Skip to comments.U.S. Announces It Intends to Move Tons of Uranium From Baghdad
Posted on 05/24/2004 6:50:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin
IENNA, May 21 The United States has informed an international agency that oversees nuclear materials that it intends to move hundreds of tons of uranium from a sealed repository south of Baghdad to a more secure place outside Iraq, Western diplomats close to the agency say.
But the organization, the International Atomic Energy Agency, has taken the position that the uranium is Iraqi property and that the agency cannot give permission to remove it, a diplomat said. The diplomat said that the United States was unlikely to be deterred by that position and that American officials had contacted the agency on the matter this year, before the Iraq insurgency flared last month.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
NYT was sourced, but this also appeared in the ContraCostaTimes at http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/8731165.htm?1c.
This must be a hoax. There is no uranium, no yellow cake, no evidence of any kind of weapons or mass destruction or of a nuclear weapons program in Iraq.
You are correct. That is in fact what the article says.
Now here's a switch. I figured they'd accuse the U.S. of bringing it in. Now they're getting their knickers in a bunch because we want to take it out.
Yes, the lefties seem to think we are wrong to seperate the Uranium ore from the same situation in Iraq which they claim is 'chaotic'.
Taking away the terrorists weapons of mass destruction... appalling!
Now I see why the U.S. was concerned about that German company selling high grade alloy tubes designed for a nuclear centrifuge. (Saddam claimed they were 'rocket casings' IIRC)
Yes, TERRORISTS. KILLERS. THUGS.
and, yes, with weapons of mass distruction to include botulinum toxin, mustard, ricin and sarin in addition to radiological & nuclear materials. Can the average voter say "DIRTY BOMB" ???
strange that tonight Bush didn't mention the sarin laced shell or the yellow cake or the Bio WMD found so far in Iraq...I think his speech was canned for Iraq and other mid eastern countries...he looked pleasant and patriarchal...
Personally I wish he had looked more like a crazy Dad with a shotgun in his hand, fuming about WMDs and terrorists killing their own people!
You are supposed to verify all statements for factual validity and add a "Barf Alert" to the title.
I just couldn't resist the implications of the information - and the NY Times is cerainly NOT a 'right-wing' publication - the lefties can't deny this.
The leftists think they can spin out of anything. They think they learned to drive on ice.
But, please, don't nuke it. ;>)
Boy John....When you serve cake...you REALLY serve CAKE!
I agree. First we have WMDs exploding in Iraq and now this. You would think the WH would want to get this splashed all over the news.
The common theme is that it doesn't matter what the U.S. wants to do, they hate us and whatever we do. Screw 'em.
|gallon of gasoline||1.3x108|
|standard cubic foot of natural gas (SCF)||1.1x106|
|barrel of crude oil (contains 42 gallons)||6.1x109|
|pound of coal||1.6 x 107|
|pound of gasoline||2.2 x 107|
|pound of oil||2.4 x 107|
|pound of Uranium-235||3.7 x 1013|
|ton of coal||3.2 x 1010|
|ton of Uranium-235||7.4 x 1016|
Lots of bang for your buck with Uranium.
Beats crude oil all day long.
Why the UN and IAEA insisted this stuff be kept in Iraq to begin with is beyond me...
And THAT'S why they will NOT let it out of THEIR control...not Iraq's!
We will most certainly be able to trace the origins, and THAT will "displease" the FRENCH (who CONTROL the Niger mining operation!), and the U.N. SCUMBAGS that got kickbacks on it!
Interesting. Good find.
I am no math wizard but looking at the table it states a gallon of gasoline has less energy than a pound of gasoline. Also look at the comparison between a pound and a ton of coal.
WHAT DO YOU THINK DIRTY BOMBS ARE MADE OF. THIS STUFF + EXPLOSIVES CAN KILL THOUSANDS. WMDS?
