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How Chinagate Led to 9/11
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 5/25/04 | Jean Pearce

Posted on 05/25/2004 1:31:02 AM PDT by kattracks

As the 9/11 Commission tries to uncover what kept intelligence agencies from preventing September 11, it has overlooked two vital factors: Jamie Gorelick and Bill Clinton. Gorelick, who has browbeaten the current administration, helped erect the walls between the FBI, CIA and local investigators that made 9/11 inevitable. However, she was merely expanding the policy Bill Clinton established with Presidential Decision Directive 24. What has been little underreported is why the policy came about: to thwart investigations into the Chinese funding of Clinton’s re-election campaign, and the favors he bestowed on them in return.

In April, CNSNews.com staff writer Scott Wheeler reported that a senior U.S. government official and three other sources claimed that the 1995 memo written by Jamie Gorelick, who served as the Clinton Justice Department’s deputy attorney general from 1994 to 1997, created "a roadblock" to the investigation of illegal Chinese donations to the Democratic National Committee. But the picture is much bigger than that. The Gorelick memo, which blocked intelligence agents from sharing information that could have halted the September 11 hijacking plot, was only the mortar in a much larger maze of bureaucratic walls whose creation Gorelick personally oversaw.

It’s a story the 9/11 Commission may not want to hear, and one that Gorelick – now incredibly a member of that commission – has so far refused to tell. But it is perhaps the most crucial one to understanding the intentional breakdown of intelligence that led to the September 11 disaster.

Nearly from the moment Gorelick took office in the Clinton Justice Department, she began acting as the point woman for a large-scale bureaucratic reorganization of intelligence agencies that ultimately placed the gathering of intelligence, and decisions about what – if anything – would be done with it. This entire operation was under near-direct control of the White House. In the process, more than a dozen CIA and FBI investigations underway at the time got caught beneath the heel of the presidential boot, investigations that would ultimately reveal massive Chinese espionage as millions in illegal Chinese donations filled Democratic Party campaign coffers.

When Gorelick took office in 1994, the CIA was reeling from the news that a Russian spy had been found in CIA ranks, and Congress was hungry for a quick fix. A month after Gorelick was sworn in, Bill Clinton issued Presidential Decision Directive 24. PDD 24 put intelligence gathering under the direct control of the president’s National Security Council, and ultimately the White House, through a four-level, top-down chain of command set up to govern (that is, stifle) intelligence sharing and cooperation between intelligence agencies. From the moment the directive was implemented, intelligence sharing became a bureaucratic nightmare that required negotiating a befuddling bureaucracy that stopped directly at the President’s office.

First, the directive effectively neutered the CIA by creating a National Counterintelligence Center (NCI) to oversee the Agency. NCI was staffed by an FBI agent appointed by the Clinton administration. It also brought multiple international investigations underway at the time under direct administrative control. The job of the NCI was to “implement counterintelligence activities,” which meant that virtually everything the CIA did, from a foreign intelligence agent’s report to polygraph test results, now passed through the intelligence center that PDD 24 created.

NCI reported to an administration-appointed National Counterintelligence Operations Board (NCOB) charged with “discussing counterintelligence matters.” The NCOB in turn reported to a National Intelligence Policy Board, which coordinated activities between intelligence agencies attempting to work together. The policy board reported “directly” to the president through the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs.

The result was a massive bureaucratic roadblock for the CIA – which at the time had a vast lead on the FBI in foreign intelligence – and for the FBI itself, which was also forced to report to the NCOB. This hampered cooperation between the two entities. All this occurred at a time when both agencies were working separate ends of investigations that would eventually implicate China in technology transfers and the Democratic Party in a Chinese campaign cash grab.

And the woman charged with selling this plan to Congress, convince the media and ultimately implement much of it? Jamie Gorelick.

