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ESPN SCRUBS HUNTER S. THOMPSON BUSH BASH
Drudge Report ^ | 5/24/04 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 05/24/2004 7:27:35 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
Freakin' amazing, Thompson is enjoying a mind meld with Andy Rooney!

Senile mofos!

51 posted on 05/24/2004 8:52:14 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: wagglebee
As with the original, Thompson still concludes with the thought: "Now I am really ashamed to carry an American passport."

Dude! That's not a passport, it's... A HUMAN HAND!!!!

52 posted on 05/24/2004 9:00:41 PM PDT by Imal (I am sure "Fahrenheit 9/11" is as fine a film as this year's Cannes jury is capable of appreciating.)
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To: wagglebee; Klaus D. Deore
Related piece on Thompson.
Probably deserves its own thread, but it's late and I'm off to read...

J. Lileks on Hunter Thompson:


Watched “Gangster No. 1,” because I have a peculiar affinity for 1960s British gangster movies. Tawdry men in good suits plotting small crimes in cramped flats. The cursing is somehow fresher, because it’s done with a different accent than your tiresome standard Jersey voice. Instead of fuggin’ it’s FACKIN’, which just sounds crisper. Fack me! Basic plot: something quite novel for the gangster genre, really. A young up-and-coming thug tries to move up the food chain and take his boss’ place. Because he’s lean and hungry, you see! Also 78% more psychotic. But here’s the peculiar - dare I say British – twist. He has a mad crush on the boss. He’s almost swoony over the guy.

A few reviewers noted that there seemed to be a repressed homoerotic subtext, and I thought: repressed? Okay, let’s recap. The young gangster is introduced to the boss, and the voice-over describes him entirely in terms of his clothing, and ends with the words “he was all man” as we first see the boss’s face. And the boss looks like someone you’d see in an 80s band where everyone had white suits and carefully feathered hair. It’s David Thewliss – fine actor (I also saw him in “Timeline” where he also played an unsympathetic prig) but he gives off no mob-man menace whatsoever. At one point the up-and-coming gangster comments on the Boss’s tie pin; the Boss gives it to him. It has his initials. Our hero treats the moment with such reverence you’d think he’d gotten the football captain’s class ring. We’re going steady!

If they’d played up the angle a little more, it would have made the movie much more interesting. The Sopranos has a gay-gangster sub-sub plot going - not that I’ll know how that turns out tonight, because I’m editing this bilge I wrote Saturday. There’s a big gap in what I banged out, because I obviously lost my train of thought and googled Hunter Thompson Children to see if he did have kids. I got a column from 2003 from his ESPN gig. No link because I nuked the history and emptied the cache. But I have these quotes from Duke circa last summer, a prime example of what Neal Tennant calls "Miserabilism":

The U.S. Treasury is empty, we are losing that stupid, fraudulent chickencrap War in Iraq, and every country in the world except a handful of Corrupt Brits despises us. We are losers, and that is the one unforgiveable sin in America.

Beyond that, we have lost the respect of the world and lost two disastrous wars in three years. Afghanistan is lost, Iraq is a permanent war Zone, our national Economy is crashing all around us, the Pentagon's "war strategy" has failed miserably, nobody has any money to spend, and our once-mighty U.S. America is paralyzed by Mutinies in Iraq and even Fort Bragg.

The American nation is in the worst condition I can remember in my lifetime, and our prospects for the immediate future are even worse. I am surprised and embarrassed to be a part of the first American generation to leave the country in far worse shape than it was when we first came into it. Our highway system is crumbling, our police are dishonest, our children are poor, our vaunted Social Security, once the envy of the world, has been looted and neglected and destroyed by the same gang of ignorant greed-crazed bastards who brought us Vietnam, Afghanistan, the disastrous Gaza Strip and ignominious defeat all over the world.

The Stock Market will never come back, our Armies will never again be No. 1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of our lives.

The Bush family must be very proud of themselves today, but I am not. Big Darkness, soon come. Take my word for it.

That’s what what this addled has-been was writing last summer. I love much of his early stuff – at his peak, he was the best fiction writer journalism had. But this is college-paper stuff. “Our highway system is crumbling, our police are dishonest, our children are poor.” And our aspirin bottles are hard to open and our dogs are stupid and our fries are too fattening and our parking lots are striped in such a way that today’s wider vehicles fill out the spaces, making it difficult to avoid getting a door ding, and our TV newspeople smile too much and our royalty checks are getting smaller and smaller as the newer ESPN website readers read this stuff and think, whatever, gramps instead of buying the books. To repeat:

“our vaunted Social Security, once the envy of the world, has been looted and neglected and destroyed by the same gang of ignorant greed-crazed bastards who brought us Vietnam, Afghanistan, the disastrous Gaza Strip and ignominious defeat all over the world."

