Skip to comments.Rumsfeld Admires War Criminal
Posted on 05/27/2004 12:27:27 PM PDT by philosofy123
To the Editor/ The New York Times:
Your "Political Points" article in the 23 May Sunday New York Times, reports that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is reading Grant, the biography of the Civil War general, Ulysses S. Grant, as a morale booster.
But if Rumsfeld is going to adopt Grant as a role model or source of inspiration, he (and you) should be aware that Grants policies and actions included the following:
Ordering the expulsion on 24 hours notice of all Jews "as a class" from the territory under his control (General Order # 11, 17 December, 1862), and forbidding Jews to travel on trains (November, 1862);
Ordering the destruction of an entire agricultural area to deny the enemy support (the Shenandoah Valley, 5 August, 1864).
Leading the mass murder, a virtual genocide, of Native People, mainly helpless old men, women, and children in their villages, to make land available for the western railroads (the eradication of the Plains Indians, 186566).
Overseeing the complete destruction of defenseless Southern cities, and conducting such warfare against unarmed women and children (e.g., the razing of Meridien, and other cities in Mississippi, spring, 1863).
Contrast these well documented atrocities (and many others too numerous to list) with the gentlemanly policies and behavior of the Confederate forces. My ancestor Major Raphael Moses, General James Longstreets chief commissary officer, was forbidden by General Robert E. Lee from even entering private homes in their raids into the North, such as the famous incursion into Pennsylvania. Moses was forced to obtain his supplies from businesses and farms, and he always paid for what he requisitioned, albeit in Confederate tender.
Moses always endured in good humor the harsh verbal abuse he received from the local women, who, he noted, always insisted on receiving in the end the exact amount owed.
Moses and his Confederate colleagues never engaged in the type of warfare waged by the Union forces, who routinely burned, looted, and destroyed libraries, courthouses, churches, homes, and cities full of defenseless civilians, including my hometown of Atlanta. My ancestors may have lost the war, but they never lost their honor.
Perhaps Rumsfeld should be reading the memoirs of General Lee or Major Moses, instead of the bio of a war criminal like General Grant.
So, the NYTimes finally found a Suthren White Male thy like?
I have heard it all now.
All of this about Grant is true. Having him on the $50 is a notable irony.
It would be nice if the media would trot this out when discussing, say, confederate battle flags or their other bash-the-south articles rather than to attack one of their highest-target priority republicans.
Up your dosage. Stat!
Yeah, forget Grant. He should be reading the biography of Sherman instead.
Yes, Mr. Regenstein, stick it! US Grant was indispensable in winning the Civil War and keeping this one nation.
Who the hell said Rumsfeld was going to use Grant as a role model?
Is every Leftist really this delusional?
Everybody's a war criminal to the NYT's and its readers except:
and every other bruttish thug communism past, present and future.
The victor writes the history. The South has nothing good.
Besides which, most of the Indian policies were set and executed by Sherman and Sheridan, not Grant.
This guy's racist track record is a lot more recent than U.S. Grant's.
I took it as Mr. Regenstein being somewhat tongue-in-cheek and putting Abu Ghraib in perspective, for the know-it-all Times.
Or Robert E Lee?
Oh, I see it's Grant. I could really be totally non PC and say who I really thought it was.
Can you imagine if this nation had PEACEFULLY divided?
Whew! For a second I thought that Rummy was going to say something nice about Kerry.
Forget PC. Tell us how you feel!
Much as I am a partisan of Lee and the South and much as I believe the assault on the Southern states was totally wrong, I have to say that Rumsfield needs to read and learn from the memoirs of winners.
You are correct. Carl Rove reads from Prince Machiavelli?
Guess you never heard of Ft. Pillow, The Battle of the Crater, or Andersonville. Sh*t flowed both ways in the Civil War.
I bet that idiot Lewis Regenstein will buy the war criminal Bill Clinton's book.
Forgot to add the ransoming/burning of Chambersburg, PA right here in my own backyard...
The leftists will not tolerate any American heroes. They are even attacking the firemen and cops actions on 9/11. I'm waiting for their smear of Jesus (why did't he cure ALL the cripples and lepers).
And he even said, "Go and sin no more" ...
...how judgmental can you get!!?
LOL, not a chance. You will have to read my mind.
Perhaps, Mr. Regenstein, you should shut the hell up and let him read whatever the hell he wants.
I'm ashamed that you live in my state.
In other words, he paid next to nothing for them.
"War is hell."
--William Tecumseh Sherman
The people of Chambersburg, Pennsylvania might beg to differ about Confederate tactics.
No, I can't. A divided nation would have retained slavery south of the border and as Gen. Longstreet said in the movie Gettysburg, "the war is about slavery". I have no nostalgia for that.
Moral relativism alert!
I guess the world and the US would have been better off having the south continue to embrace slavery? The world and the US would have been better off seeing the experiment of the American revolution come apart - unable to unite under the very priciples of it's constitution and bill of rights?
Oh! and because the Shanandoah valley was burned the northern cause is now criminal and with no higher moral? Because the US bombed Dresden - victory in WWII was only accomplished by a more evil empire than the one vanquished???
Be careful. Sherman had some policies regarding the Indians that aren't PC today! No one from the 19th-Century can pass our sniff testers today!!!
Henry Lee II
"Leftists are crazed and violent people,
With the blood of millions on their hands.
If he wanted to admire a Civil War general, he should have used Lee, but unfortunately that wouldn't be PC for those masses who don't really know anything about Lee except that he was from the South. For example, Lee was publicly against slavery and didn't own slaves, as opposed to Grant and his wife, and started freeing the slaves of a whole plantation as soon as he inherited it. And as far as I know all of his armed conflicts were carried through with honor.
But, but, I thought the left is accusing us of fighting this war for the Jews...Israel?
Oh, I got it - Rumsfeld is doing this to make up for his hero's (Grant) racist blunder.
Sometimes the Democrats get so convoluted I have trouble following their thought processes.
Thomas J. Jackson even taught slaves to read -- which was illegal throughout much of the South (though I admit I don't know if it was in Virginia).
The Civil War was full of oddities like that. I guess that's why so many of us like to argue about it.
It was, and Jackson didn't seem to care. He started a Sunday School for blacks, taught the same, and sent monetary contributions for its support during the war.
Yosemite Sam missed the end of the War, too.
Let it go, Mr. R.
Same with Sheridan.
I'd still consider books about both of them valuable reading material.
Personally, I'd like to meet the guy who wrote the letter on the streets.
My great-great uncle starved to death shortly after his liberation from Salisbury prison in North Carolina. But it was a gentlemanly starvation.
I was being facetious, but you're point is a good one. Heck, any movie made before 1964 doesn't pass the sniff testers either.
Actually, Lee would be good. I read a book a few years ago, a joint biography of Grant and Lee. Pretty good on both accounts.
It is fair to say pretty much ANY pow's from either side would have been quite happy to be in abu garib, from what I have read.