Yup no WMD potential here....move along
A pound of anything is 1/2000th of a ton. A ton of coal has 2000 times more energy than a pound of coal. Do the math and you'll see it's correct.
A gallon of gasoline does not weigh a pound. One is a unit of weight and the other is a unit of volume.
My math leaves much to be desired. A gallon of gas weighs about 6 pounds. I'll take your word that the table is correct.
I learn lots of neat stuff on FR :)
It's about time they did this. I was wondering if they were just going to leave it there. Only a fool would do that, but nothing that comes out of Washington surprises me.
I recall an article coming out of Iraq a little over a year ago about U.S. forces, I believe Marines, finding a huge underground bunker south of Baghdad with material that was highly radioactive. This story was quickly eclipsed by ongoing events, the medias obsession with artifacts disappearing from the museum in Baghdad being one of them.
In any event, if Saddam's Iraq had this type of radioactive material why the h*** hasn't a lot more been said about it? Is the Bush administration so intimidated by the liberal media they're reluctant to make their own case when it comes to a story like this? If they are, and that appears to be the case, the Bush gang will be gone come November ... guaranteed.
Actually, the table states that a gallon of gasoline does have more energy than a pound of gasoline.
1.3x10^8 is greater than 2.2x10^7.
and (1.3x10^8)/(2.2x10^7) = 5.90909
IOW, a gallon of gas has about 6 times as much energy as does a pound of gas. This appears to validate the info in the table, if, as you say, a gallon of gas weighs about 6 pounds.
rllngrk33:Thanks, now I know how much a gallon of gas weighs.
I learn lots of neat stuff on FR :)
(Before reading this thread, I too didn't know how much a gallon of gas weighs.)
Thanks, thats why I wrote the disclaimer in my original post. I have and use a lot of practicle knowledge. I am a pipefitter/Boilermaker. I have never needed higher algebra math in my job and I have never pursued it.
Interesting chart. Thanks!
Great turn of phrase!
(Makes me nostalgic for growing up in Cleveland though.)
Hey, look at that, exactly 2000 times as much!!!
To the IAEA: We don't need your permission, you incompetent bureaucratic idiot, the U.S. is merely informing you of what is going to happen.
The Libyans and North Koreans cared ... cared enough to be arranging for nuclear development to be done in Libya for Saddam and the North Koreans would provide the 'refined' uranium for bombs. Saddam found he could not continue to operate a nuclear program in Iraq. Had we not 'deposed' Saddam, the Libyan dictator would not have decided to stop all WMD pursuits and open up his books ... and perhaps the Israelis would not have had to destroy the North Korean missiles being shipped to Syria. Who knows ...
On behalf of the "nuclear free city" of Santa Cruz, California, I'd like to extend a warm and friendly invitation to the National Nuclear Security Administration to store their hundreds of tons of Iraqi uranium here.
Since even sewer rats have contributed more to the greatness of America than the socialist pukes of Santa Cruz have, it's the very least we can do.
A picture says a thousand words, especially when we are dealing with something on such an abstract scale like Joules. The power of the atom is quite remarkable.
Some questions about the Iraqi uranium:
1) How much weapons grade material could they make with the 500 tons of raw material they possessed (best/worst case scenario based on the purity of the raw ore)?
2) How long would it have taken them to enrich that much ore, given what we know about the number of "rocket casings" in their possession?
Comment: Perhaps the liberal/leftists don't believe this uranium ore, nor the machinery to process it, constitutes a WMD or threat thereof because the Iraqis had no mechanism for delivery (clearly delivery would have been impossible because the IAEA would never have allowed the Iraqis to "transport" this material outside their country).
Nope no WMDs of the dirty bomb type here. Move along.
This is old news and much of this stuff was purchased from Niger in the 1980s. Anyone who has examined this issue knows that the UN had it all inventoried years ago.
There was tons of it and enough to make hundreds of dirty bombs.
Of course, RATmedia silence about this has been deafening.
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