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The Enemy is Not Just Al-Qaeda
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 5/20/04 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 05/20/2004 1:18:43 AM PDT by kattracks

Editor's note: In the light of the recent feeding frenzy in the press over some Mujahideen warriors who got their feelings hurt, it is apparent that many Americans don’t “get it” that we are in a war for our survival.  The article that follows is a corrective, particularly in light of the prison scandal and the unseemly and self-destructive hysteria over it. The prisoners being made into victims in the prison abuse debacle in Iraq were captured with guns in their hands in Iraq trying to kill our soldiers.  They are apocalyptic Muslim warriors/terrorists who live to die while killing us.  They are hard cases and tough to break for information, information which could save American and Iraqi lives.  

As we’ve listened to this prison case unfold we have heard that out of a 700 person Military Police Battalion there are seven or eight people who have poor judgment.  However, the abuses they are charged with committing are mainly those of petty things like changing the eating cycle of the prisoners, leaving the lights on 24 hours per day (sleep deprivation) and other techniques designed to break down a prisoner’s resistance to tough questions.  It is rough treatment and the 780 American dead from Iraq probably wish that we had gotten a lot tougher a lot sooner so we could have known where the terrorist was who killed them.  That’s what is at stake here – survival.  If some Muslim warrior from Yemen who went to Iraq to kill Americans gets his feelings hurt – just remember – he was not arrested by a street cop for spitting on the sidewalk.  He was dragged from his fighting hole by our soldiers.  He’s a Yemeni and he’s in Iraq.  Why is that?  Why is he not in Yemen?

The three things every American needs to understand (and what this article makes clear) is that our enemy is not one organization (al-Qaeda), that the this war did not start on 9/11, and that it will not be over until our enemies are disarmed and dead.

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The Enemy is Not Just Al-Qaeda

By Robert Spencer

“I believe you are what Americans call Al-Qaeda.” National Guard Spc. Ryan Anderson gave this response when two undercover agents he thought were Islamic terrorists asked him: “What organization do you think we are?”

 

Anderson, who is now under arrest for attempting to betray his country and join the jihad, chose his words carefully. A convert to Islam who had spent considerable time cruising for radical Muslim Internet sites, Anderson knew that what Americans think of as one unified organization — Al-Qaeda — is in reality a loose affiliation of many organizations, or even an American conceptual grouping of people who share common motives and goals.

 

This misunderstanding by many is what makes questions revolving around a link between Saddam and Al-Qaeda so crucial: if Iraq had nothing to do with Al-Qaeda, the assumption goes, it had nothing to do with terrorism, and American armies never should have gone there. The war must have started to protect American oil supplies or create jobs for Halliburton or avenge Saddam’s attempt on President Bush’s father.

 

But Saddam could have had, and did have, many ties to terrorism.

 

In March of 2002, the Iraqi dictator arranged a public ceremony to pay roughly $500,000 to terrorists in the West Bank, paying $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers and $10,000 to those whose family members were killed in other clashes with the Israeli army. If Saddam never had anything to do with Al-Qaeda (which is still an open question), he was clearly a supporter of terrorism.  Because of the politically correct blackout in the mainstream media on serious inquiry into the roots of Islamic radicalism, many Americans still believe that the terrorist enemy is limited to an organization named Al-Qaeda, and that the threat will end once that group is neutralized or eliminated; in light of this, Saddam’s well documented connections to terrorist groups other than Al-Qaeda are ignored.

