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Doctorow's Malpractice (BAM! Peggy Noonan Nails It AGAIN -- !)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 5/25/04 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 05/25/2004 3:06:09 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Did you hear about the college commencement speaker who was almost booed off the stage Sunday because his commencement address was an anti-Bush rant? The speaker was E.L. Doctorow. The college, God bless it forever, was Hofstra University on New York's Long Island.

Newsday reported that Mr. Doctorow--or, as Newsday put it in the first paragraph, "E.L. Doctorow, one of the most celebrated writers in America"--gave a 20-minute address "lambasting President George W. Bush and effectively calling him a liar." It didn't go over too well. Mr. Doctorow announced to the crowd that he himself is a storyteller. But the president too, he said in a flight of dazzling cleverness, is a storyteller. The president's stories are not so good thought "because they are not true."

(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: doctorow; liberalintolerance; liberalmediabias; peggynoonan

1 posted on 05/25/2004 3:06:11 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I am a conservative. I have spoken at three college commencements. Each time I spoke I talked about the students, and the life ahead of them, and the nature of their achievement. I spoke to them about them. I didn't tell them Jimmy Carter is a retard or Bill Clinton is a pig.

It's all right, Peggy. We already knew. :)

2 posted on 05/25/2004 3:07:18 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Peggy is a real lady. I cannot imagine her badmouthing anyone, particularly on the occasion of a commencement address.
3 posted on 05/25/2004 3:15:55 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Wow, she's hopping mad and has really outdone herself. Great work, Peggy! Get mad more often! :)


4 posted on 05/25/2004 3:41:38 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Great column. So who the heck at Hofstra actually invited this guy?


5 posted on 05/25/2004 3:47:54 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Paul_B

I can't think of two more telling examples of the division in our country. Doctorow is stuck in the 60's- Peggy grew up.


6 posted on 05/25/2004 3:53:38 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Great read! Since "money makes the world go 'round", I wonder if there will be any financial repercussions from E.L. Docktorow's diatribe.

One would think that the conservative alumni will pass when the hat is passed their way. On the other hand, perhaps the liberal alum would be more motivated to ante up. It would be interesting to hear if Hostra suffered or benefited because of Docktorow.

It would be nice to hear that the student body, their families (the one's paying the bills) and alumni demanded the resignation of those responsible. There is freedom of speech, but not freedom from the consequences of that speech.

7 posted on 05/25/2004 4:07:32 AM PDT by GBA
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Kudos to Peggy, and most of all, kudos to the students of Hofstra.


8 posted on 05/25/2004 4:18:31 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I just attended my son's graduation at Delhi, NY. The first speaker decided to use his time trying to bash Bush and was roundly booed - made me smile. What I found really interesting was how it was obvious that the guy hadn't even bothered to prepare for the address - he stumbled and mumbled and it didn't flow at all. it was a disgusting display of lack of professional courtesy.

The real irony was how he decided to talk about hubris (which he was king enough to define for those of us who didn't know it related to arrogance) and how the American government, specifically the current administration, was full of it. I couldn't help myself - after the ceremony, I sidled up beside him as he talked to a colleague and loudly declaimed the hubris of a speaker who decided to wing an address instead of taking the time to properly prepare for it. I was talking to my daughter and explained to her that some folks had no common sense or courtesy. I told her, that heaven forbid she become a Democrat, but if she did, she should always give herself and others the respect of making good arguments. Otherwise she would be rightfully thought a twit.

The guy's conversation had turned into an embarrassed silence, which I took as a complement, so I smiled at the guy and left that little area.

9 posted on 05/25/2004 4:55:12 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: trebb
#9...good one!
Good for you!!
10 posted on 05/25/2004 5:02:23 AM PDT by Guenevere (..., .Press on toward the goal!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

BUMP!


11 posted on 05/25/2004 5:04:00 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: trebb
From part of the article from the WSJ Opinion website, Peggy Noonan:

Fast Eddy Doctorow told a story at the commencement all right, and it is a story about the boorishness of the aging liberal. An old '60s radical who feels he is entitled to impose his views on this audience on this day because he's so gifted, so smart, so insightful, so very above the normal rules, agreements and traditions. And for this he will get to call himself besieged and heroic--a hero about whom stories are told!--when in fact all he did was guarantee positive personal press in the elite media, at the cost of the long suffering patience of normal people who wanted to move the tassel and throw the hat in the air.

I am a conservative. I have spoken at three college commencements. Each time I spoke I talked about the students, and the life ahead of them, and the nature of their achievement. I spoke to them about them. I didn't tell them Jimmy Carter is a retard or Bill Clinton is a pig. It would have been wrong to do that. It would have been boorish. It would have deserved boos.

Another out of the ball park hit for Peggy. This is one dynamite piece, don't fail to follow the link and read the entire piece.

