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Deliveryman: I Shot Man In Self-Defense(Fired from Pizza Hut for Saving his life from Thug!!)
http://www.theindychannel.com ^ | 05-18-2004

Posted on 05/21/2004 10:26:28 AM PDT by NJ Freeper

A Pizza Hut deliveryman who police say fatally shot a man on the city's east side Monday night says he acted in self-defense.

Ronald Honeycutt, 38, of Carmel, says he had just delivered a pizza at the Oaks Apartments around 11 p.m. Monday when a man approached him with a gun.

Honeycutt (pictured, right), who was near his delivery van and had his own gun, fired 15 times at the man, later identified as Jerome Brown, 20, of Indianapolis. Brown was taken to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

"The only thing I can do is protect myself, and if that means shooting somebody that intends to shoot you, so be it," Honeycutt told RTV6's Jack Rinehart Tuesday. "I'm sick of the crime and I'm sick of being victimized."

Honeycutt said that after the shooting, he picked up Brown's handgun and drove to a Pizza Hut, where sheriff's deputies took him into custody. Police questioned Honeycutt and then released him.

Pizza Hut, which has a policy forbidding deliverymen to carry weapons, fired Honeycutt soon after the shooting, Rinehart reported.

The county coroner's office Tuesday determined Brown died of multiple gunshot wounds.

Honeycutt said he used all the ammunition he had because Brown kept standing.

"The guy literally stood there the whole time with his arm up," Honeycutt said. "The whole time, I'm popping off rounds ... (and) the guy's still standing there after 15 rounds went off in him."

Honeycutt, who has a valid license to carry a firearm, said he planned to buy another handgun and go back to work with a different pizza business.

The Marion County prosecutor's office will review the case to determine whether Honeycutt acted in self-defense, Rinehart reported.


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KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guncontrol; guns; pizzawar; rhodesia; secondamendment; selfdefense
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To: LetsRok

I am with you. No guns was a condition of his employment. He should be satisfied that he wasn't caught with the gun before and was able to use it when he needed it.


61 posted on 05/21/2004 12:05:06 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: antiblazer
Sounds like another trigger-happy NRA fanatic

Please tell us more about trigger-happy NRA fanatics!

I'm a NRA member and I know hundreds more, I wouldn't call any of us trigger happy. We may be a bit fanatical about preserving our 2nd Ammendment rights, but I wouldn't put us on a par with the screaching harpys of NARAL, or the Million Moms for that matter.

And sensing you are a Dem troll, that's what should really scare you, there are millions of us out there every day, armed to the teeth and we look just like your Dad, your Brother, your Sister and your Mom.

We don't go through life dressed in Camo, we're generally not the ones with the bumper sticker that says, "Keep honking, I'm reloading".

Any time, any place, a theater, a park bench, in church, you could be sitting next to an armed American. (and FWIW, you will never be safer.)

62 posted on 05/21/2004 12:06:36 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: BooBoo1000
After six shots is the perp is still standing you can run up the barrel and hide.

Better yet, throw the brass at him, it'll knock him cold.

63 posted on 05/21/2004 12:07:49 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Mulder

I was told at the border(without them seeing my CCW permit) "you know you aren't allowed to bring in any handguns with you into Canada, right sir?"

Why would they ask that unless they had a reason to?


64 posted on 05/21/2004 12:09:47 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!!)
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To: 1L
Roughly the same as either a Federal 9mm 135 or a Remington 147 9mm, both of which probably have a little more penetration than the .40. The forty is fine if you like it; I prefer a 9.

In self defense stopping power is more important than penetration. That is why I shoot the .40 with the 135 GR COR-BON bullet. The one shot stopping power is 96% + and the bullet will stay in the perps chest. I don't want the bullet exiting the perp hitting an innocent bystander.

65 posted on 05/21/2004 12:10:50 PM PDT by fedupwithlibs
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To: NJ Freeper

bang...

...bang bang bang bang bang bang bang
bang bang bang bang bang bang bang

66 posted on 05/21/2004 12:11:48 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: ChuckShick

Thanks, good data.


67 posted on 05/21/2004 12:12:42 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: antiblazer

If adrenaline is rushing, you will not notice the passage of time like you do in a calm state. You could empty the magazine before you knew it.

And why should any FREE man RUN from his attacker when he has the advantage? Why the F would you turn your back on such a person? Are you nuts?

YOu shoot to stop the confrontation, if the other dude ran away, fine. But if he stood there, you shoot until he's stopped(either down or running the other way.)


68 posted on 05/21/2004 12:12:51 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!!)
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To: NJ Freeper
YUM! Brands, Inc. owns Pizza Hut along with a number of other brand names.

David Novak
Chairman, CEO, YUM! Brands, Inc.

Yum! Brands, Inc.
1441 Gardiner Lane
Louisville, KY 40213
502/874-8300
www.yum.com

69 posted on 05/21/2004 12:13:14 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: antiblazer

70 posted on 05/21/2004 12:16:02 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Skywalk
You shoot to stop the confrontation, if the other dude ran away, fine. But if he stood there, you shoot until he's stopped(either down or running the other way.)

The only disagreement I have is that you should leave a few rounds for his buddy (in case he is not alone). That is what I was taught in my CFP class. But I wasn't there standing in front of someone pointing a gun at me so who am I to judge his actions?

71 posted on 05/21/2004 12:24:31 PM PDT by fedupwithlibs
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To: LetsRok
If he didn't get fired the company would have to allow all employees the ability to register for a carry permit.

As far as I know, employees can still register for a CCW. They just can't pack on company time. What makes you think PepsiCo forbids them to carry at all?
72 posted on 05/21/2004 12:27:06 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Onelifetogive

You are absolutely correct. If PH hires and allows people to carry, they would have to train them in firearms, in most states procur an armed courier/guard/sherriffs special duty license and THEN, no insurance company would cover them for liability, worker's comp or probably casualty ins.


73 posted on 05/21/2004 12:27:53 PM PDT by Safetgiver (A headless horseman for the new millenium!!)
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To: Mulder
What if the company policy said "no blacks" or "no women" or "no senior citizens".

Yeah yeah yeah, and what if a frog had wings? He wouldn't bump his ass when he hopped. Try to keep it in the realm of the plausible.
74 posted on 05/21/2004 12:30:26 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Skywalk
I was told at the border(without them seeing my CCW permit) "you know you aren't allowed to bring in any handguns with you into Canada, right sir?"

Is it possible they say that to every border-crosser? I have trouble believing you were singled out.
75 posted on 05/21/2004 12:31:35 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: antiblazer

I believe you're on the wrong website. The "Website That Won't Be Named" is thataway.


76 posted on 05/21/2004 12:32:50 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Xenalyte
It's YUM!, not PepsiCo
78 posted on 05/21/2004 12:41:58 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
I have been told . . . I despise Pepsi so much that I tend to ignore its corporate doings.

For the record, I would like FReepers to know that the only places in Las Vegas to get an actual Diet Coke, untainted by any hint of Pepsi products, are strip joints.
79 posted on 05/21/2004 12:48:50 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte

I clicked your screen name and scrolled through your home page. It was hilarious! Thanks!


80 posted on 05/21/2004 12:49:08 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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