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Insider Report ^ | Larry Abraham

Posted on 05/22/2004 5:51:40 AM PDT by KeyLargo

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To: Axenolith
I'll believe the sincerity of the "85% peacefull muslims" when they've gotten that council together and removed the calls for blood from their holy book and I see them marching in the streets against Osama, Al Jazeera, Yasser Arafat, et. al.

Currently the ones I'm actually willing to accept at face value are, ironically, the Iranian masses. Their religious leaders prepare to sacrifice them soon though on the alter of allah, by aquiring the bomb to attack Israel.

modify the religion, by force if necessary, and save the people.

How can you modify a religion that is, at its root, the posthumous personality cult of a seventh century terrorist, conqueror, enslaver, rapist, pedophile, butcher, and murderer?

Call Islam what it is: Mohammedanism.

To cut out the worst of Islam, one must cut out Mohammed.

So how does Islam survive such a surgery?

It can't; the cancer is terminal.

121 posted on 05/26/2004 7:02:40 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Mohammed wrote: "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers." (Sura 8:12))
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Germany has been the center for the two major conflicts of the 20th Century for example, but we've never truly believed that the German people at large were inherently evil, we've always been able to focus on the fact that an idea was at fault.

I accept the same premise I've bolded for muslims, and just like Germany, we are not going to be able to subdue the enemy without sowing misery amongst the "good people" among them at large. An ideology or institution does not succumb to defeat unless the majority of people living under it good and bad, come to the realization that to further support their leaders and carry on is to invite utter destruction.

A microcosm of that situation was related to me by an old WWII Vet who'd been on the drive into Germany. At a small village they were entering, a little kid took out a lead tank with a panzerfaust. After that they sent a man ahead under a white flag into subsequent villages with the message that if that happened there when they arrived, they would raze the place to the ground with an artillery barrage. Subsequent hamlets cleaned out the fanatics themselves.

Crushing the Islamic nuts is the same. People in the nations harboring them need to know that the destruction sown upon them will be far greater if we have to come for them than if they root it out themselves. It can't just be empty UN words either. Islam is far more rooted in physical sites and the consequences of the physical world than the other major monotheistic religions. If attacking their shrines and leaders sows doubt in their minds as to their favor in their gods eyes then so be it. I'm not willing to sacrifice a single American life to the alter of "not making life difficult" for anyone in occupied\enemy territory.

Ghengis Khan and later, his grandson, didn't slaughter muslims because they didn't like them, they did it to get them to cease resisting them and they succeeded at it to. The means might not make us in the 21st century sleep very well, but it worked. Are you willing to spend X numbers of lives of our side "experimenting" toward the way to achieve some sort of peace with them? I sure as heck am not...

122 posted on 05/26/2004 7:53:48 AM PDT by Axenolith
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To: Sabertooth
Unfortunately our resolve to terminate that cancer is sorely lacking and the terminal prognosis could just as easily be for us as for them.

The analogy is spot on too, the nations are the tumors and the followers migrating willy nilly are the metastitizing cells...

The thing that really amazes me is all of the whimpering "don't go hard on them" folks. Going hard on them now IS mercifull. We won't hear all of this mushy peacenik BS nearly as loudly after a terrorist attack with 10's of thousands of casualties.

123 posted on 05/26/2004 8:04:49 AM PDT by Axenolith
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To: Luis Gonzalez

That's your best?

You are an aparatchik, embrace the role that you so joyfully carry out.

You know Luis, I can't really get worked up over your 5th columnist leanings because I know that time will prove me right...

124 posted on 05/26/2004 8:07:32 AM PDT by Axenolith
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To: fourdeuce82d

I checked out your Bio and saw you were '80 - '83.

My guess is that FDC still used plotting boards at that time.

I wonder what they use now. Surely something less archaic.

My apologies to others if this is OT.

125 posted on 05/26/2004 3:44:21 PM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam '70)
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126 posted on 11/06/2006 6:57:34 PM PST by OldCorps
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