Posted on 05/19/2004 4:39:14 AM PDT by truthserum
ATLANTA - A military rocket launcher was found Tuesday near a rail-transit station, but the FBI said it looks to be a less-powerful model commonly used to train soldiers and would be unable to bring down an aircraft or destroy a train. . . . Lazarus said there was no cause for public alarm and the city's rail-transit system was not interrupted by the discovery.
(Excerpt) Read more at ledger-enquirer.com ...
Now we are told that the discovery of a training-style rocket launcher near Atlanta's rapid transit system, on a hill looking down on the tracks, "was no cause for public alarm." When will we learn. Even terrorist follow the precept that practice makes perfect.
Wasn't it James Woods (the actor) who reported middle eastern men on a flight behaving oddly just days before the attack?
Indeed he did...and was totally ignored.
Has anyone seen a picture of this thing on the net?
Yep
Ya know! Between this and the empty suitcases found, I'm kinda creeped out.
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Well what's *he* worried about... he was raised from the dead.
Ping. Ping. Ping.
Put your trust in The Lord and keep your eyes open. Fear is for non-believers and that isn't you.
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It got up and walked to the railroad all by itself, the same way the serin gas bomb got itself to the roadway. Ya know, I don't care if it's too small to destroy an entire train but is it powerful enough to damage the rails to cause the entire train to crash or could it destroy the car my family is in.
You are right, of course!
Could this be the one that brought down Fight 800, initiating the largest conspiracy and coverup in world history?
It takes effort but it can and should be done.
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What about the suitcases of body parts found at the Chesapeake Bay over the past few weeks??????? That's creepy, too.
What they found was apparently a TRAINING AT-4 Launcher. It is NOT an anti-aircraft missle nor can the trainer fire any missles. Nor can it be modified to be used as a launcher. The fore end, laser transmitter, is removed and the shells are then disposed of as surplus. The most likely scenario is that it fell off a scrap car.
The M136 AT4 launcher is used by the Army to destroy light tanks. It will be examined further to be sure it is only a training model, said FBI spokesman Steve Lazarus. "If it is indeed a training device, it's something you can buy at any gun store ," he said.
Why can you buy something like this that can take out tanks at a gun store???
Can anybody send a link to the stuff on James Woods?
Hearsay reports are that the bird that brought down flight 800 was a Swedish portable. It's optically guided, so it was targeted at the belly strobe.
Huh?
You can only buy expended ones; kind of like inert grenades used for paperweights.
Here's the thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1137172/posts
Come on. First it was a training round which carries much ,ess explosives, but that isn't the issue. The tube was empty and had probably been for quite some time. My guess is that someguy in the Army picked it up off the trash pile (as they are one use tubes) and gave it to his 10 year old son to play Army with. The kid played with it for a while and got distracted and left it laying on the ground.
Keeee-rist! The thing was harmless. It was a tube that held an inert rocket like device that SIMULATES a real device. These are fairly cheap and when they break, the military takes off any valuable parts and throws it away.
Why is it in gun stores? Because the BATF has decided that they are HARMLESS.
Either that, or someone was doing a practice run with a real enough simulator that wouldn't get anyone in trouble if the person or team was caught. Both risk and likelyhood need to be considered in pioritizing this find.
Whoa! I didn't hear about that one. Body parts!?!
yup. Three suitcases found on three separate occasions, each containing body parts. Weird stuff.
Furthermore, the article states that the launcher was found on an embankment near the tracks. I suppose it is more likely than not that a training grade weapon was accidently bumped off the freight cars attached in a rare as hen's teeth moment to a city rapid transit train and that upon falling from the train the weapon bounced up from the track level ground up onto a nearby embankment.
I made clear in my initial comment that if this was a problem it was that it reflected training because practice, even for terrorists, makes perfect.
Of course the device may have been sourced elsewhere, and represent no danger to Atlanta's rapid transit (and freight???) system. And, of course, not every box-cutter put on board an airliner is intended to facilitate a terroristic attack.
If you can get it into the area undetected, well and good. If you can't, all the authorities have is a person that may or may not be placed under observation. Certainly possession of such an artifact isn't legally actionable.
So why leave it in the area to alert authorities? First, to see if it does get found, and you hear about it through normal channels. Second, supposing things shake down just like they have, and your artifact causes a stir; can the authorities track you down from it?
With no other detritus?
This thing is completely harmless, I knew what it was the minute I saw it on the news. In its current state it is a toy and cannot be made dangerous unless you hit somebody over the head with it. I played with expended "laws" all of the time when I was a kid. This was an AT-4 trainer that fires a 9mm round prior to being disabled. You can get them at any army navy surplus store. Also no one would ever waste a rocket on a Marta train. Nobody rides it.
Answer to first, yes, it did cause a stir.
Answer to second, no, probalby not. Like has been said, they are sold as unusable scrap to dealers who sell them to people who collect military junk. The Army doesn't sell useable rocket launchers to the public. There are literally thousands of these things floating around.
If it was done for malicious reasons, it was probably to watch the police scramble like ants and the worriers wring their hands and DEMAND that SOMETHING be done.
The Democratic Party is poopin' in their britches over this. They were clinging to their "NO WMD'S!" chant, and this fact messes 'em up.
The Dem's Motto: When confronted with an inconvenient truth, either kill 'em or lie...whichever is most convenient.
I think, perhaps, you missed my point. No body said anything about the tube ever being a live launcher while it was on-site.
The point is can you get something that looks like a rocket launcher into the area without being intercepted by "something" (guards, cameras, children playing, etc.)?
If you do get caught, they can't do anything to you for an inert launcher.
but... but... nobody uses MARTA
Technically impossible. MARTA uses a completely different system from conventional rail.
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