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To: nopardons
Okay. You're still carrying on an argument about who uses the term salon and who does not? When did you become the arbiter of language? Let it go.

Secondly, though a corporation is not a person, but a legal fiction, it is run by people. Those people do have a responsibility to the society that they live in. It kind of comes with the nifty police and Army protection. So when those real people make decisions for the fictional people (corporations) they should have some regard for whether their decision will help or harm their society.

As to the fact that Loral occurred under Clinton, I don't dispute it. It's one of the many reasons I voted for Bush over Gore. Yet you're still not answering the basic question of whether it was a good thing for an American corporation to profit by arming a nation we could conceivably be at war with if Taiwan gets heated up.

Also, I said that "I think folks who cut corners like [hiring illegal aliens] are cut from the same mold as the Enron executive." I stand by that statement. Both crooked accounting and hiring illegals allow the malefactor to gain an illegal advantage in the marketplace and price out honest competitors.

I never diminished the "Robber Barons." Though it is quite sad to see their charitable foundations taken over by leftists. However, they gave back to society. Never said they didn't. What I have been saying is that just because something benefits a business or, more precisely, its owners, does not mean that it benefits society as a whole.

Finally, you never did tell me how to boldface or when to do it.
131 posted on 05/25/2004 1:12:45 AM PDT by asmith92008 (If we buy into the nonsense that we always have to vote for RINOs, we'll just end up taking the horn)
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To: asmith92008
Words and terms have set meanings.To use them otherwise and then have the gall to claim that the meaning has changed,when it most assuredly has NOT,is disingenuous,At best,and makes any discussion impossible.You bet I'm still on that!Without accepting the precise definition of words and phrases,discussion become akin to a Tower of Babel!

I threw in the Robber Barons because they did NOT "give back",in a corporate way,to "the little people".Their business practices and those of their lesser known compatriots,were selfish.Their philanthropy,was their person doings.Except,of course, J.P. Morgans saving and trying to save the market,on several different Panics and Crashes,at the behest of the Fed.Gov.!

Nope,businesses "owe" the society they live in nothing.They owe their stockholders,they owe their boards,they owe those whom they do business with some things;just NOT the "society",nor nation they live in.And since so many HUGE corporations are global,just which nation do they "owe" anyway?

Come on....have you ever worked on Wall Street,in any capacity? And if so,just how many "Wall Street salons"( are you sure you didn't perhaps mean,instead, soiree? ) have you attended?

I suggest that you visit FR's HTML Sandbox,if you have any questions pertaining to BOLDING a word. :-)

134 posted on 05/25/2004 1:28:57 AM PDT by nopardons
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