 

The question of the nature of Al-Qaeda, and of the Islamic terror threat as a whole, carries important policy implications  In reality, the terrorist threat and the Al-Qaeda threat are far from synonymous. The roots of today’s war on terror lie in the creation not of Al-Qaeda, but of the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

The Muslim Brotherhood, the prototypical Muslim radical group of the modern age, was founded in Egypt by Hassan Al-Banna in 1928. The Brotherhood emerged as a response to the abolition of the caliphate by Turkish secularist pioneer Mustafa Kemal Ataturk in 1924. Al-Banna and the Brotherhood considered Islam to have an essential political and social character that needed to be reasserted in the face of the societal ills that had come to the Islamic world with secularism. Al-Banna excoriated Ataturk for separating “the state from religion in a country which was until recently the site of the Commander of the Faithful.” Sounding notes that Osama bin Laden would echo decades later, Al-Banna characterized the abolition of the caliphate as just part of a larger “Western invasion which was armed and equipped with all [the] destructive influences of money, wealth, prestige, ostentation, power and means of propaganda.”

 

Al-Banna’s Brotherhood had a deeply spiritual character from its beginning, but it didn’t combat the “Western invasion” with just words and prayers. Al-Banna decried the complacency of the Egyptian elite: “What catastrophe has befallen the souls of the reformers and the spirit of the leaders? . . . What calamity has made them prefer this life to the thereafter [sic]? What has made them . . . consider the way of struggle [sabil al-jihad] too rough and difficult?” When the Brotherhood was criticized for being a political group in the guise of a religious one, al-Banna met the challenge head-on:

“We summon you to Islam, the teachings of Islam, the laws of Islam and the guidance of Islam, and if this smacks of ‘politics’ in your eyes, then it is our policy. And if the one summoning you to these principles is a ‘politician,’ then we are the most respectable of men, God be praised, in politics . . . Islam does have a policy embracing the happiness of this world. . . . We believe that Islam is an all-embracing concept which regulates every aspect of life, adjudicating on every one of its concerns and prescribing for it a solid and rigorous order.”

 

Al-Banna’s vision was in perfect accord with that of classical Muslim scholars such as Ibn Khaldun, who taught in the fourteenth century that “in the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force.” In a similar spirit, Al-Banna wrote in 1934 that “it is a duty incumbent on every Muslim to struggle towards the aim of making every people Muslim and the whole world Islamic, so that the banner of Islam can flutter over the earth and the call of the Muezzin can resound in all the corners of the world: God is greatest [Allahu akbar]! This is not parochialism, nor is it racial arrogance or usurpation of land.”

 

Al-Banna would doubtless therefore have looked kindly upon the Palestinian Sheikh Ibrahim Madhi’s 2002 call to believers: “Oh beloved, look to the East of the earth, find Japan and the ocean; look to the West of the earth, find [some] country and the ocean. Be assured that these will be owned by the Muslim nation, as the Hadith says . . . ‘from the ocean to the ocean.’” 

 

According to Brynjar Lia, the historian of the Muslim Brotherhood movement: “Quoting the Qur’anic verse ‘And fight them till sedition is no more, and the faith is God’s’ [Sura 2:193], the Muslim Brothers urged their fellow Muslims to restore the bygone greatness of Islam and to re-establish an Islamic empire. Sometimes they even called for the restoration of ‘former Islamic colonies’ in Andalus (Spain), southern Italy, Sicily, the Balkans and the Mediterranean islands.”

 

Such talk may have seemed laughable then, but it isn’t so much now in these days of increasing jihadist activity in Spain, the Balkans, and elsewhere in Europe. And even at that time, the Brotherhood had weapons and a military wing. Scholar Martin Kramer notes that the Brotherhood had “a double identity. On one level, they operated openly, as a membership organization of social and political awakening. Banna preached moral revival, and the Muslim Brethren engaged in good works. On another level, however, the Muslim Brethren created a ‘secret apparatus’ that acquired weapons and trained adepts in their use. Some of its guns were deployed against the Zionists in Palestine in 1948, but the Muslim Brethren also resorted to violence in Egypt. They began to enforce their own moral teachings by intimidation, and they initiated attacks against Egypt’s Jews. They assassinated judges and struck down a prime minister in 1949. Banna himself was assassinated two months later, probably in revenge.”