How true! Somewhere in Tibet there’s a man who admired our Social Security system until it was looted by the greed-crazed bastards who invented the Gaza Strip. Here’s your meds, Mr. Thompson. The blue one you can chew; the yellow one just dissolves in your mouth. Don’t eat the cup this time.

The Stock Market will never come back, our Armies will never again be No. 1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of our lives. The Bush family must be very proud of themselves today, but I am not. Big Darkness, soon come. Take my word for it.

Of course in Thompson’s world the Big Darkness is always coming. Every day it doesn’t come means it’ll just be bigger and darker when it finally arrives. He’s the anti-rooster, bitching about the dawn: sure, it worked today, but one of these days the sun won’t come up, and then where will you be? Sitting on your nest popping out eggs like THEY want you to, completely unprepared for the Big Darkness! Which will be huge! And dark!

It would be funny if it was, well, funny, but it’s not even that. It’s just rote spew from the other side of the latter sixties. You had your Hopeful Hippies, the face-painters and daisy-strewers, convinced that human nature and human history could be irrevocably changed if we all held hands, listened to “Imagine” and realized that the war is not the answer. Regardless of the question. But the other side was the sort of dank twitchy nihilism Thompson spouts. It has no lessons, no morals, no hope. Imagine, Winston, that the future consists of a boot pressing on a face. Here’s the worst part, Winston – inside the boot is NIXON’S FOOT.

Thompson has less hope than the Islamists; at least they have an afterlife to look forward to. All we have is a country so rotten and exhausted it’s not worth defending. It never was, of course, but it’s even less defensible now than before.

He can say what he wants. Drink what he wants. Drive where he wants. Do what he wants. He’s done okay in America. And he hates this country. Hates it. This appeals to high school kids and collegiate-aged students getting that first hot eye-crossing hit from the Screw Dad pipe, but it’s rather pathetic in aged moneyed authors. And it would be irrelevant if this same spirit didn't infect on whom Hunter S. had an immense influence. He's the guy who made nihilism hip. He's the guy who taught a generation that the only thing you should believe is this: don't trust anyone who believes anything. He's the patron saint of journalism, whether journalists know it or not.


53 posted on 05/24/2004 9:03:11 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: weegee

He quit after the media blew up at him for saying Donovan McNabb was overrated because the media wanted a successful black QB.

In other words, a hell of a lot less inflammatory.


54 posted on 05/24/2004 9:25:01 PM PDT by baseballfanjm (The Boston Red Sox, 2004 World Series Champs (I'm praying!))
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To: Howlin; mcmuffin
"...Hunter Thompson has done more drugs than any person on the face of the earth, living OR dead..."

That may be true. Help me here, Dave............FRegards


55 posted on 05/24/2004 9:42:06 PM PDT by gonzo (I support a womans' right to choose!......."So, what are they? Silicone or Saline?")
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To: wagglebee

bttt


56 posted on 05/25/2004 5:32:20 AM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Take no prisoners. Shoot 'em in the desert and you have no prisoner abuse.)
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To: wagglebee
As with the original, Thompson still concludes with the thought: "Now I am really ashamed to carry an American passport."

Well darlin',
I am ashamed that you carry one too!

57 posted on 05/25/2004 7:14:46 AM PDT by najida (Who said I could spell? My fingers are faster than my brain.)
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To: wagglebee

Sent to the ESPN editor...

In Hunter S. Thompson's article titled "Let's Go To The Olympics" he wrote, "Now I am really ashamed to carry an American passport." Would you please remind him that he doesn't have to? Americans don't have to "defect," we can leave and change nationalities any time we want. I would also like Hunter to tell us WHOSE passport he would rather carry. Oh, never mind, he is just being a Trendy-American-Hater. He won't care what I think, or respect the 99.999996% of his countrymen that DIDN’T EMBARRASS OR ABUSE ANY OF THOSE TERRORIST, ANTI-AMERICAN, ANTI-DEMOCRAY, ANTI-FREEDOM MURDERERS! Remember, those sub-humans weren’t in Abu-Ghraib for unpaid parking tickets.

