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TORIES TO REVIEW GUN BAN
The London Daily Record ^ | May 13 2004 | NA

Posted on 05/18/2004 10:00:48 AM PDT by neverdem

THE Tories want to ease the law banning handguns passed after the Dunblane massacre.

Conservative home affairs spokesman James Paice said the Tories wanted the law reviewed during a speech in the House of Commons yesterday.

But he denied there was any specific Tory plan to repeal the handgun ban, although the idea had not been ruled out.

He said: 'The Conservative Party are committed to carrying out a review of firearms with a view to consolidation and simplification rather than penalising the lawful sporting user.'

Paice said handgun use had doubled since Labour's 1997 ban.

The Tories are understood to want handguns to be legalised for use in shooting clubs.

Thomas Hamilton, who murdered 16 children and their teacher at Dunblane Primary school in 1994, was a member of a gun club. The four guns he used in the slaughter were legally held.

In March, the Daily Record first revealed the Tories wanted to alter the law after Homeland Security spokesman Patrick Mercer said it was 'nonsense'.

A Labour spokesman said: 'The Tories have no concerns for the feelings of the people of Scotland or the families of the victims of gun crime.'


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guncontrol; gunprohibition
The Tories are unable to address the issue in terms of self defense. How sad it is.
1 posted on 05/18/2004 10:00:49 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: *bang_list

BANG


2 posted on 05/18/2004 10:01:26 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21

It looks like some of the British are starting to get a clue!

Semper Fi


3 posted on 05/18/2004 10:06:11 AM PDT by dd5339 (Happiness is a full VM-II and a DEAD AND BURIED AWB!)
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To: neverdem
IPSC United Kingdom
4 posted on 05/18/2004 10:07:02 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: neverdem
Paice said handgun use had doubled since Labour's 1997 ban.

He must be referring to criminals using them because they're not about to turn theirs in. It's only the law-abiding who suffer when the right to self-defense is denied.

5 posted on 05/18/2004 10:13:02 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: xsrdx
"IPSC United Kingdom"

Thanks for the link. Went there. Interesting. I wish them luck.

6 posted on 05/18/2004 10:15:21 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: elbucko

Must be they rather enjoy being sheep.


7 posted on 05/18/2004 10:18:06 AM PDT by Area51 (RINO Hunter, Big Time.)
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To: neverdem
After 7 years of rampant increase in gun crime, they want to allow 'sporting use' of guns at approved clubs only with strict storage requirements and no provisions for carry, or even for taking the gun home I'll wager.

Oh yeah, that'll have the muggers in a wad. Well it's a start in the right direction I suppose.

8 posted on 05/18/2004 10:29:00 AM PDT by Sender (<a href="http://www.democrats.org/">Miserable Failure</a>)
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To: neverdem
A Labour spokesman said: 'The Tories have no concerns for the feelings of the people of Scotland or the families of the victims of gun crime.'

He continued, "Labour believes that public policy should be formed on the basis of feelings and good intentions rather than on logic, evidence, and sound reasoning. To do otherwise might cause us to be confused with adults."

9 posted on 05/18/2004 10:29:51 AM PDT by Campion
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To: neverdem
Bang!

Paice said handgun use had doubled since Labour's 1997 ban.
The Tories are understood to want handguns to be legalised for use in shooting clubs.
In March, the Daily Record first revealed the Tories wanted to alter the law after Homeland Security spokesman Patrick Mercer said it was 'nonsense'.
A Labour spokesman said: 'The Tories have no concerns for the feelings of the people of Scotland or the families of the victims of gun crime.'

Well there you have it, UK gun control was about "concerns and feelings" and just "nonsense." Sort of like gun control around the world. They need to go a step further and allow for both self defense with deadly force and for use of handguns in places other than gun ranges, but this is a step in the right direction.

10 posted on 05/18/2004 10:32:55 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: Campion

LOL coughing!


11 posted on 05/18/2004 10:36:50 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: xsrdx

Thanks for the interesting link.


12 posted on 05/18/2004 10:37:45 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

I thought it was illegal to talk about guns in Britain.


13 posted on 05/18/2004 10:41:15 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: neverdem
Thomas Hamilton, who murdered 16 children and their teacher at Dunblane Primary school in 1994, was a member of a gun club.

I some how missed this bit of information in "Bowling for Columbine."

14 posted on 05/18/2004 10:43:04 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: gieriscm

Ping for a step towards freedom... no matter how small it may be.


15 posted on 05/18/2004 10:48:53 AM PDT by BCR #226
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To: neverdem
The Brits are perfectly happy with their high crime rate because the murder rate is still low. Burglary and robbery sentences are nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
Here's where I can make a prediction. One of these days, some politicians will increase the penalties for crimes without taking away any of the penalties the homeowners have for protecting themselves.

With long prison sentences a possibility, the average criminal won't be so likely to leave a witness. In a very short time, the murder rates will look like a third world country because the crime element will wish to continue their easy lifestyle.
16 posted on 05/18/2004 10:51:40 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Makes sense.


17 posted on 05/18/2004 11:24:11 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
The Tories are unable to address the issue in terms of self defense.

No chance of that with Michael Howard in charge.

"Gun ownership is a privilege, not a right, and the use of firearms in self-defense is not acceptable for civilians in this country"

(Scroll down for quote)

18 posted on 05/19/2004 11:27:51 PM PDT by TheDivineRightOfLifesScum
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To: TheDivineRightOfLifesScum

Interesting link, may I ask how did you harvest it?


19 posted on 05/19/2004 11:55:01 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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