Many in Congress, including some Democrats, found the changes PDD 24 put in place baffling: they seemed to do nothing to insulate the CIA from infiltration while devastating the agency’s ability to collect information. At the time, Democrat House Intelligence Chairman Dan Glickman referred to the plan as “regulatory gobbledygook." Others questioned how FBI control of CIA intelligence would foster greater communication between the lower levels of the CIA and FBI, now that all information would have to be run through a multi-tier bureaucratic maze that only went upward.

Despite their doubts, Gorelick helped the administration sell the plan on Capitol Hill. The Directive stood.

But that wasn’t good enough for the Clinton administration, which wanted control over every criminal and intelligence investigation, domestic and foreign, for reasons that would become apparent in a few years. For the first time in Justice Department history, a political appointee, Richard Scruggs – an old crony or Attorney General Janet Reno’s from Florida – was put in charge of the Office of Intelligence and Policy Review (OIPR). OIPR is the Justice Department agency in charge of requesting wiretap and surveillance authority for criminal and intelligence investigations on behalf of investigative agencies from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court. The court’s activities are kept secret from the public.

A year after PDD 24, with the new bureaucratic structure loaded with administration appointees, Gorelick drafted the 1995 memo Attorney General John Ashcroft mentioned while testifying before the 9/11 Commission. The Gorelick memo, and other supporting memos released in recent weeks, not only created walls within the intelligence agencies that prevented information sharing among their own agents, but effectively walled these agencies off from each other and from outside contact with the U.S. prosecutors instrumental in helping them gather the evidence needed to make the case for criminal charges.

The only place left to go with intelligence information – particularly for efforts to share intelligence information or obtain search warrants – was straight up Clinton and Gorelick’s multi-tiered chain of command. Instead, information lethal to the Democratic Party languished inside the Justice Department, trapped behind Gorelick’s walls.

The implications were enormous. In her letter of protest to Attorney General Reno over Gorelick’s memo, United States Attorney Mary Jo White spelled them out: “These instructions leave entirely to OIPR and the (Justice Department) Criminal Division when, if ever, to contact affected U.S. attorneys on investigations including terrorism and espionage,” White wrote. (Like OIPR, the Criminal Division is also part of the Justice Department.)

Without an enforcer, the walls might Gorelick’s memo put in place might not have held. But Scruggs acted as that enforcer, and he excelled at it. Scruggs maintained Gorelick’s walls between the FBI and Justice's Criminal Division by threatening to automatically reject any FBI request for a wiretap or search warrant if the Bureau contacted the Justice Department's Criminal Division without permission. This deprived the FBI, and ultimately the CIA, of gathering advice and assistance from the Criminal Division that was critical in espionage and terrorist cases.

It is no coincidence that this occurred at the same time both the FBI and the CIA were churning up evidence damaging to the Democratic Party, its fundraisers, the Chinese and ultimately the Clinton administration itself. Between 1994 and the 1996 election, as Chinese dollars poured into Democratic coffers, Clinton struggled to reopen high-tech trade to China. Had agents confirmed Chinese theft of weapons technology or its transfer of weapons technology to nations like Pakistan, Iran and Syria, Clinton would have been forced by law and international treaty to react.

Gorelick’s appointment to the job at Justice in 1994 occurred during a period in which the FBI had begun to systematically investigate technology theft by foreign powers. For the first time, these investigations singled out the U.S. chemical, telecommunications, aircraft and aerospace industries for intelligence collection.

By the time Gorelick wrote the March 1995 memo that sealed off American intelligence agencies from each other and the outside world, all of the most critical Chinagate investigations by American intelligence agencies were already underway. Some of their findings were damning:

In an investigation originally instigated by the CIA, the FBI was beginning its search for the source of the leak of W-88 nuclear warhead technology to China among the more than 1,000 people who had access to the secrets. Despite Justice Department stonewalling and the Department’s refusal to seek wiretap authority in 1997, the investigation eventually led to Wen Ho Lee and the Los Alamos National Laboratory. The FBI first collected Extensive evidence in 1995 linking illegal Democratic Party donations to China, according to the Congressional Record. But Congress and the Director of the CIA didn’t find out about the Justice Department’s failure to act upon that evidence until 1997, safely after the 1996 election. According to classified CIA documents leaked to the Washington Times, between 1994 and 1997, the CIA learned that China sold Iran missile technology, a nuclear fission reactor, advanced air-defense radar and chemical agents. The Chinese also provided 5,000 ring magnets to Pakistan, used in producing weapons-grade uranium. The Chinese also provided uranium fuel for India's reactors.