 

The Brotherhood was no gathering of marginalized kooks. It grew in Egypt from 150 branches in 1936 to as many as 1,500 by 1944. In 1939 al-Banna referred to “100,000 pious youths from the Muslim Brothers from all parts of Egypt,” and although Lia believes he was exaggerating at that point, by 1944 membership was estimated as between 100,000 and 500,000. By 1937 it had expanded beyond Egypt, setting up “several branches in Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, and Morocco, and one in each of Bahrain, Hadramawt, Hyderabad, Djibouti and,” Lia adds matter-of-factly, “Paris.” These many thousands, dispersed around the world, heard al-Banna’s call to “prepare for jihad and be lovers of death.”

 

One of the Muslim Brotherhood’s principal children is Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement that glorifies the murder of innocent civilians in Israel. Hamas identifies itself in its Charter as “one of the wings of the Muslim Brothers in Palestine. The Muslim Brotherhood Movement is a world organization, the largest Islamic Movement in the modern era. It is characterized by a profound understanding, by precise notions and by a complete comprehensiveness of all concepts of Islam in all domains of life: views and beliefs, politics and economics, education and society, jurisprudence and rule, indoctrination and teaching, the arts and publications, the hidden and the evident, and all the other domains of life.”

 

Only at this point does Al-Qaeda come into the picture. According to Jane’s Intelligence Review, one man — Sheikh Abdullah Azzam — was both “an influential figure in the Muslim Brotherhood” and “the historical leader of Hamas.” Azzam was a Muslim scholar who shaped Osama bin Laden’s view of the world. Raised in a pious Muslim household, Azzam earned a degree in Sharia from the Sharia College of Damascus University in 1966. In 1973 he received a Ph.D. in Islamic jurisprudence from al-Azhar University in Cairo, the oldest, most respected, and most influential institute of higher learning in the Muslim world.

 

Azzam then joined the jihad against Israel, but soon grew frustrated. His fellow mujahedin spent their off-hours gambling and playing music, both forbidden activities according to Islamic law — particularly in the interpretation of the Shafi’i school which holds sway at al-Azhar. Ultimately Azzam decided that “this revolution has no religion behind it” and traveled to Saudi Arabia to teach. There he taught that the Muslim’s philosophy in conflicts with non-Muslims ought to be “jihad and the rifle alone. NO negotiations, NO conferences and NO dialogue.”

 

In 1980, attracted by the jihad against the Soviets in Afghanistan, he went to Pakistan to get to know the movement’s leaders. He taught for a while at the International Islamic University in Islamabad, but soon resigned in order to devote himself full-time to jihad. Azzam and his “dear friend” Osama bin Laden founded the Mujahedin Service Bureau in order to give aid to those fighting in Afghanistan. However, “this was not enough to satisfy Sheikh Azzam’s burning desire for Jihad. That desire inspired him finally to go to the frontline.” There he was killed in 1989 under mysterious circumstances in Peshawar. His followers hail him as a martyr and as “the main pillar of the Jihad movement in the modern times.” Said Osama bin Laden ten years later in an interview broadcast on Al-Jazeera television: “Sheikh Abdullah Azzam was not an individual, but an entire nation by himself. Muslim women have proven themselves incapable of giving birth to a man like him after he was killed.”

 

Azzam truly was extraordinary. It is remarkable indeed that this academic who earned degrees from two major Islamic universities and taught in four countries would have ended up fighting alongside Osama bin Laden. Why wasn’t he upbraided and dismissed by the faculties of any of these universities for his radicalism? Why wasn’t he convinced that the way he was thinking of jihad was out of step with the Qur’an and the example of the Prophet?

 

The obvious answer is that his view of jihad was not a newly-minted heresy, held only by his colleagues in Al-Qaeda, but something believed much more broadly. This fact was underscored by the success of the Islamic revolution in Iran in 1979. Of course, Jimmy Carter’s feckless policies made the Ayatollah Khomeini’s triumph possible, but Khomeini himself, a Shi’ite who had no involvement in the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood, was absolutely clear about the Islamic character of his revolution. “Islam,” he declared, “makes it incumbent on all adult males . . . to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. . . . But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world. ... Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! … There are hundreds of other [Qur’anic] psalms and Hadiths [sayings of Muhammad] urging Muslims to value war and to fight.”

