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Same-Sex Marriage Is Just the Beginning, Conservatives Warn
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 6/18/04 | Susan Jones

Posted on 05/18/2004 5:18:43 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - The same-sex marriages taking place in Massachusetts can happen in other states, too - even states that bar homosexual "marriage," some lawmakers and conservative groups are warning their constituents.

"Many North Carolinians are under the impression that what's happening in Massachusetts has no relevance to them because North Carolina passed legislation prohibiting homosexual marriage," said Rep. Walter B. Jones (R-N.C.) in a press release issued Monday. "Unfortunately, this couldn't be farther from the truth," Jones said.

Jones said liberal activists have made it clear they will use the Massachusetts court ruling legalizing same-sex marriage to "overthrow" the North Carolina Defense of Marriage Act, and to "force gay and lesbian marriage on our state."

In a press release, Jones noted that the activists' game plan is simple -- requiring one same-sex couple to get married in Massachusetts - then come to N.C. and sue to have the marriage recognized there.

"All it takes is one liberal judge to rule in their favor, and our state will be forced to allow gay marriage," Jones warned.

Jones said the only way to prevent such a scenario is to pass an amendment to the U.S. Constitution protecting each state's right to define marriage as being the union of one man and one woman only.

Jones, an original co-sponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, is among the 118 House Members who support the amendment. But more co-sponsors are needed, he said, and only public pressure will generate that additional support.

"If we fail to act, the will of the people may again be tossed aside by a non-elected judge who places his personal ideology and politics before the law."

'Churches will be muted'


Lawmakers who support the Federal Marriage Amendment were holding a press conference Tuesday morning to rally support for the amendment.

"Regardless of whether a Defense of Marriage Act is on the books, marriage can no longer be protected at the state level against activist judges," said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, which is organizing Tuesday's press conference.

Perkins said it's just a matter of days until the "natural and legal definition of marriage will be attacked through lawsuits filed by homosexual couples seeking recognition for their Massachusetts' 'marriages' in every other state in the union."

Perkins, in a press release, warned that this fight goes well beyond marriage rights.

"If we do not immediately pass a Constitutional Amendment protecting marriage, we will not only lose the institution of marriage in our nation, but eventually all critics of the homosexual lifestyle will be silenced," Perkins said.

"Churches will be muted, schools will be forced to promote homosexuality as a consequence-free alternative lifestyle, and our nation will find itself embroiled in a cultural, legal, and moral quagmire," he said.

Dr. James Dobson, chairman of Focus on the Family, agreed that "gay marriage is only the beginning" of the effort to disguise a liberal agenda as the rule of law.

"Saying there's a constitutional guarantee for two homosexuals to marry is just a few steps away from saying there's a constitutional guarantee to marry more than one person, or for relatives to marry, or even for people to marry their pets," Dobson said in a press release.

However, Dobson does see a silver lining in Monday's events: "Millions of Americans might finally be ready to say, 'Enough is enough,'" he said.

Dobson called passage of a Federal Marriage Amendment "our last, best chance to preserve marriage for future generations."

 

 



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: drdobson; homosexualagenda; jamesdobson; marriage; marriageamendment; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; prisoners; samesexmarriage; slipperyslope; unhelpful; walterjones
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1 posted on 05/18/2004 5:18:44 AM PDT by kattracks
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2 posted on 05/18/2004 5:20:04 AM PDT by counterpunch (<-CLICK HERE for my CARTOONS)
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To: counterpunch

Hilarious photo job. However, you know that old Kennedy would never play the role of the catamite. He likes to stay on top of things ... especially water.


3 posted on 05/18/2004 5:32:39 AM PDT by Agnes Heep (Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster)
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To: kattracks

Welcome to the fall of Rome.


5 posted on 05/18/2004 5:42:35 AM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: counterpunch

Awsome picture....wish I could frame it!


6 posted on 05/18/2004 5:45:05 AM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: *Old_North_State; **North_Carolina; mykdsmom; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; ...
"Many North Carolinians are under the impression that what's happening in Massachusetts has no relevance to them because North Carolina passed legislation prohibiting homosexual marriage," said Rep. Walter B. Jones (R-N.C.) in a press release issued Monday. "Unfortunately, this couldn't be farther from the truth," Jones said.


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7 posted on 05/18/2004 5:49:31 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day

I think they should have to pass a blood test.


8 posted on 05/18/2004 5:54:52 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: kattracks
I agree!

Next will come the polygamist. The polygamist already have their lawsuits typed ready for filing. The pedophiles will now begin to have the laws against sex between adults and children overturned [thanks to Lawrence v. Texas, they are half way there]. The people who practice bestiality are waiting in the wings. As the saying goes, "You ain't seen nothing yet!" The genie is out of the bottle and he ain't going back in.
9 posted on 05/18/2004 5:56:52 AM PDT by sport
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To: kattracks

What about homosexual adoption? What will stop a couple of homo's from adopting a house full of boys, or a couple of lezzy's adopting a house full of girls?