In many cases the CIA resorting to leaking classified information to the media, in an effort to bypass the administration’s blackout.

Gorelick knew these facts well. While Clinton may have refused to meet with top CIA officials, Gorelick didn’t. According to a 1996 report by the legal news service American Lawyer Media, Gorelick and then-Deputy Director of the CIA George Tenet met every other week to discuss intelligence and intelligence sharing.

But those in the Clinton administration weren’t the only ones to gain from the secrecy. In 1994, the McDonnell Douglas Corporation transferred military-use machine tools to the China National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corporation that ended up in the hands of the Chinese army. The sale occurred despite Defense Department objections. McDonnell Douglas was a client of the Miller Cassidy Larroca & Lewin, L.L.P. (now called Baker Botts), the Washington, D.C., law firm where Gorelick worked for 17 years and was a partner. Ray Larroca, another partner in the firm, represented McDonnell in the Justice Department’s investigation of the technology transfer.

In 1995, General Electric, a former client of Gorelick’s, also had much to lose if the damaging information the CIA and the FBI had reached Congress. At the time, GE was publicly lobbying for a lucrative permit to assist the Chinese in replacing coal-fired power stations with nuclear plants. A 1990 law required that the president certify to Congress that China was not aiding in nuclear proliferation before U.S. companies could execute the business agreement.

Moreover, in 1995, Michael Armstrong, then the CEO of Hughes Electronics – a division of General Electric and another client of Miller Cassidy Larroca & Lewin – was publicly lobbying Clinton to switch satellite export controls from the State Department to the Commerce Department. After the controls were lifted, Hughes and another company gave sensitive data to the Chinese, equipment a Pentagon study later concluded would allow China to develop intercontinental and submarine-launched ballistic missiles aimed at American targets. Miller Cassidy Larroca & Lewin partner Randall Turk represented Hughes in the Congressional, State Department, and Justice Department investigations that resulted.

The Cox Report, which detailed Chinese espionage for Congress during the period, revealed that FBI surveillance caught Chinese officials frantically trying to keep Democratic donor Johnny Chung from divulging any information that would be damaging to Hughes Electronics. Chung funneled $300,000 in illegal contributions from the Chinese military to the DNC between 1994 and 1996.

It was this web of investigations that led Gorelick and Bill Clinton to erect the wall between intelligence agencies that resulted in the toppling of the Twin Towers. The connections go on and on, but they all lead back to Gorelick, the one person who could best explain how the Clinton administration neutered the American intelligence agencies that could have stopped the September 11 plot. Yet another high crime will have been committed if the September 11 Commission doesn’t demand testimony from her. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hillarygate; stophillary

1 posted on 05/25/2004 1:31:02 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Wow


2 posted on 05/25/2004 1:35:10 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: kattracks

The laughingstock "9-11 Commission" has no interest in pursuing this angle. Sure, it goes to the very heart of the matter but it reflects badly on (commission member) Jamie Gorelick as well as the Clinton administration. And that's off limits - - forget about it.


3 posted on 05/25/2004 1:37:23 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: kattracks
Yet another high crime will have been committed if the September 11 Commission doesn't demand testimony from her.

You can count on it going exactly that way. Clinton is a demon wearing a human skin. He is immune from real consequences in this world.
4 posted on 05/25/2004 1:40:02 AM PDT by broadsword (Liberalism is the societal AIDS virus, that helps our enemies to kill us.)
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To: kattracks

BTTT


5 posted on 05/25/2004 1:41:18 AM PDT by jamaly
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To: backhoe
(( ping ))

The link for this thread has been added to GORELICK GATE: Developing...