 

Khomeini’s words are echoed today by operatives in dozens, if not hundreds of other Islamic groups around the world that are dedicated to jihad. Al-Qaeda is involved with some, but not all. Some are even rivals of Al-Qaeda, although they will always work together against a common non-Islamic foe rather than allow themselves to be diverted into fighting one another. In fact, Abu Musab al Zarqawi, the terrorist mastermind in Iraq whom the CIA says murdered Nicholas Berg, is not an Al-Qaeda operative. Robert S. Leiken and Steven Brooke of the Nixon Center explain that “though he met with bin Laden in Afghanistan several times, the Jordanian never joined al Qaeda. Militants have explained that Tawhid [Zarqawi’s own radical Muslim group] was ‘especially for Jordanians who did not want to join al Qaeda.’”

 

Recent reports confirm that, far from emanating from a single, hierarchical organization, Islamic terrorism is being perpetrated today by widely dispersed groups that share only a similar view of the world and how they would like to transform it. In a piece on Moroccan terrorists, the New York Times noted that their “networks are dispersed throughout Europe and are very autonomous.” This pattern recurs among Islamic militants worldwide.

 

There is even a continuing threat from an old source: the Muslim Brotherhood. Just last Sunday Egyptian police arrested 54 members of the group on suspicion of involvement in terrorist activities. Although its younger, flashier children grab more of the headlines, the Brotherhood is by no means a spent force. It ongoing involvement in violence (combined with American unwillingness to acknowledge how compelling the radical vision of Islam is to Muslims) is just more evidence that today’s fixation with Al-Qaeda could be dangerously misleading.

 

Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch and the author of Onward Muslim Soldiers: How Jihad Still Threatens America and the West (Regnery Publishing), and Islam Unveiled: Disturbing Questions About the World’s Fastest Growing Faith (Encounter Books).

 

Notes:

 

Ray Rivera, “Talk of defecting shown in video,” Seattle Times, May 13, 2004.

Brynjar Lia, The Society of the Muslim Brothers in Egypt, Ithaca Press, 1998. P. 28.

Lia, p. 33.

Lia, pp. 68-9, 75-6.

Ibn Khaldun, The Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History, translated by Franz Rosenthal; edited and abridged by N. J. Dawood, Princeton University Press, 1967, p. 183.

Lia, p. 79.

Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), “Friday Sermon on Palestinian Authority TV,” MEMRI Special Dispatch No. 370, April 17, 2002. www.memri.org.

Lia, p. 80.

Martin Kramer, “Fundamentalist Islam at Large: The Drive for Power,” Middle East Quarterly, June 1996.

Lia, pp. 153-4.

Lia, p. 155.

Jonathan Raban, “Truly, madly,deeply devout,” The Guardian, March 2, 2002.                                

Phil Hirschkorn, Rohan Gunaratna, Ed Blanche, and Stefan Leader, “Blowback,” Jane’s Intelligence Review, August 1, 2001.

See ‘Umdat al-Salik, k29.5; r40.1-3.

“Who was Abdullah Azzam?” in Abdullah Azzam, Join the Caravan, Azzam Publications, 2001. P. 8.

Ibid., p. 9.

Ibid., p. 10.

Ibid., p. 11.

Ibid., p. 7.

Quoted in Amir Taheri, Holy Terror: Inside the World of Islamic Terrorism, Adler & Adler, 1987, pp. 241-3.

Robert S. Leiken & Steven Brooke, “Who Is Abu Zarqawi?,” Weekly Standard, May 24, 2004.

Elaine Sciolino, “Morocco Connection Is Emerging as Sleeper Threat in Terror War,” New York Times,

May 16, 2004.



TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: madpoet; muslims

1 posted on 05/20/2004 1:18:44 AM PDT by kattracks
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2 posted on 05/20/2004 1:26:07 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: kattracks
Self bump to read later

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3 posted on 05/20/2004 1:36:54 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An oath is FOREVER)
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Robert Spencer BUMP


4 posted on 05/20/2004 1:37:12 AM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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To: Dajjal

The problem with this article is best shown by a quote from the preamble:

"The prisoners being made into victims in the prison abuse debacle in Iraq were captured with guns in their hands in Iraq trying to kill our soldiers. "

But up to 80% of those taken into custody are apparently NOT combatants .. merely caught up in sweeps, or wrongly targetted (often as a result of grudges by fellow Iraqis).

Sadim


5 posted on 05/20/2004 1:39:05 AM PDT by sadimgnik
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To: kattracks

I hope we radio tagged many of the guys we released.

Then track them to their terrorist dens.


7 posted on 05/20/2004 1:50:18 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: sadimgnik

There are different cell blocks within the prison. Where all the bad stuff was reported to have happen was in the cell blocks where the worst prisoners were held.

They were not simply common criminals.


9 posted on 05/20/2004 1:52:27 AM PDT by DB ()
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But up to 80% of those taken into custody are apparently NOT combatants .. merely caught up in sweeps, or wrongly targetted (often as a result of grudges by fellow Iraqis).

Didn't Rumsfeld in his testimony say that originally we held 43,000 detainees -- and now hold (IIRC) only about 4,000 or 5,000? The others were released. (I admit I find the numbers thrown around confusing; if someone can confirm or correct, I would appreciate it.)

10 posted on 05/20/2004 2:05:04 AM PDT by maryz
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To: kattracks

BTTT Americans still Asleep at the Wheel.


11 posted on 05/20/2004 2:25:34 AM PDT by philman_36
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Bump for tomorrow.


12 posted on 05/20/2004 2:33:15 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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13 posted on 05/20/2004 2:41:59 AM PDT by backhoe (--30--)
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The linkage for America tying Saddam and AQ (terrorism) cannot be drawn from Bin Laden's organization issuing statements linking the US and Israel and their war. This linkage is the same as linking Germany and Italy to Japan after Peral Harbor in WWII. Both made statements and took actions in harmony as a common enemy towards two separate coutnries - Afarat gambled, as it Syria and Iran to this end. Lybia has steped away from this "unholy" alligance.


14 posted on 05/20/2004 3:00:28 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: kattracks

Yet another doctoral dissertation from David Horowitz's blogsite - too far above the mentation of The Sheep to be of any use.

Down the Memory Hole.


15 posted on 05/20/2004 5:02:23 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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16 posted on 05/20/2004 5:21:34 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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17 posted on 05/20/2004 5:22:37 AM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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...He was killed by the combined Portuguese-Ethiopian soldiers after he devastated much of the highlands of Ethiopia. He invaded several Ethiopian churches and subjected many of the Christian Ethiopians to indignities of all kind.

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18 posted on 05/20/2004 6:19:03 AM PDT by miltonim (Fight those who do not believe in Allah. - Koran, Surah IX: 29)
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Anderson, who is now under arrest for attempting to betray his country and join the jihad, chose his words carefully. A convert to Islam who had spent considerable time cruising for radical Muslim Internet sites, Anderson knew that what Americans think of as one unified organization — Al-Qaeda — is in reality a loose affiliation of many organizations, or even an American conceptual grouping of people who share common motives and goals.

Talk of defecting shown in video

By Ray Rivera
Seattle Times staff reporter

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001927525_anderson13m.html

FORT LEWIS — In a covered parking garage near Seattle Center, National Guard Spc. Ryan Anderson sat in an SUV with two men who spoke with Arabic accents.
"What organization do you think we are?" said one of the men, an undercover agent calling himself Mohammed.

"I believe you are what Americans call al-Qaida," Anderson replied.

