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Saddams Own Torture Videos -- And Some Other Important Info On Saddam's Atrocities(warning-GRAPHIC)
Multiple | 5-16-04

Posted on 05/16/2004 8:23:25 AM PDT by jmstein7

When the "prisoner abuse" media-sponsored hit on the president broke, I remembered, in the back of my mind, having seen videos of what torture in was like under Saddam.  It figured, I though, that the mainstream media found pictures of U.S. MPs making Iraqis wear underwear on their heads was more gruesome than Saddam throwing prisoners, head first, off buildings.

Anyway, I just discovered that some new videos of Saddam's own brand of torture are going to be revealed.  These are supposed to be much worse than what we have already seen.  But, I figured I'd see if I could dig up the ones that have already surfaced, but that the media has suppressed.  If you have not already seen these, I highly suggest watching:

Click .  If you have trouble starting it with that link, go to the FNC page here and the video is there.  The link to the video is mid-way down the page, and the actual video starts after a short Fox promo.

For more info on Saddam's brand of torture, check out this story.

Also, I have put aside a declassified British Dossier on Saddam's torture methods.  It is quite grisly, and you can download it here.

I also found two of Uday's torture "home videos" floating around.  The files are a little large (~7megs), but you can get them here and here.

If it weren't such a serious matter, Kennedy's and Levin's mock outrage at our MPs would be laughable. 

This posting should provide some much-needed perspective.

***  Warning: Most Material Linked to Herein Is GRAPHIC ***

 

(PS  I'm finished with finals.  Thank you all for your prayers!)


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KEYWORDS: dictatorship; doublestandard; humanrights; iraq; iraqpowphotos; iraqundersaddam; murder; saddam; saddamhussein; stalinist; torture; whywefight; zionist
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It is vitally important to get all of this material out to the public.
1 posted on 05/16/2004 8:23:26 AM PDT by jmstein7
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To: Mich0127; RightRules; MeekOneGOP; Peach; onyx; backhoe; Mia T; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ...

BUMP!


2 posted on 05/16/2004 8:25:52 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: jmstein7
Well did Saddam make sure his prisoners get a good nights sleep / sarcasm >
3 posted on 05/16/2004 8:25:52 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: jmstein7

Yes,it is Vitally important to get this out to the public!Don't be surprised if The Majors balk at this.Showing the obvious disparity with the"Outrages"committed by a few handfuls of MPs,and illustrating TRULY outrageous and sadistic behavior at the hands of Saddam and his henchmen is not in their PLAYBOOK!!!!Don't hold your breath!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 05/16/2004 8:28:57 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: jmstein7

I'm glad you posted a warning - I just can't go there.

Thanks for all you do on this site - you're a national treasure.


5 posted on 05/16/2004 8:29:25 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Mo1

If you listen to THE RATS,Saddam even got HBO for his prisoners so they could watch "The Sopranos"!


6 posted on 05/16/2004 8:30:13 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Peach; PhiKapMom

Now, if only the Bush campaign would hire me... I could *guarantee* them a landslide.

:)


7 posted on 05/16/2004 8:31:06 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: jmstein7

BTT


8 posted on 05/16/2004 8:32:16 AM PDT by mel
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To: Peach; PhiKapMom; Hillary's Lovely Legs

Now, if only the Bush campaign would hire me... I could *guarantee* them a landslide.

:)


9 posted on 05/16/2004 8:32:31 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: bandleader

Here's a question ... Have the Rats viewed those pictures and video's????


10 posted on 05/16/2004 8:34:17 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: A. Pole; Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

FYI


11 posted on 05/16/2004 8:34:52 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: jmstein7
Beating the soles of their feet...chopping off fingers one by one. Big deal. At least they didn't put dog collars arounfd their necks and humiliate them by stripping off their clothes.

/sarcasm
12 posted on 05/16/2004 8:36:10 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Liberalism is the end result of too many people peeing in the gene pool.)
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To: jmstein7

Thank you for all your great work, jmstein7.


13 posted on 05/16/2004 8:39:35 AM PDT by syriacus (Ted Kennedy-did you criticize Clinton and Reno's attack on Waco which resulted in children's deaths?)
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To: jmstein7

Were the victims humiliated?


14 posted on 05/16/2004 8:41:36 AM PDT by shetlan ("The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity."--G. W. Bush)
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To: jmstein7
This posting should provide some much-needed perspective.

Have we sunk so low as to use this kind of relativism to defend ourselves? I expect that from weasel Rats, but not from people with honor. I'm with Lindsey Graham.