6 posted on 05/25/2004 1:42:23 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: kattracks
This is EXACTLY why we should NEVER let Hillary Rodham Clinton near the White House!!! I can guarantee you that she had her fingerprints all over this!

Richard Scruggs was a small time lawyer until he began gathering plaintiffs into class action suits against the asbestos industry. His success in those cases led him directly to tobacco. It was his net worth -- over $9 million dollars -- that he floated to start the war on Big Tobacco in the form of the Mississippi case against the industry. He then joined with Mike Moore in convincing other states to join the battle.

7 posted on 05/25/2004 1:46:30 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Lancey Howard

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

Tel: 202-331-4060
Fax: 202-296-5545

info@9-11Commission.gov


8 posted on 05/25/2004 1:50:17 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Lancey Howard
Thanks-


9 posted on 05/25/2004 1:54:00 AM PDT by backhoe (--30--)
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To: kattracks

If we had a real watchdog media protecting the people, this story would have been making daily newspaper, magazine, and network news headlines a long time ago. Instead it's buried, while the lamestream press makes much ado about a handful of Iraqi terrorists who were "humiliated" by a few stupid Army Reservists.

The self-esteem of the terrorists being so much more important than the root-cause of thousands of American deaths in the worst attack on US soil.

Oh yeah, I forgot: it was Bush's fault.


10 posted on 05/25/2004 1:55:38 AM PDT by SpyGuy
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To: Lancey Howard

Silly me....

I had somehow assumed that with Republicans in control of all three branches of government that the scabs would be ripped off all the putrid sores resulting from the Clinton administration's crimes.

I guess the FBI files Hillary managed to steal and keep have kept too many incumbents paralyzed in fear.

Sometimes I wonder if America deserves to win anymore. Maybe our government IS as corrupt as the other nations in the world tend to paint us.


11 posted on 05/25/2004 2:02:10 AM PDT by Ronin (We are in a war. The enemy is Islam. It's time we stopped pretending otherwise.)
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To: kattracks

Bump for later morning read.

Looks like good stuff


12 posted on 05/25/2004 2:02:54 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: kattracks

Bump


13 posted on 05/25/2004 2:15:27 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: SpyGuy

...If we had a real watchdog media protecting the people, this story would have been making daily newspaper,
magazine, and network news headlines a long time ago. Instead it's buried, while the lamestream press makes
much ado about a handful of Iraqi terrorists who were "humiliated" by a few stupid Army Reservists...


Exactly right.


14 posted on 05/25/2004 3:36:45 AM PDT by Sabatier
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To: kattracks

bump


15 posted on 05/25/2004 4:14:58 AM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: Sabatier

Hey guys: The old geezer here. Remember Senator Inhofe's speech before the Senate at that time. He brought it all out. accusing Clinton of espionage, treason and being a spy for China. I would post it but don't know how. That speech was made while all of this was going on. It got no where then, so why now.


16 posted on 05/25/2004 4:31:35 AM PDT by Stretch (Stretch: The Old Geezer from Apple Va. Cal and Cumming Ga. (God's Country.) Long Live America!!)
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To: Stretch

Here is something I found that claims to connect China to 9/11. It is called Unrestricted Warfare and was written in 1999. It is suppose to be a textbook (written by the Chinese on how to defeat the US)

http://www.terrorism.com/documents/TRC-analysis/unrestricted.pdf


17 posted on 05/25/2004 5:39:45 AM PDT by PersonalLiberties (...)
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To: kattracks

Bump.

The Clintons have done lasting damage to this country. I don't know if we'll ever really recover.


18 posted on 05/25/2004 7:02:53 AM PDT by iceskater (No nation or state ever taxed itself into prosperity.)
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To: kattracks

BUMP.