Before the hourlong conversation was over, all of it captured by a hidden camera in early February, Anderson spoke of the possibility of defecting to join the terrorist group. He also offered to help train al-Qaida fighters to take out U.S. convoys in Iraq and shared ways of destroying U.S. tanks and killing their crews, according to the video.

When the other agent asked about Humvees equipped with added armor, Anderson replied that the vehicles were still vulnerable, particularly the windshield.

"It would be very easy to kill a driver, or the crew inside," he said.

The damaging video was shown yesterday in day one of a two-day preliminary hearing at Fort Lewis to determine if Anderson should face trial by court-martial on charges of attempting to aid the enemy. The hearing, known as an Article 32, continues today.

If convicted, he could face the death penalty, though no one has been put to death in the military in more than 40 years.

Anderson, a 26-year-old Muslim convert from Lynnwood, was arrested Feb. 12, just weeks before he was to deploy to Iraq with the Washington state National Guard's 81st Armored Brigade, where he served as a tank crewman.

Anderson, wearing desert fatigues, glasses and a crew cut, sat quietly throughout the hearing taking notes and conferring with his military attorney. Family members sat in the gallery behind him.

According to testimony, Anderson first came to the attention of investigators through a Montana judge who spent her off-hours hunting for terrorists on the Internet.




Shannen Rossmiller from Conrad, Mont., testified that she was monitoring a Web site that catered to Muslim extremists when she came across a posting by an "Amid Abdul Rashid."

After a series of searches, she traced the name to Anderson and, posing as a Muslim extremist, exchanged e-mails with him. Learning that he was a member of the military, and believing that he might be a threat, she contacted authorities.

Anderson told her "he was curious if a brother fighting for the wrong side could defect," Rossmiller testified.

Once alerted by Rossmiller, the FBI contacted military-intelligence officers, who set up a sting operation and traded dozens of text messages with Anderson. "Are you with us brother?" they asked in one. "Every step of the way, Inshallah (if God wills)," he replied, according to transcripts of the messages shown in court.

On Feb. 8, as his unit was undergoing pre-deployment training at Fort Lewis, Anderson met with undercover Officer Ricardo Romero at a bookstore in nearby Lakewood, Romero testified.

Romero said he asked if Anderson could provide a passport photo and a military manual. Anderson agreed, Romero said.

The next day, Anderson met with Romero and another agent near Seattle Center.

The prosecutors, Maj. Chris Jenks and Maj. Timothy MacDonnell, showed a videotape of the encounter.

On the tape, Anderson told the men that his mother was Jordanian and that he had converted to Islam because he "found no faith in Christian teachings and looked for a way to feel the emptiness."

He showed them schematics of M1A1 Abrams tanks pulled from an unclassified Defense Department Web site and pointed out vulnerabilities in the tanks.

After being asked why he would want to help al-Qaida, Anderson replies on the video: "While I love my country, I think the leaders have taken this horrible road. I have no belief in what the American Army has asked me to do. They have sent me to die."

The prosecutors also called two civilian witnesses who work for the military. They testified that Anderson's statements about the Abrams tank were accurate.

Under cross-examination by Anderson's lawyer, Maj. Joseph Morse, Romero acknowledged that some of the things Anderson told him, such as his mother being from Jordan, were untrue.

Romero also acknowledged that Anderson said things that were exaggerated or untrue, such as his claim of being a qualified pilot and holding a concealed-weapons permit.

Morse did not call any witnesses yesterday. Anderson and his attorney have declined interviews.

Among those at Anderson's hearing was Capt. James Yee, a Muslim chaplain at Fort Lewis who until recently was embroiled in an investigation of suspected espionage at the Guantánamo Bay detention camp in Cuba. The Army has since dismissed all charges against Yee. Yee refused to say, and Army officials refused to disclose, why he attended the hearing.