15 posted on 05/16/2004 8:42:35 AM PDT by LandOfLincolnGOP
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To: jmstein7

However, the pictures of 9-11 including those jumping from the Twin Towers are simply too graphic and might be used to seek political advantage by the VRWC. Besides, we know that there is no connection between Iraq and OBL.


16 posted on 05/16/2004 8:42:45 AM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: shetlan
Were they given blanket's to keep them warm?

Those are the things the liberals are really worried about

17 posted on 05/16/2004 8:43:27 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: jmstein7

Thanks. I have download the Uday videos and put them on Kazaa. Do you know how to rip the Fox one out of the web site into a file?

To anyone: Ping me if you have any others. Here is my Kazaa War and Aviation directory. Please no questions about how to get onto Kazaa...use google.



19/01/2004 01:50 579,588 A-10 - cluster bombing.mpg
18/01/2004 00:38 546,820 A-10 - dropping BSU-49s.mpg
18/01/2004 00:59 13,361,156 A-10.mpg
07/12/2002 17:46 37,101,568 AC130 Gunship - Afghanistan.avi
17/01/2004 03:04 11,973,914 AC130 Hercules Gunship demo.mpg
06/02/2004 00:40 5,226,393 Aviation Crash - NASA Boeing 707.mpg
18/01/2004 00:32 1,081,196 B-52 - crash.mpg
06/02/2004 00:28 911,976 Boeing 747 Extreme Landing.mpg
06/02/2004 06:37 753,670 Bomb Explosion Test in Boeing - Lockerbie Investigation.mpg
18/01/2004 00:42 3,418,128 C-130 - rocket assisted landing - accident.mpg
20/01/2004 01:25 1,226,496 Checnya - Russian execution - beheading full version.asf
19/01/2004 01:17 6,781,651 Daniel Pearl Execution Video.wmv
16/05/2004 16:42 0 dir.txt
06/02/2004 00:36 1,006,292 Disturbing - Boeing Misses Runway.mpg
18/01/2004 22:52 42,670,964 F15 - trailer.mpg
17/01/2004 08:15 91,609,756 Grouchy Media - Bomb Saddam - SVCD.mpg
17/01/2004 08:21 59,201,576 Grouchy Media - Die Terrorists Die - SVCD.mpg
13/01/2004 07:15 77,765,688 Grouchy Media - Hero - SVCD.mpg
16/03/2004 19:10 47,825,596 Grouchy Media - Iraqi Freedom - SVCD.mpg
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18/01/2004 22:46 25,449,084 Grouchy Media - Taliban Bodies - special edition.mpg
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18/01/2004 00:42 2,786,476 Hercules - dropping flares.mpg
10/01/2004 23:10 10,649,604 Iraq (probable) - Apache helicopter in the dust.mpg
19/01/2004 00:54 12,614,220 Iraq - Apache Toasting Terrorists.avi
11/05/2004 22:08 5,566,007 Iraq - Berg Beheading.wmv
18/01/2004 07:05 2,941,376 Iraq - British Tornadoes Bombing.mpg
19/01/2004 00:48 4,329,128 Iraq - Bunker Busting.avi
07/03/2004 17:01 10,227,712 Iraq - Downed U.S. Apache Helicopter.avi
19/01/2004 00:48 4,645,766 Iraq - Hand Amputation (Poor Quality).avi
25/02/2004 17:40 1,994,896 Iraq - huge copter formation.wmv
19/01/2004 01:07 6,415,425 Iraq - Iraqi Propaganda inc Parade Ground.wmv
19/01/2004 01:23 7,506,520 Iraq - Saddam Portrait Destruction.mpg
19/01/2004 02:11 77,326,540 Iraq - Shock And Awe (CNN).mpg
19/01/2004 11:17 4,596,017 Iraq - Shock And Awe (Fox).wmv
19/01/2004 00:53 1,634,321 Iraq - Tank Destroyed.mpg
16/05/2004 16:35 6,935,812 Iraq - Uday1.mpeg
16/05/2004 16:36 8,460,806 Iraq - Uday2.mpeg
27/10/2003 20:43 4,374,396 Javelin Anti-Tank Missile Test.mpg
18/01/2004 00:32 1,351,236 Jet breaking sound barrier.mpg
07/02/2004 02:03 3,238,146 Military Helicopter - Inflight Refueling Mishap.mpg
18/01/2004 00:00 11,919,796 MOAB bomb test.mpg
07/05/2004 20:37 2,783,240 MTHEL Laser Shooting Down Katyusha - MRSmedres.avi
06/02/2004 23:19 3,716,192 Osprey - V22 Crash during testing.avi
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18/01/2004 00:51 3,740,257 SR-71 - Take off.mpg
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18/01/2004 22:32 7,096,324 Taliban - Execution Of Woman (CNN).mpg
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18/01/2004 22:18 1,170,440 Taliban - Helicopter hit with guided missle.mpg
18/01/2004 22:15 1,204,200 Taliban - Penis Amputation (possibly fake).mpg
21/01/2004 01:03 1,747,898 Taliban - public beheading.mpg
18/01/2004 00:56 22,577,156 The United States Air Force.mpg
18/01/2004 09:41 717,169 Vietnam - Execution.mpg
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18 posted on 05/16/2004 8:44:14 AM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: jmstein7

Thanks for the post (don't know if I'll actually look). Glad your exams are finished. Hope you aced 'em!