12 posted on 05/25/2004 5:07:55 AM PDT by Republic
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To: xzins; Salem; Happy2BMe
I read the following paragraph and immediately "Michael Berg" came to my mind: An old '60s radical who feels he is entitled to impose his views on this audience...."

Fast Eddy Doctorow told a story at the commencement all right, and it is a story about the boorishness of the aging liberal. An old '60s radical who feels he is entitled to impose his views on this audience on this day because he's so gifted, so smart, so insightful, so very above the normal rules, agreements and traditions. And for this he will get to call himself besieged and heroic--a hero about whom stories are told!--when in fact all he did was guarantee positive personal press in the elite media, at the cost of the long suffering patience of normal people who wanted to move the tassel and throw the hat in the air.

13 posted on 05/25/2004 5:08:19 AM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (Life is uncertain. Ride your best horse first. Unknown)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Good essay. Bumpomai.


14 posted on 05/25/2004 5:15:01 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The poor stupid people of Long Island are courteous, and have respect for the views and feelings of others, and would not dream of imposing their particular views on a captive audience that has gathered to celebrate--to be happy about, to officially mark with their presence--the rather remarkable fact that one of their family studied and worked for four years, completed his courses, met all demands, and became a graduate of an American university.

This says it all.

15 posted on 05/25/2004 5:38:16 AM PDT by Born Conservative (It really sucks when your 15 minutes of fame comes AFTER you're gone...)
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To: Paul_B
Wow, she's hopping mad and has really outdone herself.

Yeah, I like the angry Peggy.

16 posted on 05/25/2004 5:44:03 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan

BUMP!!!


17 posted on 05/25/2004 6:32:08 AM PDT by walden
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To: trebb

The Bush-haters have to drag a derogatory comment about Bush into virtually every situation . . . they are truly obsessed. Here in Seattle, liberals have to tack an anti-Bush comment onto everything they say: "I went to the store today, to try to put some life into Bush's economy." Or, "Tha Mariners are performing as badly as Bush." Or, "I'm afraid to order salmon anymore, because of what Bush has done to the environment." Or, "We'd have more money for our schools, if Bush weren't using it all to blow up babies in Iraq." I get sick of it.


18 posted on 05/25/2004 7:59:48 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle

People there actually say things like that??


19 posted on 05/25/2004 8:05:46 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Steve_Seattle

I teach a class (dance) and I can count like clockwork the 'Bush-bashing' newbies who go off in the middle of class for no reason. There is an assumption made that if you are 'creative' or artistic, you must be liberal.

Not.

The arrogance makes me gag.

So it is fun to see them stand there with their mouths hanging open at this old lady in a hip scarf as they discover she is a rabid conservative. And I am not afraid to ask them "just how did you get to class, on a donkey? So shut up about this 'war for oil' BS!"

It is a fine balance, but I manage to shut them up and still get them to be regular, paying students.

he he he


20 posted on 05/25/2004 8:10:33 AM PDT by najida (Who said I could spell? My fingers are faster than my brain.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The whole event instills more confidence in me for a huge Bush win. The media is so oblivious to what the real American is feeling.

It reminds me of some NY/DC liberal elitist Newspaper publisher who remarked her complete surprise at Reagan trouncing Carter. She said all the people she knew voted for Carter. Never occurred to her that others didn't think like her.

More recently, here in Georgia it was a done deal that Roy Barnes, democrat incumbent was coasting to victory in 2002. The newspaper stories on Barnes the day before election recounted how he didn't even need to spend all the money in his war chest. He lost decisively.

I'll take the reactions of a Long Island audience over any CBSNBCABCCNN poll any day.
21 posted on 05/25/2004 8:16:45 AM PDT by Republican Red
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To: Steve_Seattle

The Bush Haters from San Diego to the Canadian border attack GW PRN because they have been getting by with it.

I refuse to allow it to happen without me responding regardless where I am.


22 posted on 05/25/2004 8:27:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What left wing lies of the media, the DNC and foreign enemies will we expose today?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Wow.

Great column.

23 posted on 05/25/2004 8:29:17 AM PDT by chs68
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

What an ass, this guy is, i went to a graduation last week where NANCY PELOSI spoke. She wasn't political and if I wasn't so jaded by her personality I would have said that it was a good speech.

Who teh hell does this jag-off think he is. 'ragtime' sucked, BTW.


24 posted on 05/25/2004 8:38:11 AM PDT by Conservomax (You eat pieces of $hit for breakfast?)
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To: Paul_B
...and manages to produce many books nobody reads in the computer age while still using a quill--

LOL
Yes, Noonan is best when angry, like her take right after the atrocities against the killed Americans in Fallujah.

25 posted on 05/25/2004 9:39:03 AM PDT by ride the whirlwind (Kerry wants to be the leader of the free world. Free for how long? - Zell Miller)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Bump! Great article.


26 posted on 05/25/2004 1:20:22 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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