Gay marrieds say they will not be monogamous

Boston Fishwrap ^ | 5/18/04 | Duncan

[pabianice]

According to today's Boston Herald, here is what the very first recipient of a Provincetown MA same-sex marriage license has to say about marriage:

"[Jonathan Yarbrough] says the concept of forever is 'overrated' and that he, as a bisexual, and [his partner Cody] Rogahn, who is gay, have chosen to enjoy an open marriage. `I think it's possible to love more than one person and have more than one partner, not in the polygamist sense,' he said. `In our case, it is, we have, an open marriage...'"

[Sockdologer]

Okay. What is the point of getting married if you already plan on not being committed?

[fortunecookie]

From what I have read, the homosexuals are getting the three-day waiting period and STD/measles blood test waived, why I cannot fathom.

To rush them through and show a wonderful shining example to our 49 other states so the laws in those states can be changed as quickly as possible and we can have notion of homosexual marriage 'legalized' across the whole nation, sending our example further afield to other countries. (barf)

I wonder how many of those 'couples' would have been denied a license if they had gone through the regular channels and had to wait the three days and submit (oh, the horror) to medical tests. I wonder how many would have failed the tests? And I wonder how many of them had already obtained the health insurance and other legal papers to get themselves fully entrenched in the health and legal systems as legitimate 'couples' prior to even going to the courthouse or prior to hearing the bill legalizing it had passed?

[biblewonk]

What's the point (other than blowing $25 on a piece of paper)?

To diss Christianity.

[EdReform]

FYI - here's another acticle from a different source:

Same-sex couple flaunts 'open marriage'

[biblewonk]

What's the point? To pick your pocket. Insurance benefits, tax breaks, social security benefits, retirement benefits, etc.

And spit in your bible.

[dirtboy]

In our case, it is, we have, an open marriage...'"

Gee, all the gay marriage advocates claimed that it would reduce promiscuity among gays. What gives?

[rj45mis]

"gay's are a biological mistake"

I disagree. They are not a biological mistake, they are depraved individuals

"a detriment to our country"

I agree that they have become a detriment to not only our country but to themselves as well.

[colorado tanker]

And spit in your bible.

True. Can't wait until the lefties and media begin condemning Biblical teaching as hate speech and people approving Biblical teaching on the subject as committing a hate crime. It's inevitable.

[tortoise]

In other news, the majority of heterosexual marriages are adulterous...

[biblewonk]

True. Can't wait until the lefties and media begin condemning Biblical teaching as hate speech and people approving Biblical teaching on the subject as committing a hate crime. It's inevitable.

I think they are already half way done with doing just that in Canada.

[ZULU]

How LONG will we TOLERATE these people???

Those Mosaic Laws are starting to look better and better.

[tiamat]

thackney wrote:


I wonder how many bothered with a pre-nupt?

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I betcha dollars to donuts a bunch of them did! Especially since that culture IS so permiscuous!

[microgood]

"This is what people mean when they say homosexual marriage threatens the sanctity of marriage." Percentage of first marriages that end in divorce in 1997: 50% Percentage of remarriages that end in divorce in 1997: 60%

That means that by the second try, 80% have succeeded. I've always thought the gays attacking heterosexual marriage is a bit deceitful as most people are married most of their adult life, it just takes many two tries.

[darreaver]

i give it about 5 years or less, than every other ((self-censored)) group will want their own say , using the same argument they used. i was born with a natural attraction to (( you can add the word in the space.)) so i should be allowed to do whatever i want with them.

[ezoeni]

point noted - Ill call them sodomites from now on

[GraniteStateConservative]

Bill and Hillary have one!

[usslsm51]

It does seem that it is difficult to take anything away from employees, however it doesn't seem to hard to take the company out of the USA.

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

We keep hearing how homosexuals want committed relationships. I would like them committed to the luney bin. It will eventually come to an Armageddon, a battle of morals with perverts. For a while I was thinking that it would be with the Muslims lunatics, but the homos are making a move while we are distracted with the war. It is too bad that our generation will turn over an overtaxed, over-entitled, and morally bankrupt society to our children. What a mess they will have on their hands.

[fortunecookie]

Homosexuals equate a license with forced societal acceptance of their unions that will gradually be fully accepted. In my opinions homosexual orientation is just one of those things. It's not normal, but I wouldn't use the word aberration. Many of us have something or other wrong with us. It is unfortunate for those who find themselves to be homosexual - their life may well be less fulfilled because of it. I expect such a person to pursue happiness, and couple responsibly.