19 posted on 05/16/2004 8:44:42 AM PDT by no more apples (God Bless our troops)
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To: reagan_fanatic; Peach; PhiKapMom; Hillary's Lovely Legs; All
IMHO, the President could put a stop to this "Prisoner Abuse" hit story quite easily.  The solution is to go on the air, say that he's tired of the media demeaning the men and women of the armed forces, and that he wants to show Americans what REAL torture is.  Then he could play the videos they have, like these, for all Americans to see via an Oval Office feed.  That would give the media a black eye and put an immediate stop to all of this.  Also, the credibility of the media would be almost irreparably damaged.  For a coup du grace, the President could ask the MEDIA to apologize for their assault on the men and women giving their lives to defend our country.

The President can reach the masses over the heads of the media -- he has the means, and he has the bully pulpit.  It is high time he starts using it.  The new tone is dead -- the country is OVER if Kerry wins.  It is high time Bush stops playing nice and puts the good of the country (i.e. his re-election) over his high-minded, "play nice" attitude.

20 posted on 05/16/2004 8:44:50 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: shetlan
Were the victims humiliated?

Nothing could be more humiliating than being pictured with a butch Lynndie England.

21 posted on 05/16/2004 8:45:04 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: alnitak

bttt


22 posted on 05/16/2004 8:46:37 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: jmstein7

They probably will not air the HORRIBLY, INHUMAN, BARBARIC, TORTUROUS act of SADDAM making them parade around in panties, masturbating, and piling on one another naked. Oh the humanity!!


23 posted on 05/16/2004 8:46:48 AM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: All

BUMP!


24 posted on 05/16/2004 8:57:01 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: jmstein7

Bump for later


25 posted on 05/16/2004 9:02:40 AM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: jmstein7

And THIS is the CRAP CNN HID from all of us....

BUT THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM SHOWING IT NOW...WITH LAUGHTER AND GLEE

I HATE CNN...THEY ARE DISGUSTING WAR CRIMINALS


26 posted on 05/16/2004 9:05:18 AM PDT by Cheetah1
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To: Mo1

I wouldn' think so.The Rats and The Majors will be in agreement that these pictures of REAL ATROCITIES would upset our gentle souls were we(in fly-over country)to view same!!Either that,or they will go to great lengths to draw SPECIOUS analogies between what a couple of handfuls of MPs did and what Saddam and his HENCHMEN did as routine!!!Pardon my cynicism!!!!I nurtured it for the eight-years of The BeelzeBubba hi-jinx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 05/16/2004 9:07:28 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: PISANO
They probably will not air the HORRIBLY, INHUMAN, BARBARIC, TORTUROUS act of SADDAM making them parade around in panties, masturbating, and piling on one another naked. Oh the humanity!!

Saddam is compassionate enough to just let them die a horribly long and painful death with their loved ones to boot.

He would never stoop so low into the abyss of hell to conjure up such an atrocity as humiliation.

Guess the tyrant wasn't such a bad guy after all.../sarcasm

28 posted on 05/16/2004 9:08:09 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: shetlan

Very Good?Were you a member of The Clinton PC travesty?(I know you're kidding)!!


29 posted on 05/16/2004 9:09:06 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: alnitak

wow..so you're into snuff videos eh? Methinks that is only a stones throw from kp, which I sincerely hope you do not delve into, as you have with these.


30 posted on 05/16/2004 9:13:57 AM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: jmstein7

Definitely.


31 posted on 05/16/2004 9:14:11 AM PDT by Peach
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To: jmstein7

I know it.

Also, the president needs to talk more often about the direct links between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, who AT LEAST knew 9/11 was coming.

less than two months before 9/11/01, the state-controlled Iraqi newspaper “Al-Nasiriya” carried a column headlined, “American, an Obsession called Osama Bin Ladin.” (July 21, 2001)

In the piece, Baath Party writer Naeem Abd Muhalhal predicted that bin Laden would attack the US “with the seriousness of the Bedouin of the desert about the way he will try to bomb the Pentagon after he destroys the White House.”

