Posted on 05/27/2004 2:44:49 AM PDT by weegee
Gore to Dubya: Condemn Limbaugh
May 26, 2004
Listen to Rush…
(...roll the MoveOn.org ad, Algore demanding Bush renounce Rush and all his works)
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: Just sitting here minding my own business. I'm not bothering anybody. Just doing my job here on the EIB Network, and the vice president, ex-vice president, of the Democratic Party, has demanded today that George W. Bush condemn and denounce me. (speech) We have the sound bite coming up. Greetings, my friends. Rush Limbaugh, the EIB Network and the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies. You are listening to America's most listened to and most powerful radio talk show, a program which meets and surpasses all audience expectations on a daily basis. I heard this bite during the break, folks. (Laughing)
We all just listened to it together, and we just laughed. You've got to hear this. This is a MoveOn.org event. It's here in New York at New York University. Gore and I in the same town. (Gasping.) MoveOn.org, this is the wacko bunch that is doing ads equating Bush with Hitler. Don't they have a new ad? Hang on, let me check. Move On has a new [staff interruption] Yeah. Yeah. Before we play the Gore bite, you've got to hear the audio track to the latest MoveOn.org ad, which puts an Abu Ghraib hood over the Statute of Liberty.
VOICE: (Absurd doom-and-gloom music.) They said we went to Iraq to bring American values -- democracy, liberty. But something has gone terribly wrong. (Dramatic pause) Now it's been reported that (Secretary of Defense) Donald Rumsfeld initiated the plan that encouraged the physical coercion and sexual humiliation of prisoners. [Rush laughing] Rumsfeld has endangered our soldiers and America. [sic] Why hasn't (President of the United States) George (W.) Bush fired this man?
RUSH: (Laughing.) So that's their latest commercial, and I haven't seen it, but apparently during one of the darkest moments of that commercial is where a hood, an Abu Ghraib hood, is placed over (laughing) the Statue of Liberty. That's what I meant earlier about these people kind of going a little too far. They're really going to persuade people with this. So anyway at their big event, a big shindig out there here in New York at New York University, former vice president Al Gore -- I guess (EIB Chief of Staff) H.R. is right. I guess I've become the new Newt Gingrich of the Republican Party. A talk show host has become the new Newt Gingrich. He's the excerpt from the Gore speech.
ALGORE: "This president episodically poses as a uniter and healer. If he really has any desire to play that role, then I call upon him to condemn Rush Limbaugh, perhaps his strongest political supporter, who said publicly that the torture in Abu Grab [sic—Ghraib] was 'a brilliant maneuver' and that the photos were 'good old American pornography,' and that the actions portrayed were simply those of people 'having a good time' and 'needing to blow off steam.'"
RUSH: I guess those naked pyramids are just not in the national interest to Algore. (Laughing and laughing.) Okay. Well, you know, here's the thing, folks. Algore, this whole speech, he went nuts. He's flailing around wildly there. Not just me, he's attacking everybody who has led the nation through 9/11, the war on terrorism, and he's making statements that are flat out lies in this speech. For example, the Geneva Conventions. I don't know how many of you know this, the Geneva Conventions do not protect terrorists. (PTI: Interrogation of Ultras Not Regulated Under Geneva) They protect soldiers who serve under a nation who wear uniforms who carry their weapons openly, and with the kind of threat that we're facing today with terrorist cells in the U.S. plotting an even bigger attack than 9/11. I mean, it says a lot about Gore. It says he's perverse, that he would be argue to go confer greater rights on those who seek to murder millions of Americans and calling for even tougher actions to seek them out and destroy them before they destroy us, and this is what is truly puzzling to me about the left, and this is what's disarming about these prison photos.
What really troubles me about these photos, above and beyond what's in them, is how they're being used to undermine our war effort. Now we have the former vice president, a man who was thisclose to becoming president of the United States, speak out in this speech. We haven't played you the bites, but he was flailing around on the Geneva Convention. He starts talking about conferring more rights on the kind of people who want to murder tens of thousands more Americans than he does seem interested in dealing with the people who want to commit those murders. He has succeeded in giving our adversaries in Europe and our enemies in the caves of Afghanistan and the allies of Iraq a message that they'll take to heart, and that is that we are not a united nation, that we do not have the will to win this war, and that we are weak and indecisive. That's the message that Gore sends today, and it's the wrong message, because it's a lie, and beyond that it is an outrage.