10 posted on 05/18/2004 5:58:35 AM PDT by ColoradoSlim (Historical revisionism for fun, profit , peace and a new world order)
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To: Overtaxed

Great idea!!


12 posted on 05/18/2004 5:59:36 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: kattracks

Any logic used to support homosexual "marriage" can't be logically restricted to "two" or to "persons".

If two men can "marry" or two women can "marry" then two or more of anything can "marry".

I heard one of the lesbians exclaiming on NPR, "Now we're just like anybody else !"

Exclaiming I'm the King of Romania won't make me so.


13 posted on 05/18/2004 6:00:41 AM PDT by jimt
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To: Constitution Day

..and then we can tax 'em. Yeah...the newest sin tax. Democrats ought to go for that!


14 posted on 05/18/2004 6:01:21 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: TonyRo76
Just a year or so ago, nobody imagined the butt-bandits would make it this far, this fast.

Well, it's not like we didn't see it coming. Although only abour 3% of the population, the gays have come out in force if you will, and are vocal. On the other hand about 90% of the straight population are silent.

When good people do nothing bad things happen. Unless the sheeple wake from their slumbers it will continue with everything from higher taxes to gun confiscations. The socialists are out to do one thing and that is to destroy the good of this country. So far they have made incredible gains.


15 posted on 05/18/2004 6:06:05 AM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: ColoradoSlim
Already happening. Even in places like Kentucky, where I was acquainted with gay couples raising children, both male couples and female couples (back in my previous life as a liberal denomination church-goer). For several years, it has been said America is in a "gayby boom".
16 posted on 05/18/2004 6:06:22 AM PDT by megatherium (waiting for the Pontiac Solstice to appear)
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To: kattracks
Once some of them face the issues of Comingling assets, community property and alimony, 'Gay Marriage' will become so rare it will be insignificant.

So9

17 posted on 05/18/2004 6:09:26 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: kattracks
I don't see how polygamy can be far behind--it has more tradition behind it than homosexual marriage.

"Hi, Honey, I'm home! And guess what, sweetie--we have a new wife. Meet Suzie--I married her today. What? You don't like this threesome? Well, you can always get a divorce. Of course--this means that the marital property will now be split three ways."

18 posted on 05/18/2004 6:13:59 AM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-neo conservatism)
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To: kattracks

Four godless antiAmerican Judges in Mass.seeking to turn
the ship around have granted "standing" to those whose intent is to overthrow the Federal DOMA in the same arena
that has granted these enemy nearly every victory since
the Stonewall Inn riots,1969.The silence and aversion by
otherwise well meaning so called Christians is the greatest
weakness. We have brought this judgmeent upon ourselves by
tolerance of that divisive "Wall of separation"erected back
in 1947 to chase God from the political house erected by
Dr.Franklin and his delegated peers.1787-1791 when the
US COnstitution and Bill of rights were ratified.


19 posted on 05/18/2004 6:15:35 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: kattracks
The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Everyone run!

I find it difficult to take fear mongering press releases like this seriously.

20 posted on 05/18/2004 6:22:27 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: counterpunch
It's just gonna be one big love fest during the Dem convention in Massachusetts this summer!

We should continue to remind people of the of the tight association between gays and Democrats every chance we get. Mainstream America needs to be reminded of this connection as often as possible: Boston, Dems, gays, Kerry.

22 posted on 05/18/2004 6:34:50 AM PDT by wai-ming
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To: megatherium
Those kids are going to a lot of issues when they grow up. Tomorrows freaks, deviates, ultra liberals, suicide victims and mass murders today.
24 posted on 05/18/2004 6:37:14 AM PDT by ColoradoSlim (Historical revisionism for fun, profit , peace and a new world order)
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To: take

Good Lord! It seams like a lot of those goals have already been realized. Are you saying the communists won? Is it too late to do anything?


25 posted on 05/18/2004 6:40:44 AM PDT by ColoradoSlim (Historical revisionism for fun, profit , peace and a new world order)
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To: TonyRo76
I fear for our country :(

And this just started?

26 posted on 05/18/2004 6:40:47 AM PDT by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: bmwcyle

"Welcome to the fall of Rome"

This may actually cause the fall of public education. I can see many parents home school or put their children in private schools if this goes much further.


27 posted on 05/18/2004 6:43:04 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Put down that fiddle and DO SOMETHING!")
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To: unixfox
On the other hand about 90% of the straight population are silent.

I'm afraid it's worse than that. A significant percentage of straight people support it. It makes them feel,,,,so accepting. They are so enlightened and progressive. Their numbers are legion.