19 posted on 05/25/2004 10:32:01 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: kattracks; All

Has PDD 24 been superceded during the Bush Administration? (patriot act, maybe)


20 posted on 05/25/2004 10:42:37 AM PDT by no more apples (God Bless our troops)
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To: kattracks

This is a very damning article. It's just incredible that Gorelick is on the commission.


21 posted on 05/25/2004 10:46:48 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Stretch

Yep, Inhofe did lay it all out on the floor of the Senate......then the propeller on his airplane fell off in mid-flight.


22 posted on 05/25/2004 10:49:12 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: kattracks

Bump


23 posted on 05/25/2004 10:54:47 AM PDT by FranklinsTower
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To: kattracks

The two most explosive stories never reported:

1. Clinton selling our national security and nuclear secrets to China for campaign cash.

2. Clinton Raping Jaunita Broderick.

Just imagine the frenzy that would ensue if a credible female businesswoman accused George W. Bush of Rape.

Or if evidence surfaced that George W. Bush had sold intelligence to China.


24 posted on 05/25/2004 11:00:22 AM PDT by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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To: iceskater

"The Clintons have done lasting damage to this country. I don't know if we'll ever really recover."

As long as Hillary Clinton stays OUT of the WH, we at least have a chance!


25 posted on 05/25/2004 11:56:57 AM PDT by Maria S ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm."George W. Bush 1/20/01)
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To: broadsword
"Clinton is a demon wearing a human skin. He is immune from real consequences in this world."

It's not totally the fault of X42.

We watched as the subversive, socialistic media went into orgiastic extacy the night he was elected back in 1992. We knew right then that X42 was "their boy," and beginning with Dan Blather grovelling at Bill and Hillary's feet just before the inauguration to the fawning admiration they got from their compatriots in congress, that the media would never let anything out that put those two in a bad light.

26 posted on 05/25/2004 12:05:58 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Stretch
Allow me, sir.

CHINA’S THEFT OF NUCLEAR SECRETS Senate Floor Statement U.S. Senator James M. Inhofe (R - Oklahoma)

27 posted on 05/25/2004 12:18:42 PM PDT by Quilla (God bless America, President George W. Bush, our brave troops, and Freepers everywhere.)
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To: Quilla

Great info once again here on the Freep Network...
Is it permissable to send out copies of this to the local/national news outlets???
Or is that a bad idea???
Just so sick of the real news not getting to see the light of day!!!


28 posted on 05/25/2004 7:45:39 PM PDT by FlashBack (USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA..USA...USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: FlashBack; Howlin; OXENinFLA

I would hope that if proper sourcing and credit is included, we should be able to forward this incredibly enlightening article to local news outlets. Frankly, this is one of the biggest bombshells with respect to the 9/11 Commission, Clinton, and Gorelick I've read to date. I'm somewhat saddened to see that the thread has received so few replies and therefore, probably little notice. I'm going to ping Howlin and OXENinFLA in the hopes they will ping their lists and expose the Gorelick, Clinton, Chinagate connection. Thanks in advance.


29 posted on 05/26/2004 5:24:30 AM PDT by Quilla (God bless America, President George W. Bush, our brave troops, and Freepers everywhere.)
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To: StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
9/11,Gorelick, Clinton, Chinagate connection.

GREAT READ!



30 posted on 05/26/2004 5:48:02 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: kattracks

BTTT


31 posted on 05/26/2004 5:57:52 AM PDT by True Capitalist
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To: kattracks

Great post, great story. I'm struck by this, though: yes, despise Gorelick and Clinton, but what about the CEOs of these companies who're chomping at the bit to sell weapons-related goods to our enemies? How patriotic is that?


32 posted on 05/26/2004 6:34:57 AM PDT by 54-46 Was My Number
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To: lodwick; Cuttnhorse; operation clinton cleanup; Servant of the 9; catpuppy; null and void; ...