I don't think anything of this kind has ever been done by a former vice president during a war, but our adversaries and our enemies would be badly mistaken if they actually believe that Gore speaks for this nation, because he doesn't. I speak for more of this nation than Algore does, and I will say it on this program. Otherwise, why is he bothering to mention my name? He speaks for the radical fringe in his party who have become more and more the mainstream of his party. They are the Hate-America First radical left, and I hope the American people get to hear all of this speech. I hope it's played over and over again, for this is how low Gore and his crowd are willing to go to undermine the war effort and our troops and this president to promote themselves and their own agenda and get themselves back into power. Lest we forget, Algore and his boss, Bill Clinton, stood by while the enemy was plotting and planning to murder thousands of Americans.
They did nothing serious to stop bin Laden. They did nothing serious to fight terrorism. They degraded or military. They slashed our troop levels, undermined our intelligence services. Today calls for civil rights for terrorists in his speech while opposing the Patriot Act which helps us find and stop terrorist cells right here in our country, and Gore has said nothing about how he would fight this evil because he's obsessed with hatred not for the enemy but for George W. Bush -- and that's what identifies MoveOn.org. That's what identifies most of the fringe, radical left in this country. They actually think Bush is a greater threat to the people of this world and this country than any thug dictator, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong ll, anybody. They think Bush poses a greater threat, and as misguided as that is, this is what animates them. It is what motivates them and inspires them.
In this speech today he actually makes the case for civil rights for terrorist cells in these prisons under the Geneva Convention when the Geneva Convention does not even cover terrorists. But more importantly, the idea that this guy -- who didn't say anything about terrorism in his presidential campaign. For all you people that want to talk about how the Clinton administration was really tough on terrorism, go back to the 2000 campaign. Find for me where Gore said anything about it. He didn't. It wasn't a big deal. We know what Jamie Gorelick was doing. We know Gorelick built the wall with her famous 1995 memo that prevented intelligence that was gathered on terrorists from being conveyed to law enforcement agencies because of the way the Clinton administration was actually, according to a great piece at FrontPageMag.com. The purpose of the Gorelick memo, you know what it was? To actually protect the privacy of Clinton's fund-raising with the Chinese. (Story)
That's what the purpose of it was, and it had this ancillary effect of stymieing the war on terror. We've had Mansoor Ijaz as many times as he's got the breath to say it, talk about the bin Laden deal with Sudan that Clinton rejected. There is audiotape of Clinton admitting to an audience in New York City that he rejected bin Laden and rejected the offer of bin Laden by the Sudanese. So for this guy to come forth now and act like he is the great protector and the great defender of liberty and so forth when they didn't do diddlysquat during the eight years that Clinton-Gore sat in the White House is just a bit much to take. Here. Play that bite one more time in case you're just joining us and wonder what this little monologue was all about. Gore made a speech today at the New York University, and it's a big, big fund-raising event from MoveOn.org and this is an excerpt.
ALGORE: "This president episodically poses as a uniter and healer. If he really has any desire to play that role, then I call upon him to condemn Rush Limbaugh, perhaps his strongest political supporter, who said publicly that the torture in Abu Grab [sic—Ghraib] was 'a brilliant maneuver' and that the photos were 'good old American pornography,' and that the actions portrayed were simply those of, of people 'having a good time' and 'needing to blow off steam.'"
Since this prison thing has come up here again, we have this from Rowan Scarborough in the Washington Times. "An Army investigation and congressional hearings have spotlighted a series of conflicting statement..." By the way, hold it. Hey, Koko? I want you to go back to the website last week or the week before. I guess it was the week-before last. I want you to grab Kate O'Beirne's column that she wrote on National Review Online placing in context my comments about Abu "Grab," as Gore called it. Didn't he say Abu "Grab"? What's on his mind? He calls it Abu Grab Prison. At any rate, find out in Gore lingo what "Abu" means and we could really be onto something. But go back and get that Kate O'Beirne piece, because she had called me. She sent me an e-mail. She wanted to know what is this? I just sent her the transcript for the whole show from which those comments that these guys are isolating and taking out of context were taken, and she wrote a great piece that puts it all in context and perspective and explains what it was that I was saying in her own words. I mean, it's one thing for me to say it.