28 posted on 05/18/2004 6:45:02 AM PDT by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: take

Communist Goals: Fascinating.

Did they have a timeline?


31 posted on 05/18/2004 6:52:56 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Keep your kids safe; keep W in the White House.)
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To: ColoradoSlim; take
It's a bit misleading to say this list is "from the Congressional Record". It is not an official pronouncement of Congress, but was read into the Congressional Record from the book The Naked Communist by W. Cleon Skousen.

Where did he come up with this list? Most likely his own conjecture.

35 posted on 05/18/2004 7:00:26 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: TonyRo76
I've been fearful for years of what the Left would do to our Republic if they could

I agree, but I would add that the Right is complicit on many issues.

Control is the objective, and freedom is the obstacle.

36 posted on 05/18/2004 7:03:45 AM PDT by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: TonyRo76
I just wrote a new tag-line in that last post. :^}
37 posted on 05/18/2004 7:07:44 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective and freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: Protagoras
I'm afraid it's worse than that. A significant percentage of straight people support it. It makes them feel,,,,so accepting.

I think that's quite speculative and quite wrong in many cases. The issue of same sex marriage rates a big "So what?" with me, and it has nothing to do with any self-delusion that I'm more "accepting". I simply can't think of how it possibly affects me or anyone else who is straight, other than whatever mental anguish someone allows themselves to wallow in.

I support individual liberty so long as no one is harming someone else. Same sex marriage doesn't cross that threshold.

38 posted on 05/18/2004 7:07:56 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

Well, here is GLSEN's plan for transforming the public schools:

http://www.newswithviews.com/NWVexclusive/exclusive16.htm

The only way for parents of public school students to protect their kids from this is for parents to be aware of the health risks, and let GLSEN and school officials know that they are very aware of the health risks and don't want this lifestyle foisted on their kids. This could end public education in this country. School administrators might want to consider that if they want to keep their jobs.


40 posted on 05/18/2004 7:10:49 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: tdadams
Same sex marriage doesn't cross that threshold.

Wait til it does my friend. Follow the money. Sooner or later it will lead to your pocket.

There is no such thing as marriage between anything except a male and a female. People are married because of promises made to and before God.

Government involvement is just force being used to favor certain arrangements. And you won't be getting them out of it any time soon, so hang on to your wallet.

42 posted on 05/18/2004 7:13:04 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective and freedom is the obstacle.)
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"Churches will be muted, schools will be forced to promote homosexuality as a consequence-free alternative lifestyle, and our nation will find itself embroiled in a cultural, legal, and moral quagmire," he said.

They'll have to jail me, I guess!

Deacon Francis

LOL...I have a prison ministry, so I'm sort of use to the bars.

43 posted on 05/18/2004 7:16:50 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: kattracks

bumping for later


44 posted on 05/18/2004 7:17:23 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("A sword day! A red day, 'ere the sun rises!")
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To: take

Thanks, but how does that expound on what we already know in this thread?


45 posted on 05/18/2004 7:22:01 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: tdadams
I find it difficult to take fear mongering press releases like this seriously.

Typical and understandable response for a libertarian. Because YOU see no harm in this, you declare it moot. But others DO see GREAT harm to social structure because of this.

46 posted on 05/18/2004 7:23:56 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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Well, I think you know I'm referring to direct harm. By your reasoning, there's not a single person in America I couldn't rationalize is harming me in some way.


47 posted on 05/18/2004 7:24:13 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: tdadams
Well, I think you know I'm referring to direct harm.

Hard to tell what that means.

By your reasoning, there's not a single person in America I couldn't rationalize is harming me in some way.

Nonsense.

48 posted on 05/18/2004 7:28:40 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective and freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: ThomasMore
Typical and understandable response for a libertarian.

Pathetic comment. Do you have anything to add or just commenting to bring your agenda to light?

49 posted on 05/18/2004 7:31:21 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective and freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: tdadams
Now donning flame-proof suit.....

I would like to come out against gay marriage, but I have not heard a convincing argument yet.....other than the moral/biblical questions. There are millions of secular people out there that know it's a bad idea, and are waiting for someone to convincingly articulate why.

Many of my wife's friends are gay. With one exception (this guy totally fits the "gay" stereotype), they seem pretty well-adjusted, hard-working, intelligent people. They're mostly liberal, but that's not a crime. Reasonable men can disagree.

I'm not sure how much more damage can be done to marriage, that hasn't already been done by "quickie, no-fault" divorce laws. I feel that it's hard to take the high ground when spouses are already looked at as disposable.

And, speaking for my own marriage, it's rock-solid. Gay marriage won't affect it in the least.

50 posted on 05/18/2004 7:34:19 AM PDT by wbill
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