Will we ever survive the Clinton years ... Ping


33 posted on 05/26/2004 6:44:45 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: broadsword
You can count on it going exactly that way. Clinton is a demon wearing a human skin. He is immune from real consequences in this world.

Nope.

34 posted on 05/26/2004 7:17:18 AM PDT by null and void (The owls are not what they seem...)
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To: broadsword

I mean nope, not immune. I agree with the first part...


35 posted on 05/26/2004 7:18:10 AM PDT by null and void (The owls are not what they seem...)
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To: null and void

Middle! Dagnabit!!! (Must. Have. Coffee...)


36 posted on 05/26/2004 7:19:11 AM PDT by null and void (The owls are not what they seem...)
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To: kattracks

Great post!!


37 posted on 05/26/2004 7:19:21 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: kattracks

38 posted on 05/26/2004 7:40:24 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: kattracks

bump


39 posted on 05/26/2004 12:43:56 PM PDT by RightWingMama
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To: kattracks

Bump and bookmark.


40 posted on 05/27/2004 8:37:13 AM PDT by TBall
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To: OXENinFLA
I just read this. The hair on the back of my neck is standing!

Will the 'lamestream depressed' pick up this story? I hope so, but I think they are much too busy bashing Bush to pursue anythiung related to the REAL STORY!

41 posted on 05/27/2004 9:21:38 AM PDT by Chieftain (To all who serve and support those who serve - thank you!)
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To: Stretch; campfollower; Alamo-Girl; jmstein7; Mia T; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Ragtime Cowgirl; ...

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In the Mid-1990's INHOFE had Congress cancel the CLINTON Waiver that would have allowed the CLINTONS to turn our U.S. Long Beach Navy Base over to the Communist Chinese for the China Army Money flowing thru the Oval Office and HILLARY's palms.

Long Beach Citizen-Activists helped him bring this end result about by taking on Friend of HILLARY Long Beach Mayor BEVERLY O'NEILLL, the City Council, the Port of Long Beach and the U.S. Navy (!!!) in court-enforced hearings ...and communications with INHOFE.


Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Veteran-Battle of the Long Beach Navy Base-1997-2000

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm

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42 posted on 05/27/2004 10:42:41 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for the ping!


43 posted on 05/27/2004 11:22:54 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: kattracks; ALOHA RONNIE

Chinagate led to 9-11

And Clinton Term III
will lead to World War III

That's the "Third Way!"


44 posted on 05/27/2004 9:22:39 PM PDT by Joy Angela (World War I, World War II, Clinton Term III - Don't let it happen!)
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To: Joy Angela

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HILLARY and TERRORISM's plan to regain the White House

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1022571/posts







.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Senate Armed Services Committee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629

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45 posted on 05/27/2004 9:39:27 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Taxman
This is why the Dims are making the BIG diversion of the Abu Grhaib thing - will the media even cover this??

PING!

46 posted on 05/28/2004 2:51:44 AM PDT by Chieftain (To all who serve and support those who serve - thank you!)
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To: Chieftain

Thanks for the ping, Chieftan.

In a righteous world, the Clintons and their syncophants would be wearing orange jump suits and infesting a Federal prison.


47 posted on 05/28/2004 4:29:29 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

America will never be safe with
Hillary "Diane Rodham" Clinton
on the prowl.

Even Dick Morris knows Hillary is desperate
to hide her true self from the media and America.

Even Dick Morris knows Hillary is Evil.


48 posted on 05/28/2004 8:49:54 PM PDT by Joy Angela (World War I, World War II, Clinton Term III - Don't let it happen!)
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To: Joy Angela

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One year ago DICK MORRIS admitted for the first time, twice, on the air that...

BILL CLINTON personally rejected 2 Offers from the Sudan to give us OSAMA bin LADEN on a Silver Platter in 1995 and 1996.

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.

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49 posted on 05/28/2004 9:07:36 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: kattracks

bttt


50 posted on 11/04/2004 3:36:23 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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