Looking for info from VietNam Vets

JimVT | 05/15/04 | JimVT

[philetus]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[JLO]

"I'm looking for info on his service record that would support an application for a sabbatical.

Any clues how to get personal info on this great guy who won't tell his story????"



Apparently JimVT, you're not that great a friend of his. Leave him alone. Why do you care to dig up his PERSONAL past, anyway?

If you want to go to www.hadit.com - you'll find many answers that veterans are looking for. But they are a friendy sort - and won't give out personal info about each other.

You should't mess around in someone else's history, in my opinion. Especially from what you wrote and why.

[JLO]

So, how is that relevant? You first mentioned VN.

Seems to me you're off a few years or so...Your post...

I wasn't in direct combat...but I got shot at a few times in Okinawa and Korea (AFTER the big one)


Timeline is way off.

[norton]

Drop it,

He'd rather you just dealt with him as for today.

[by this time, parades mean crap]

[JLO]

You say "Sorry...I don't buy this "nightmare" BS."

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Well, I guess then, you haven't met any of them that do really have PTSD and are disabled by it. It ain't pretty. Learn some more. There are many veterans disabled by post traumatic stress from their service and they deserve respect. Ratings for PTSD are found here, from not being affected, to being totally disabled by their trauma. Don't speak of what you don't know about.

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The GAF is a 100-point tool rating overall psychological, social and occupational functioning of people over 18 years of age and older. It excludes physical and environmental impairment. The GAF is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR) in the section on multi-axial assessments.



100
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91

Superior functioning in a wide range of activities, life’s problems never seem to get out of hand, is sought out by others because of his or her many positive qualities. No symptoms.
90
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81
Absent or minimal symptoms (e.g. mild anxiety before an exam), good functioning in all areas, interested and involved in a wide range of activities, socially effective, generally satisfied with life, no more than everyday problems or concerns (e.g., an occasional argument with family members).
80
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71
If symptoms are present, they are transient and expectable reactions to psychosocial stressors (e.g., difficulty concentrating after family argument); no more than slight impairment in social, occupational, or school functioning (e.g., temporarily falling behind in schoolwork).
70
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61
Some mild symptoms (e.g., depressed mood and mild insomnia) OR some difficulty in social, occupational, or school functioning (e.g., occasional truancy, or theft within the household), but generally functioning pretty well, has some meaningful interpersonal relationships.
60
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51
Moderate symptoms (e.g., flat affect and circumstantial speech, occasional panic attacks) OR moderate difficulty in social, occupational, or school functioning (e.g., few friends, conflicts with peers or co-workers).
50
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41
Serious symptoms (e.g., suicidal ideation, severe obsessional rituals, frequent shoplifting) OR any serious impairment in social, occupational, or school functioning (e.g., no friends, unable to keep a job).
40
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31
Some impairment in reality testing or communication (e.g., speech is at times illogical, obscure, or irrelevant) OR major impairment in several areas, such as work or school, family relations, judgment, thinking, or mood (e.g., depressed man avoids friends, neglects family, and is unable to work: child frequently beats up younger children, is defiant at home, and is failing at school).
30
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21
Behavior is considerably influenced by delusions or hallucinations OR serious impairment in communication or judgment (e.g., sometimes incoherent, acts grossly inappropriately, suicidal preoccupation) OR inability to function in almost all areas (e.g., stays in bed all day; no job, home, or friends).
20
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11
Some danger of hurting self or others (e.g., suicide attempts without clear expectation of death, frequently violent; manic excitement) OR occasionally fails to maintain minimal personal hygiene (e.g., smears feces) OR gross impairment in communication (e.g., largely incoherent or mute.
10
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1
Persistent danger of severely hurting self or others (e.g., recurrent violence) OR persistent inability to maintain minimal personal hygiene OR serious suicidal act with clear expectation of death.
0 Inadequate information.

[JLO]

After looking at your home page, just wondering...did you ever serve?

A quote from your home page "“You can sleep well at night because rough men are willing to commit violent acts on your behalf.” —George Orwell"

Maybe the 'rough men' did serve, and now suffer from their nightmares, which you negate. Maybe the rough men aren't the people YOU know, ie 'All the former SF people I know are Lawyers, M.D.'s, Phd's, etc. "

Nah, they're just normal guys who served honorably.

[Gamecock]

OK, try this:

Most warriors don't want to talk about what they have done. The more talkative they are, the more I doubt their stories.

The fact that he is quiet about it supports my opinion that he was probably a stud.

[I got the rope]

4 years, 13F, 1st Cav

What are you rambling about? My point was that they were all well adjusted. Everyone has things they don't want to share for some reason or another.
I was suggesting that the poster drop it...what do you suggest?

[I got the rope]

As a matter of fact...

I'm only 32. I have two MOS's, and I am seriously considering to re-up. Everytime I see some P_ssy on TV gripe about the military or I hear about some coward running to Canada it makes me want to puke.

I know I shouldn't let it bother me (recruitment is high and so is reenlistment). I just know that I'm still young enough to serve and I feel that I could do more than just Freep.

[JLO]

Sorry if I seemed rambling. My point was about veterans who served. Honorably, now disabled. Mentally disabled.

Forgotten vets.

I mean Vietnam veterans, because those are who I know and love.

But, it will trickle down years later, to others I'd bet who served more recently, I'm afraid. I hope the VA does a better job years from now, than they do currently. I mean for instance: it's been more than a year, and the VA still can't diagnose my partner beyond his 100% PTSD. He still can't walk. Back to the VA soon. No good prognosis.

(PTSD is mental.)

Best to you all who serve our USA.

Please excuse my mis-post or mis-anything else that some may misinterpret.

I couldn't be more proud of our service members.

[JLO]

My suggestion, early on, too - drop it.

[JLO]

I have a 49-year old friend, who just returned from Iraq.


Pretty sharp guy.

He can steer me out in the northwoods, any old day. And he has. Common sense. Trustworthy.