When only 20-30 out of 3,000,000 people do something wrong, should we publicly declared that we are "ashamed" of everyone? If that is the case, then should we be “ashamed” of any society in which more than 00.000000008% of their population has been accused of crimes? This is ridiculous!

When he refers to the abuse as “the American dream in action,” he even insults generations of good people whom have carved out the most free and fair society the world has ever known. I’m sure that more than one of his ancestors are rolling over in their graves right now.

I don’t believe that you should continue to pay him to publish his "dribble." I didn’t ask for this political anti-American smear from a “sports” organization. He is allowed to voice any opinion that he wants, but you have the choice of whether or not to PAY HIM TO PUBLISH IT! – Shame on you!

P.s. I noticed that your credits state that he “now lives in a fortified compound near Aspen.” That brings up many more questions…


58 posted on 05/25/2004 9:03:01 AM PDT by boomswing (Letter sent to the editor...)
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To: boomswing

Great letter.

HST wrote a book back in 1992 about the presidential campaign. I do not remember the name of it. It was actually funny in places. His motto for Clinton at the time was: "He may be swine but at least he's our swine". I actually think he felt uncomfortable with Clinton because he was, gosh, just a little too conservative for him.

"Hitching Stump" was a story about how Clinton was introduced to the joys of copulation by a mule by the name of Stump. HST swears that there is some factual basis for it. He also wrote a story about how Clinton almost mistook a new reed for his saxaphone for a potato chip and ate it.

Heady stuff. Strictly satire, you know.


59 posted on 05/25/2004 9:26:03 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (42 muscles to frown, 17 muscles to smile, but 0 muscles just to sit there and look dumb.)
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To: Constitution Day
Probably deserves its own thread ...

Definitely. Hope you'll do the honors.

61 posted on 06/12/2004 12:19:44 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Texas Eagle
Good pics - but I remember seeing pics with stacks and stacks of bones and those of the emaciated prisoners.

Apparently Thompson does not remember those.


His comparison is despicable. And one last thing - going out on a limb here - if we can save one soldier - by putting panties on some a$$hole's head - I'll go with the panties. I'm still considering whether shoving glow sticks up their butts is wrong. That's a tough call ... ;-)

62 posted on 06/12/2004 1:44:54 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Have a nice day or else!)
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To: dighton

I'll be glad to. Did a troll get the ZOT @ #60?


63 posted on 06/14/2004 5:27:19 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Burger Eating War Monkey)
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To: Constitution Day
This appeals to high school kids and collegiate-aged students getting that first hot eye-crossing hit from the Screw Dad pipe,...

Good line.

64 posted on 06/14/2004 5:38:00 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: wagglebee
ESPN gave Hunter S. (the Nazi's weren't that bad) Thompson a pass whereas Rush Limbaugh lost his sports commentator job.
65 posted on 06/15/2004 1:06:27 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: mhkingsmother

Oh, I guess I hit a dumbf***'s nerve. Boo-hoo...


68 posted on 06/16/2004 2:04:55 PM PDT by mhking
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To: ConservativeMan55

Don't do that again.


70 posted on 06/18/2004 4:17:38 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: wagglebee

"Now I am really ashamed to carry an American passport."

Awwwww....

Then why doesn't he go somewhere else and get a different one?


71 posted on 06/18/2004 4:20:06 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: wagglebee

Without intoxicants he'd be an unknown.


72 posted on 06/18/2004 4:22:25 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Texas Eagle

Thank you for those pictures. It really puts things into perspective... for most sane people, at least.

I am getting so tired of the Abu Graib stuff. And I was one of the people that was upset at first.

But really, these people's hatred for GW is so great that there is no perspective. Panties on the head? Making fun of their bodies?

That's child's play compared to gassing people to death, beheading them, etc.

Like I said to a friend of mine today: we always take the high road, and our enemies always take the low road. Yet we are criticized if there is a stumble or two (Abu Ghraib "atrocities!") on the way up.


73 posted on 06/18/2004 4:25:23 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Howlin; All
"The drugs Ozzie and Keith Richard have done are literally chump change compared to Hunter; he's a professional."

No Kidding! True story...

John Belushi once spent three days on a binge with HST. He was found wandering the road outside of Thompson's house, nose bloody, drunk, and with his beard caked with white powder, thumbing a ride.

When a couple picked him up, he pointed at Thompson's house and said, "I just can't keep up with that guy!"