So I want you to re-link to that, or just post it, whatever. Put it up there now, Koko. Don't waste any time. Just get it up there now. Get this, folks. There's something going on. I mean, every day now somebody is out there trashing me and mentioning my name from someplace, and it's all these comments. These comments are two weeks old. Now they've even got Gore mouthing these comments. Last week we got a call innocently enough from somebody at TIME magazine. I guess they've got a section -- I don't read TIME magazine so I had to be told about this -- "Ten Questions For" and they change the American every week. Last week they wanted to do ten questions for me, and I agreed to do it. "What the hell, it's ten questions. Yip yip yip yip yahoo," but they pulled out at the last minute. They went to the editors meeting at ten o'clock Friday morning and decided to move it to this week, which is tomorrow. They're going to do this, right here on the heels of all this.
TIME and Newsweek have both, in cover stories, mentioned these quotes that you heard Gore just say about me. It is an all-out concerted effort. I'm honored by it, but I am intrigued by it. I have never seen a media figure targeted much the same way the president of the United States is being targeted, and now the president of the United States, who's got really important things to do, has been told or challenged by Gore to condemn me. (Tapping desk.) So I'm wondering about this TIME magazine. I'm still going to do it, but I'm going to be loaded. I'm going to be ready. In fact, they want to take a picture. I ought to show up in prison guard garb, or maybe take the picture with a hood on and say, "Here, I'm the Statue of Liberty. I showed up today to do my show as the Statue of Liberty. Take a picture of me with this hood on. Send a copy over to MoveOn.org." (Laughing.)
Anyway, where was I? I normally don't lose my place, and I haven't lost it. Get that thing posted up there, Koko, the Kate O'Beirne piece at RushLimbaugh.com. Anyway, "Army investigations and congressional hearings have spotlighted a list of conflicting statements about Iraq prisoner abuse between the top brass and the general who once ran Abu (Grab)" and I'm going to start pronouncing it that way I want to make sure that I'm not (to staff). Play the Gore bite, I just want to hear how he says Abu "Grab." (Replaying of Gore sound bite.) Yeah, right there. Abu. It's "Abu Grab." All right. So from now on, just like we used to pronounce Mario Cuomo's name "Cooomo," because that's how the Reverend Jackson pronounced it -- didn't want to embarrass Reverend Jackson, so he thought it was Cooomo; it was Coomo -- so now it's "Abu Grab." So the general who once ran Abu Grab prison or once ran it and who was stripped this week of her brigade command, 'Some military advocates say that Brigadier General Janice Karpinski received light punishment because she is one of the Army's few females.'"
Special treatment because she's a woman? "That's the charge recommended for a..." (laughing) and the "seriousness of the charge" of course, matters more than the nature of the evidence, "...recommended for a reprimand. She instead received a minor letter of admonishment. However, Major General Antonio M. Taguba, who completed the first of several ongoing administrative investigations, lays some blame squarely at the feet of General Karpinski. His report says that she did not act on recommendations from a series of fault-finding inquiries before the ill treatment began in October. In fact, William Lindh, who directs the Center for Cultural Conservatism at the Free Congress Foundation writes in a column this week that the apparent breakdown in discipline from the MPs at Abu Grab may relate to the presence of women and especially to the fact that the commander was a woman. The climate of political correctness or to give it its true name, 'Cultural Marxism..."