The same state-approved column also insisted that bin Laden “will strike America on the arm that is already hurting,” and that the US “will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs” – an apparent reference to the Sinatra classic, “New York, New York”.

Other direct links between Saddam and OBL are here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1127451/posts


32 posted on 05/16/2004 9:16:23 AM PDT by Peach
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To: jmstein7

BTTT!!!!!


33 posted on 05/16/2004 9:18:47 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: jmstein7

This is what Kennedy has said we are equal to.


34 posted on 05/16/2004 9:18:57 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Hey, I wouldn't touch Camryn Manheim's uterus on a bet.)
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To: jmstein7

Bump for later


35 posted on 05/16/2004 9:21:39 AM PDT by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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To: jmstein7

Glad that ole' Uday and Qusay are decomposing now......


36 posted on 05/16/2004 9:25:56 AM PDT by b4its2late (Liberals are good examples of why some animals eat their young.)
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To: jmstein7

Yes it is important to get this out. Maybe Fox would do a story on it. The rest of them will still be too busy going gaga over Lynndie does Baghdad.

Thanks for the ping! Let us know how you did on the finals :-)


37 posted on 05/16/2004 9:26:13 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: All
HERE is another one for you to take a look at:

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm

38 posted on 05/16/2004 9:27:12 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: jmstein7; nuconvert

FYI


39 posted on 05/16/2004 9:32:18 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: jmstein7

You mean Sadam and his merry men didn't tuck their prisoners in at bed time and give them tea and scones as it appears our guys are going to have to do?


40 posted on 05/16/2004 9:38:38 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: jmstein7

Bookmarked and bumped.


41 posted on 05/16/2004 9:42:31 AM PDT by Rocko (Michael Moore: "Dude, I'm a hypocrite.")
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To: LandOfLincolnGOP

This isn't relativism, this is what was going on before we invaded and kicked Saddam out of his palaces.

The two are separate but how soon we forget how noble our cause is. I tried to watch one video of one of the sons beating soldiers I assume...Just the screams were too much for me.

Here in Texas we are providing 7 Iraqi businessmen with prosthetic hands to replace the right hands that Saddam had severed because he blamed them for the economy slumping. We also are providing plastic surgery to remove the mark of shame carved into their faces.


42 posted on 05/16/2004 9:46:04 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: jmstein7

I'm downloading the last video now. The Iraqi detainees must be laughing themselves sick at us. We need to step it up, not sing nursery rhymes to them :-(


43 posted on 05/16/2004 9:50:45 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: jmstein7
(PS I'm finished with finals. Thank you all for your prayers!)

The steel for the finest swords is thrust into the fire 1,000 times.

But now it's time for beer, and lots of it. CONGRATS!

44 posted on 05/16/2004 9:59:35 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Mo1

Ted Kennedy needs to be publicly humiliated for his outrageous comments equating our military with Saddam Hussein. How sad that those profiles in courage "Republicans" in the Senate haven't taken to the Senate floor to lambast that drunk, murdering a$$hole from Massachussetts.


45 posted on 05/16/2004 10:10:17 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: jmstein7
The President can reach the masses over the heads of the media -- he has the means, and he has the bully pulpit......but unfortunately does not have the will...~sigh
46 posted on 05/16/2004 10:16:39 AM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: jmstein7

Your finals are finished - Halleluiah! I will mark this thread JM, but I have to admit that I will not watch them, the stills are enough to sicken me. The poor people. I will pray that the Iraqi people's hearts will open to Christ and hear his voice that they may know the truth and be saved.


47 posted on 05/16/2004 10:28:49 AM PDT by Libertina (This Tagline contains adult content and has been relocated to the Smokey Back Room.)
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To: jmstein7
Islamic Stone-age Baseball in a land
with no lawyers.

Can this type of Islamic punishment
ripple into America Law?


Read All About Islamic law, or Sharia in CANADA!

Canadian judges soon will be enforcing Islamic law, or Sharia, in disputes between Muslims, possibly paving the way to one day administering criminal sentences, such as stoning women caught in adultery.

48 posted on 05/16/2004 10:39:09 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: jmstein7

Send everything to Hannity, Rush, et al, and president@whitehouse.gov my guess is that Hannity will support posting to his website. We've got nothing to lose but the election...


49 posted on 05/16/2004 10:39:36 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: MamaLucci
Ted Kennedy needs to be publicly humiliated for his outrageous comments equating our military with Saddam Hussein

I agree .. Kennedy is WAY over the line with the comments he's been saying

There have a been a few Republicans that have spoken up .. but they need to be much louder

50 posted on 05/16/2004 10:41:34 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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