Posted on 05/23/2004 8:29:20 PM PDT by quidnunc
Then you need to secularize the country and shove Islam into the background, like theyve done in Turkey. Say goodbye to the 10th century, for starters.
The idea of equality is unacceptable to Islam. For the non-believer cannot be the equal of the believer
if islam is incompatible with democracy is practicing islam not treason? At the very least is islam not an enemy ideology? And if so, why do we allow immigration of people who are our enemy?
No, per the article, the situation is far worse. Equality is not merely unacceptable, it is inconceivable. The words to discuss, to consider, to imagine equality do not even exist.
Can one think of a concept without the words to do so? No. Changing such cultural blindness is a multi-generational task.
Or, one could accomplish the same ends more quickly by compelling the abandonment of the limited belief system which is-slime represents.
Even then the Greek word entered Muslim vocabulary with little change: democrasi in Persian, dimokraytiyah in Arabic, demokratio in Turkish.
is a rather weak argument, given that the Greek word entered the Anglo vocabulary equally unchanged.
Turkey.
Any Islamist nutcase who tries to promote the return of the Sharia gets stepped on, hard, and toot damned sweet, too.
2 hundred years ago, America lived in a democracy based on equality for all men, except blacks and women. We changed, we've altered ourselves to extend democracy to any man who desires it.
I don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE for Islam. I think once it is introduced and they like it, they'll rethink their preconceived notions contained in their religion and change for the better. Or maybe I'm just an idealist republican... :0
Turkey is a democracy and it is Islamic dominated...it is a fairly stable country at this point.
The irony is that the Turks secularized their state at the expense of democracy and when the Turkish military allowed a free vote the Islamists won.
Islam is very compatible with mob rule (democracy). Islam is not compatible with individual freedom.
You missed the point - the words entered Islam but not the ideas - unlike the west.
Are the Turks Arab?
That's because Islam is a bunch of undeveloped neanderthals. The development of language signifies the development of human concepts and ideas. In fact, thinking, inventing and creating forces the development of new words. It's the bowing and scraping to a 'religion' of violence and oppression that keeps Islam stagnant. They simply cannot develop intellectually, emotionally and spriitually while paying reverence to the devil.
"Any Islamist nutcase who tries to promote the return of the Sharia gets stepped on, hard, and toot damned sweet, too."
Yes, and the military is sworn to uphold Ataturk's constitution, and they take that all very seriously. Of course, I think they still have some cultural problems relating to Islam, but they are miles ahead of other Islamic countries.
But I think it is a sad statement about this religion that in order for your Islamic society to succeed, you have to pratically shove your Islamic religion into a very large walk-in closet.
I respectfully disagree.
I understand that the idea has not been incorporated within 99.88% of the Islamic world, but trying to prove the point by through etymology is just silly.
On the one hand we have Islamophobia
They had to have reached into liberal U.S. to come up with this word. Now if they will just keep reading maybe they will also find the word "democracy".
Amir Taheri is, himself, a Shia Muslim.
Think about the Journalist and the message before raging into your kill all Muslim fanatical fantasy, aye?
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