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To: weegee

Hey, anybody out there think the Bush administration will finally take the gloves off and fight these pieces of crap?


3 posted on 05/27/2004 2:57:55 AM PDT by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: raybbr
I'm still waiting for Al Gore to condemn Michael Moore for saying the people we fight in Iraq (A) aren't "terrorists", (B) aren't "the enemy", (C) "will win". He also has essentially said that he wants to see the US get its butt kicked.

This sounds a whole lot like a known propagandist providing aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime (treason).

A lot of crickets chirping but no leftists denouncing Michael Moore's new found "friends".

7 posted on 05/27/2004 3:05:28 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: raybbr

Cutting through the confusion: Few actual tortures took place, apparently, and people who poo-poo the non-torture tortures of wartime prisoners are hard-line about fighting terror. People who make a big deal about all this porno [which most of it is] are softies. So the question is: who does America want to fight terrorists? Hardliners? Or softies? The answer, as week-after-week passes, is obvious. If Bush doesn't cave, this is going to be a mere blip on the radar screen by election day, just another example of who is taking this war seriously, and who is trying to turn us into a useless, pathetic nannystate.


9 posted on 05/27/2004 3:11:11 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Backhoe's Gorelick links: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts)
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To: raybbr
It won't happen. It was already difficult enough to prosecute someone for treason for speaking out (several propagandists like Axis Sally and Lord Haw Haw were convicted after WWII).

As with all things from the Clinton Legacy, the bar of civil discourse has been lowered (to somewhere in the gutter).

A host on Air America (Randi Rhodes?) made a death threat against the President ("someone should take him out and shoot him") and it doesn't even merit a blip from the national media (although the launching for the network sure did).

We WILL have a civil war in this country again, I just don't see a Republican president reigning in the anarchist-socialist element in this country (despite their seditious rhetoric). There would be too many claims of America becoming a "police state" and "denying people free speech".

You cannot threaten the life of the president, you cannot advocate the overthrow of our Constitutional form of government (sedition), you cannot promote the war effort of the enemy side (this is treason; if that is how you feel, LEAVE), just as you cannot yell "Fire" in a crowded movie theater in the absence of any emergency.

10 posted on 05/27/2004 3:13:18 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: raybbr
Hey, anybody out there think the Bush administration will finally take the gloves off and fight these pieces of crap?

Why do you think most people are not a bright as you?

You create the impression that a brilliant person like you can see through Gore... but the ordinary dumb idiots not born with your brilliance have to watch a fight between Bush and Gore to see the truth.

What a load of condescending garbage.

When one side of a political fight descends into name calling and blame, and the other side concentrates of fixing the problems, the fixer always wins they election.. Even when the fixer can't fix the problems.

The classic case was in 1936. After 4 years of Roosevelt's New Deal the great depression was as bad or worse than it was in 1932. It is true that the Works Progress Administration had put 8 million people back to work. But 13 million more had lost their jobs during the first four years of the Roosevelt administration as well. Five million more people were out of work in 1936 than in 1932.

Republicans attacked Roosevelt around the clock for his failed policies. Roosevelt did not attack back. He proposed his left wing fixes.... even though we now know his fixes made things worse

On election day in 1936 the voters were faced with a choice. On one hand they had a Repubican candidate and party that only offered severe criticism of Roosevelt. Republicans were into hating FDR. They offered no real fixes. All Roosevelt talked about was how he was trying to fix things and how he needed people in office to help .. not hinder. The voters gave Roosevelt a landslide and total control of the house and senate.

On election day the choice was failed fixes or no fixes. The voters chose failed fixes. At least Roosevelt was talking fixes. They rejected the Republican platform that only proposed blame.

An election is very much like a horse race. It is worth nothing to be 7 lengths ahead in the back stretch only to be behind the horse that crosses the finish line first.

The object in horse races and campaigns is the same... stay close and save plenty for the home stretch.

You argue for a strategy that cost Bill Simon the governorship of California. Gray Davis was very very unpopular. Davis attacked Simon time after time. Instead of being the fixer and let Davis become the evil attacker, Simom attacked back even harder. The end result was a Davis win. Lyn Nofziger and others tried to give Simon a clue. He rejected them to follow your type of advise. Simon was certain that counter attacks was the way to go. Simple Simon did not have a clue.

Bush and Rove understand how to win elections far more than any of their critics.

The media and the Democrats have tried their best to destroy George Bush with hateful attacks. They try their best to provoke him into angry responses. They know if they can provoke counter attacks they will have a prescription that could result in his defeat. It drives them nuts that he never takes their bait.

But the world is full of people who would take the bait. They are a quite similar to a breed of fish called Suckers. They just can't help but choose the failed course. Thank goodness Dubya understands how to win... The lets trash and bash too crowd only knows how to lose.

21 posted on 05/27/2004 4:30:05 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: raybbr
Hey, anybody out there think the Bush administration will finally take the gloves off and fight these pieces of crap?

In due time.

Never mind that I'm thankful that AlSoreloser is not our president, but I am glad that I am not part of the administration. It has nothing to do with any disagreement with the President, or with his policies or agenda. I am completely in favor of the President, and would take a bullet for him if I could.

The reason I'm glad not to be part of the administration is that I would be so incensed at all of the falsehoods that are daily (and loudly) perpetrated by the left, that I would be calling for charges of treason and sedition, and calling for a scene out of "Hang 'Em High" with Clint Eastwood, a mass hangin' in the town square. Or, to be more humane, a mass serving of the triple cocktail. After all, "Flipper" Kerry, wouldn't that "Let America Be America Again"? People used to get the lethal Bill Blass tie for poaching cattle, for cryin' out loud.

The best way to get rid of smelly trash is not to put an air freshener in the trashcan, or to spray Glade in there. The best way to get rid of smelly trash is to THROW OUT THE TRASH. Or, in our case, VOTE out the trash.

When I have smelly trash at home, I don't let it consume me. I do my work, take care of my priorities, wrap up the trash, throw out the trash, and go on with my life, doing the right thing.

So the best thing that can happen is for the Administration to keep working, to keep America as safe as possible. Take care of Iraq. Take care of the economy. Combat the lies with the truth. Get reelected. And then...TAKE OUT THE TRASH.

In the meantime, to make ourselves feel better...call out the VIKING KITTIES!!!

48 posted on 05/27/2004 8:44:15 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney for '04.)
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To: raybbr
"Hey, anybody out there think the Bush administration will finally take the gloves off and fight these pieces of crap?"

That's what angers me the most about this administration. They just do not expose these morons for what they are. Why cant the Bush admin come up with responses like Rush does? I'm a very disappointed supporter!

68 posted on 05/28/2004 2:10:59 AM PDT by dokmad
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