(Laughing). Well, okay. (Laughing.) "...Cultural Marxism that has infested and overwhelmed the American armed forces makes it almost impossible to discipline a woman, and risky for a man to attempt to do so. Whatever the reason, one theme is clear: Abu Grab was a disaster waiting to happen. Rules on uniforms were not enforced, soldiers wrote poems and other sayings on their helmets..." Oh, really? Are you telling me that these brutes, these brutes who did all these horrible, insulting things to these people, wrote poetry? Come on, how does that happen? Poets are gentle little flowers wilting in the breeze. Well, it might have been limericks, but anyway, so they wrote poems and other sayings on their helmets, saluting of "orificers" was not forced. "Records on inmates and escapes were spotty, and regulations were not posted. No MP had been trained adequately in detainee operations." (sigh) Just fix this and move on. What are we beating ourselves over the head with this for? This is what's not productive, acting like this (abuse) is regular and commonplace, and now we've got to stop everything to take care of this all for our psyche, actually all for the advancement of John Kerry is just a bit much. It's putting people who wear the uniform at greater risk over there, which we've been through countless times and nobody hears, when I say it.
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(NRO: Fraternity Rush - Kate O'Beirne)
(FrontPageMag: How Chinagate Led to 9/11)
(LA Times: Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize By Mansoor Ijaz)
(Washington Times: Generals at odds over abuse at prison)
(NY Daily News: Gore: Rummy, Condi, other Bushies should get canned)
(MoveOn.org: Remarks by Al Gore)
If Dubya had gone to the NAACP the right fringe would be writing about what a dumb move that was. Do you really respect a man who picks an angry mob as his back up? All I can say is WOW, I guess you'd rather be right than win. I'm just glad your on the 'rat team and not on my team. Go Dubya!
Unfortunately, this all too true. I have yet to convince my anti-Bush daughter that the mainstream is biased. She simply replies, "What...and Fox News isn't biased?"
Too bad that there are so many people who still don't have the option of watching Fox News to at least get some semblance of balanced reporting.
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In all fairness, Bill Clinton was pushed to this dynamic and I even personally witnessed (the only time I saw him) former President Bush pushed to hysterics on the eve of the 1992 election.
I am not worried. In the past 2 weeks I have had leftists (who don't know I am a conservative) confess to me that they think the party has gone nutso. Over the edge. They don't want to be lemmings jumping over the cliff (or in Disney's version, thrown over the cliff).
I am not talking about "bending the truth". We know that USA Today, the LA Times, the New York Times, The Boston Globe, and the Daily Mirror have all printed completely fabricated news items. Not "stretched". Outright lies. Written at the home office. Make up the quotes. Make up the names. Make up the facts. Make up the event.
The Globe and the Daily Mirror ran false photos. The LA Times made a photo composite.
These are ALL separate forgeries.
And there is "bias" at FOX? What is this then?
I think we should still have a lot of say as to who the panelist of questioners are.
Could we get Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Michael Reagan...? Why does can it only be talking heads from the alphabet networks (ABCBSNBCNN...)
I believe that if Gore had been President, we would have launched missiles some place within a week just to show he wasn't a wimp/dove. Not that it would have accomplished anything positive.
I've also run into young conservatives who are hesitant to speak out about their politics (and I hold back in public myself at times). I try to send them here so that they may at least find some people in their area who are conservative and don't at all resemble the media's stereotype.
That's what angers me the most about this administration. They just do not expose these morons for what they are. Why cant the Bush admin come up with responses like Rush does? I'm a very disappointed supporter!
I though that was the mantra of the Bush admin.
Listen bush-bot. Why is it with you mind-numbed robots that those of us who are disappointed with the bush admin. have to be called names. I guess there truly is no dissent allowed in the Bush era.
Excellent idea!. . . we should still have a lot of say as to who the panelist of questioners are.
Could we get Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Michael Reagan...? Why does can it only be talking heads from the alphabet networks (ABCBSNBCNN...)
PHOOEY on having any questioners!Questioners get "positioned" above the candidates, which means they talk down to the future president of the United States. Equalize the time between the two candidates by use of a chess timer arrangement by which the two participants control whose mike is live. No moderator, and no questioners.
Just the candidates with whatever resources they choose to deploy, which could include a computer giving access to the web and hence to any help they choose to use. Which could include precanned audio minispeeches on particular topics such as "why service in Vietnam is/is not relevant to this election."
"I am not worried. "
I agree... but I do suspect the liberal media will reach basically the same conclusions and hide the worst of them from sight.
It might be that the media will actually wind up running the Democrat campaign by selectively showing or withholding clips, injecting the "right" ones into the news at different times slots which reach different audiences.
