enjoy the same 50% divorce statistic over 20 years.

Your Office Depot theory is bunk. You are assuming that both partners amicably dissolve the marriage with no claim to marital assets?

BWHAAAHHHAAAAA!

11 posted on 05/14/2004 5:24:45 PM PDT by blackdog (I feed the sheep the coyotes eat)
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To: Babwa
"In their imaginary world of subjective reality, if they could just get rid of religion and Judeo-Christian values, they mistakenly believe their utopian fantasies would finally work."

Insanity, complete insanity. Moral decay leads to anarchy which leads to totalitarianism.

12 posted on 05/14/2004 5:27:38 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: longtermmemmory
The real issue and bigger payoffs for lawyers in divorce is when children are involved, not an issue with homosexuals,

Since when? They are already having custody disputes. How about the two women who just split. The genetic mom (whose eggs were inplanted in the partner) lost the kid. Don't say it's not an issue. It certainly is an issue.

13 posted on 05/14/2004 5:31:51 PM PDT by TXBubba (aka TXBubbette)
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To: justanotherday

Well, Sodom was about to be spared if only there were just 10 righteous men in it. Conting the Freepers (I mean the righteous type, like the most on this thread) towards the magic number of 10, I think we are safe.


14 posted on 05/14/2004 5:31:56 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: GSlob

conting=counting. Use the spellcheck next time.


15 posted on 05/14/2004 5:34:57 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: lelio
God will not get "angry as your male neighbor is having sex with another man" as long as he does it in private and does force your children to accept it as "normal" and "moral" by calling it "marriage". The problem is not private homosexuality, but public sanction of it.
16 posted on 05/14/2004 5:35:18 PM PDT by Babwa
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To: AMDG&BVMH

Gay Divorce"....one of the best Fred Astaire/Ginger Rogers movies..


17 posted on 05/14/2004 5:42:56 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: Babwa
Without a moral public culture shared by the majority of "citizens to provide an invisible net of social stability, there is no basis for human cooperation, other than force. Government could not be limited and would have to encroach into every citizen's life and freedom. Instead of a free society of cooperation between individuals, more and more human interaction would have to be decided by the legal system and bureaucrats. Morality would be replaced by legality. Freedom would rapidly morph into tyranny."

We are rapidly heading there!

18 posted on 05/14/2004 5:43:37 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Babwa

I am a Christian, but I don't quite agree with that introductory statement. I do not believe one has to be religious to know the difference between right and wrong.


19 posted on 05/14/2004 5:48:35 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - looks like my kind of article. Are we allowed to sneak a little more of it into the thread?

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

Here's my usual .02 - this is not just Christianity, or Judeo-Christian morality versus atheism/secularism/moral relativism. It is ALL theism versus the etc. God isn't sectarian, and the sooner all people who are faithful to Him regardless of sectarian veiwpoint see each other as brothers in faith, the sooner those who hate Him and His laws will be defeated or at least subdued and put back into the closet. And I don't just mean homosexual rights radicals and their assistants.


20 posted on 05/14/2004 5:49:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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