I agree with you and I have said this myself, but in my haste I did not add that on. But I do think there is a vast difference between the militant you-must-like-and-accept-my-actions variety and the regular person struggling with our own uniquenesses like the rest of us. Just as hetero marriage is threatened, if you will, by those who are routinely unfaithful or have open marriages, so too is a homosexual union threatened by militants who want to marry more to make a point than anything else. Those same homosexual regular folks have their own legitimacy stained by the actions of their militant counterparts. Not that I believe homosexual marriage should be a right or legal, but I see the point of certain legal issues being resolved for long-term couples. And I don't believe that the couples rushed through this week, judging by their own words, are indicative of what many homosexual couples want nor are they treating this 'right' they've fought for with the importance it used to receive and still should. After all, they really need to succeed. If they fall into the same divorce rates and ills as the regular marriages they routinely scorn supposedly have, they are very blatantly contradicting themselves. The very militant have been vilifying 'breeder' divorce rates for some time.

Legal unions or marriages that carry rights and benefits are a completely different animal. I am strongly opposed to that. We need to educate our children about what marriage is really for and why it is a union of one man and one woman.

These are good points. It seems as though we need to educate a lot of people on the importance of marriage and what it is for and what it means to make such a commitment and why it is uniquely suited to one man and one woman. Too few of us are doing that. And a lot of people are doing much to the contrary. I remain concerned for this generation of kids - their understanding of marriage is skewed by the homosexual agenda in schools and the soaring divorce rates among their parents. I think many of us on this forum are doing our part, but it seems inadequate compared to the work of others.

[BaBaStooey]

I've been saying all along that one of the major reasons to oppose gay "marriage" is the fact that documented studies have shown that gay people are more promiscuous and are more likely to have multiple partners than straight people, that an even higher percentage of gay "marriages" would result in divorce than even the current 50-50 rate.

I'm certain that one of the major groups campaigning for gay "marriage" were divorce lawyers. They have just expanded their potential market, and their potential source of income. A slight rise in divorce court costs for us the taxpayers and that's about it.

[Lurking in Kansas]

What's the point (other than blowing $25 on a piece of paper)?

Nope, I'm not going to touch that one.

[cruiserman]

Probably being able to share benefits.

[jimt]

What's the point (other than blowing $25 on a piece of paper)?

Forced (and legally enforced) acceptance by normal people as being "good", "normal", etc., when it clearly isn't.

[Luis Gonzalez]

The point that I've been trying to mak is that we, heterosexuals that is, need to own up to a whole lot of the demage that's already been done to the institution of marriage.

Yes, same-sex marriage is certainly not what God intended, but then again, we do a whole lot of things that God did not intend for us to do either.

[clamper1797]

BTT

[Dr Snide]

would not argue with you on that point. I'm personally in favor of civil unions for all adults including non-religious heterosexuals. I think marriage is and should remain a religious instiutuion free of being tarnished from both hetero and homosexuals who abuse it.

[HostileTerritory]

Look for employers in MA and in states that recognize these "marriages" to terminate employee healthcare benefits.

I'm not holding my breath.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

I thought the whole point of marriage was monagomy.

I guess a gay marriage has no vows (too restrictive) or any language such as "forsaking all others so long as you both shall live" (too old-fashioned).

[darreaver]

I'm glad someone else feels the same way. I'm sick of having to use the pc term everytime i try to debate them.
guess they love that xmas song. now we don our gay attire.

[kallisti]

i have to agree with you on that one. several years ago my company shifted my production unit to a cheaper labor locale. however we didn't lay anyone off, we just absorbed everyone here.

[Poohbah]

When providing benefits to gay "spouses" to treat AIDS/GRIDS and various other STDs drives the cost of coverage to and beyond the point of sanity...companies will terminate coverage.

[darreaver]

this is becoming all too true.
I go to the homosexual message boards to debate them. the first thing they want you to do is throw out the bible, than the morality side of it. than they don't want to hear about free will.
I recently visited the john Kerry forum about them. i was censored so badly, and finally banned for being a radical.
they don't want a debate, just a cheering section for themselves.

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Tsunami of Sewage(tm) Agenda Ping.

From the Boston (deleted) Globe. Didn't read it, don't want to. For your edification if you can get to it.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

If anyone thinks homosexuals want marriage for any reason other than to detroy the very foundations of human civilization, namely marriage and family, he is wrong. Of course, money is good too in the form of benefits and whatnot, but that's just a detail.