It's a danger that I have not heard anyone mention before.
I called you no names. You called me "bush-bot" and "mind-numbed robot". I know you can't think , I guess you can't read either. Look up the word hypocrite.
The fact is I hit a nerve with the TRUTH and you can't handle it. You would rather be right than win.
No names??????
You would rather be right than win.
If winning means compromising all of the my previously stated values then, yes, I would.
That is not name calling that is pointing out that you work for the bad guys...the 'rats. You are their friend because you attack Republicans.
If winning means compromising all of the my previously stated values then, yes, I would.
Voting for Dubya is "compromising all of the my previously stated values." That is exactly what the 'rats think too.
It's okay for you to attack me because you think that I work for the rat team. But, if I call you a Bush-bot for supporting Bush, even though he's compromised many conservative values (Increased federal spending, encouraging illegal immigration, NOT standing up for his judicial appointees, etc.) Can I quote someone here? "Look up the word hypocrite."
That is not name calling that is pointing out that you work for the bad guys...the 'rats. You are their friend because you attack Republicans.
I didn't attack anyone. YOU attacked me. I was expressing my disappointment with Bush's administration.
Voting for Dubya is "compromising all of the my previously stated values."
Dubya is the one compromising his previously stated values. He's not, in any way, (except for a minor tax break) espousing conservative values. If you agree with his domestic policies then you are not a conservative, either.
If being a republican means supporting Bush and his policies, then I am probably not a republican any more. I am an independant conservative. Like I told someone else: I guess there really is no dissent allowed in the Bush administration.
I would not ever vote for any of the lunatic democrats. But, I am very disappointed with Bush. If that means, to you, that I am a 'rat. Then you are the closed-minded one who blindly follows and allows no dissent. I don't want to be like you. Good day, Sir.
If you can name one issue, excluding campaign finance reform (I can give good reasons for his change of heart for this issue,) where Dubya has compromised on his campaign promises I will admit you are right.
From education reform to medicare reform to tax-cuts Dubya has supported and often delivered on his promises. Perhaps you did not listen to Dubya's campaign promises.
Dubya has fought for his judicial nominee's, but you seem to think he can wave a magic wand and confirm them regardless of what the Constitution says. We are at war and just coming out of a recession. Dubya said he would support increased federal spending in times of war or recession during the 2000 campaign. I am unaware of any statement Dubya made about immigration during the 2000 presidential elections, but you KNOW he has compromised on this issue so please give me a quote or a web-link to prove your assertions.
If being a (R)epublican means supporting Bush and his policies, then I am probably not a (R)epublican any more.
From right to life, to tax-cuts, to defense Dubya is more conservative than Reagan. I believe you were never a Republican. I believe you are a malcontent agitator fighting for the 'rats. I believe you are so dumb you do not know which side you fight for.
I would not ever vote for any of the lunatic democrats.
Until this sentence I have not seen you write anything bad about the 'rats. You only have scorn for Republicans.
...you are the closed-minded...blindly follows...allows no dissent.
I have allowed you to assert your stupidity. I can't stop you from making a fool of yourself. This is still a free country unless people like you get their way. Yes I think you are wrong. Yes, I believe I have a right to prove you are wrong. What is the problem with that? I don't understand your complaint. If a mentally deficient Freeper posts slander why should I keep quite? You have the right to prove you are dumb. What have I posted that is contrary to this statement?
I don't want to be like you. Good day, Sir.
You are nothing like me. FOAD...Cur.
I just checked out your homepage. I now know why you are so insulting. You believe in a cartoon character and live in Wisconsin. That explains your lack of class and character. Go eat some cheese and such your harley tailpipe, eh?
I don't believe in a cartoon character and we all have to live someplace.
That explains your lack of class and character. Go eat some cheese and such your harley tailpipe, eh?
I will eat some cheese thank you. Suck is spelled s-u-c-k.
I have refuted everything you wrote. You have ignored your failings and are now reduced to fling feces like a monkey. You have lost this argument.
BTTT!!
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Those Harley fumes getting to you?
I don't believe in a cartoon character.....
Then why is a cartoon character the only thing on your home page?
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