The Associated Press contributed to this report. Ray Rivera: 206-464-2926 or rayrivera@seattletimes.com


Copyright © 2004 The Seattle Times Company


19 posted on 05/20/2004 6:36:12 AM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: kattracks
The three things every American needs to understand (and what this article makes clear) is that our enemy is not one organization (al-Qaeda), that the this war did not start on 9/11, and that it will not be over until our enemies are disarmed and dead.

Very well said, we are in a war against terrorists, of which Al Queada is one set. There are forces which want to take down our government and take away our freedoms. Another war broke out on May 17th against our constitution, as judges have taken over our democracy and republican form of government. They have decided to deny us the right to vote.

It is time to get on your knees and pray. It is time for our voices to be heard. Demand that these justices are impeached, vote the rascals out that are promoting activist judges and take back our land.

Another war has been declared on America. And it's target, this time, is our children.

20 posted on 05/20/2004 6:43:30 AM PDT by sr4402
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The Muslim Brotherhood's aims and methods are alive in the hearts of every sincere Muslim as it is essentially the application of Koranic teachings to modern political/cultural life. America is filled with the influence of the Brotherhood, esp. on college campuses where American women are susceptible to the charms of Arab men whose powers of persuasion are no match for the PC-crap-filled, weak-minded historical ignorant. This is not a cyncial view, but a realistic one and we here on FR have an opportunity to awaken America to the sedition of Islam and the duplicitous nature of Muslims who believe Allah wants us all dead or converted to Islam, no matter how vociferously they denounced terrorism.

For example, Yassir's father, Yussef, was a big-time member of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, who participated in several assinations (along with other family members) who married a former Catholic named Terry. Both got advanced degrees from American universities (Ed.D in Library Science and a Ph.D.) They now live in Kuwait and spend their summers in Holland, Michigan with their four Muslim-indoctorianted children. Repeat this practice many times over and you see one way America is being set up for our demise.
21 posted on 05/20/2004 7:08:06 AM PDT by fatidic (fatidic: of or relating to prophecy)
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To: kattracks
Amen to that!

Very seldom that I come across a well learned article like that. The writer proves that he knows his history. The problem I have with our policies is; why the US provides safe harbor to the Moslem brotherhood? Why the US is not specifically talking against the Moslem brotherhood? Why the US is not pressuring Yemen, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Pakistan to close down its fanatical Islamic schools, or at least moderate its radical teaching.

As you can see these bastards have been venomous against the non-believers from the beginning. The fact that Israel is a non-believer state is just a side issue. However, the truth to be told, Israel conflict with the Palestinians has provided a good propaganda foundation for recruiting more young radicals, and, solving this problem will not end all the Islamic fanatics, but it will at least take most of its recruiting power.

Islam teaches forcing others to convert. Moderate Moslems can learn to sweep such teaching under the rug, if they chose to leave in peace with the rest of the world, and if the rest of the world is united in combating them. I am not going to hold my breath, however!

22 posted on 05/20/2004 7:14:47 AM PDT by philosofy123
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bump!

23 posted on 05/20/2004 7:24:08 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: sadimgnik
But up to 80% of those taken into custody are apparently NOT combatants .. merely caught up in sweeps, or wrongly targetted (often as a result of grudges by fellow Iraqis).

The 80% number refers to those taken into custody, the overwhelming majority of whom have been released, not those who are in long term detention. Admittadly the numbers aren't (nor should they be) available, but those wrongly targetted should approach zero.

24 posted on 05/20/2004 7:32:25 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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thanks for the ping, will read it after I mow my yard, yuck.


25 posted on 05/20/2004 8:18:41 AM PDT by knak
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To: kattracks

This is one of the best articles that I've read on the subject.

We're in deep doodoo...


26 posted on 05/20/2004 9:15:00 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Valin

Fort Lewis again. What's going on up there? I have a politically incorrect sugestion: All new military recruits who are Muslim should be declared 4-F. Existing Muslims in our military should be confined to barracks. How do you find the ones hiding their true identity? Watch their eating and prayer habits.


27 posted on 05/20/2004 9:21:50 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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