[onyx]

I am unable to put my thoughts
into words acceptable for FR.

[BriarBey]

This garbage of homo marriages has got me so depressed, I don't even want to leave the house. God's mercy only lasts for so long and this is far to blatent. Sodomy, baby killing and God Bless America DO NOT go together. I don't even feel right praying for his mercy anymore. I just want to cry and hide.

[HostileTerritory]

The number of gay spouses potentially gaining coverage this way as a share of the number of gay employees currently getting coverage through their employees is minimal.

The insurance system will certainly collapse for other reasons beyond a few hundred homosexuals getting new access to health coverage.

[Fintan]

`I think it's possible to love more than one person and have more than one partner, not in the polygamist sense,' he said. `In our case, it is, we have, an open marriage...'"

 

Great. More AIDS. More Bono.

 

[PaForBush]

What's the point (other than blowing $25 on a piece of paper)?...


Heh, heh, heh -- You said "blowing"..... Beavis

[longtermmemmory]

How about passing referendums which ban homosexuals from adopting children. FL has such a law and it has been upheld by both state AND federal courts. (three times)

[longtermmemmory]

actually divorce lawyers don't like cases of marriages with less than two years and no children. There is nothing to dispute.

Homoesexuals in Mass will be able to use the divorce kits/forms. No need for lawyers.

[TexasTransplant]

What's the point (other than blowing $25 on a piece of paper)?

 

Hey blowing $25

blowing a piece of paper

blowing each other

who are we to judge?

 

the answer is blowin in the wind

[little jeremiah]

I actually feel very hopeful, even in the midst of this incredible onslaught of homosexual radicalism, actually hedonistic-secular humanist-atheist terrorism.

Why? Because it is said, with good reason, that it is darkest before the dawn.

God exists, this is truth. His nature is all-perfect, all-merciful, all-knowing, and all-powerful. Nothing is out of His grasp, nothing is beyond His knowledge or His control. Those who rebel against Him suffer the results, and we can see that not only today is Massachusetts and elsewhere, but even within the confines of our own hearts.

In His perfect wisdom and mercy He gives us free will - because without the choice of rejecting Him, there can be no loving surrender. The more we choose Him, and pray for His mercy in helplessness, the more we will see His hand in our lives daily. The more we will experience His direction, guidance, and presence. One sincere soul praying incessantly - which can be done within, no matter what we are doing - can change the world.

More and more people are waking up, I am convinced. The evil that is being perpetrated in the name of "Gay Rights", "reproductive rights", "right to die", as well as jihadi terrorists, is so terrible, that many people who have up until now remained more or less asleep, can sleep no longer.

I think there is great hope in the midst of these sorrowful and dangerous times. Each one of us has a great opportunity to turn to God and by doing so become secure and happy ourselves, and do great good for others.

With sincere regards,
little jeremiah

[little jeremiah]

Here's a link to a speech Alan Keyes gave a couple of days ago - it's a long read and WORTH READING EVERY WORD!

It'll cheer you up to see how other people get it. He is so articulate, the man is brilliant.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1137371/posts

[onyx]

Thank you for your thoughts
and for the link.
I want you to be right.

[little jeremiah]

I know I am!

:-)

Not 'cause I know anything, but because God is perfect!

(And on a more mundane level, I see a LOT of freepers say that they used to have a "live and let live" about homosexuality, but now they are being radicalized! The more a person learns about homosexuality (or abortion) the more they WAKE up to the truth. FR is wonderful because it is a beacon of the light of truth that can be accessed anywhere all over the world. And there are many websites dedicated to broadcasting the truth.)

[darreaver]

right. since they can't reproduce on their own, they need some new recruits,, ea; children.
how long will people sit on the fence and let this go on.
that is what let them get so far, too many people saying they aren't hurting me so let them be.
no look, you can't even turn on the tv without seeing one of them.

[darreaver]

they already do that on the debate boards.
the first thing they want you to throw out is the religious side of the issue. than goes morality, than free will.
if you go to the john kerry message boards on homosexual marriage, they talk that way about religion.
anyone who makes a post against them are deleted and the member banned.

[darreaver]

i'm done tolerating them. people have been doing it far too long. thats why you can't turn on your tv without seeing them flaunted around. thats why you can't go to the mall without seeing them flaunting .

[darreaver]

they can't pass a law forcing us to accept them. even if they try. i'll never accept them, and i do believe their are enough of us good normal people around to stop it. like we should of done to the homosexual issue years ago.

[freepy smurf]

These are the people we are breaking our culture for.