74 posted on 06/18/2004 4:33:01 PM PDT by Long Cut (Certainty of Death, small chance of Success...What are we waiting for?...Gimli the Dwarf)
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To: Constitution Day

I was wondering where he was going with the gay gangsters thing....

I like Lileks. I need to read him more.


75 posted on 06/18/2004 4:36:39 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: Cubu Ashiru
The conscience of a nation will always drive fear & loathing into the hearts & minds of those that have No Ears...

LOL!!

76 posted on 06/18/2004 4:43:36 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: proud American in Canada

I'm sure France would love to have him.


77 posted on 06/18/2004 5:24:51 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: Admin Moderator

I forget what I did? Thats been a long time ago?


78 posted on 06/18/2004 6:12:09 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: wagglebee

The appeal of Hunter S. Thompson and his writing totally allude me. I plodded through his book "Better Than Sex," waiting for some flash of brilliance or insight. I got neither. "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" wasn't worth the ink used to write his drivel.


80 posted on 06/20/2004 4:33:39 PM PDT by LanPB01
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To: Goebelles; Admin Moderator

Clean up needed on aisle 5


83 posted on 06/21/2004 4:04:22 AM PDT by Gabz (RIP President Ronald W. Reagan 1911-2004)
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To: wagglebee
"Hunter can go too far sometimes," the Bristol-based ESPN employee told the DRUDGE REPORT.

If that's how he FEELS, that's how he FEELS. Why the need to clean it up? The whole point of HST is that he's "gonzo."

It is a darn shame he doesn't have the moral perspective to put the Abu Ghraib torture in context: in no way does it come close to the Holocaust by any reasonable measure. Even American troops did far worse during WWII.

84 posted on 06/21/2004 4:13:48 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: weegee

Okay, I'm going out on a limb here, perhaps playing devil's advocate, or whatever, but then again, maybe not.
HST and everyone on this site knows that the USA is the world's greatest nation. Since the collapse of the USSR, the US has simply been forced into the role of Leading The World into the future, whether it wants to go or not. In our role as The World's Greatest, perhaps Hunter was dismayed in the concept that the photos revealed that our standards of dealing with the enemy were lower than great, progressive, or wise. Just a thought.


85 posted on 06/28/2004 1:13:28 PM PDT by InTheWeeds
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To: InTheWeeds
Why not compare them to attrocities committed by the US in Vietnam? Why not compare them to the atomic bombing of Japan?

The Nazis committed some REALLY horrible attrocities. This is hardly comparable.

86 posted on 06/28/2004 1:34:26 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: weegee

I could not agree with you more, personally.
On its face, it's a stupid statement. But I have noticed that Thompson more often than not, writes not to express, but to force the reader into engagement. I'm wondering if this was simply another example of forcing the hand of the reader--If the US is the greatest, (and I believe this is true), why are policies with dealing with dangerous prisoners so underdeveloped? I know it's a stretch here, but I'm having a hard time believing HST suffers from complete mental collapse.


87 posted on 06/30/2004 3:03:41 PM PDT by InTheWeeds
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To: wagglebee
These horrifying digital snapshots of the American dream in action on foreign soil are worse than anything even I could have expected

Sissy boy was never in a fraternity.

89 posted on 12/16/2004 6:18:25 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: weegee
If you read Hunter's columns, you will find that quite often he bets on the losing team.

He was on the McGovern bandwagon in '72.

90 posted on 12/16/2004 6:20:46 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: InvisibleChurch

Yeah, Hitler killed six million Jews, but hey, at least he didn't put panties on their heads. ><


91 posted on 12/16/2004 6:29:18 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: wagglebee
Not even the foulest atrocities of Adolf Hitler

It's getting harder and harder for these lame columnist to over-hype their work. It's like a competition, if I say the devil times ten, you say the devil times twenty. These mediocre writers are trying to sensationalize their way to
top of their profession. It's the shock jock mentality.
92 posted on 12/16/2004 6:30:38 AM PST by oldbrowser (You lost the election.....................Get over it.)
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To: wagglebee

So let me get this straight: Rush Limbaugh saying Donovan McNabb was overrated by the liberal media was too controversial for ESPN, but Hunter S. Thompson is A-OK.


93 posted on 12/16/2004 6:34:49 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: AppyPappy

FWIW, since this thread has come back from the past, I looked over the recent posts....

InTheWeeds who joined up 6/28 and played devil's advocate in agreeing with Hunter, to a degree, has not posted ANYTHING to FR since that day.

Moby troll? Hard to say...


94 posted on 12/16/2004 9:44:00 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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