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Jayna Davis: OKC and WTC Bombers Met in Philippines
NewsMax ^ | 5/27/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 05/27/2004 6:54:18 PM PDT by wagglebee

Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols met with World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef in the Philippines before he and Timothy McVeigh carried out their plot, investigative reporter Jayna Davis said Wednesday.

"Terry Nichols and Ramzi Yousef met personally in the Philippines on the island of Mindanao in the early 1990s to discuss, of all things, bombmaking," Davis told ABC Radio Network host John Batchelor.

On Wednesday, an Oklahoma jury returned a 161 count murder verdict against Nichols. He is expected to face the death penalty. But the bizarre Yousef-Nichols tie-in did not come up in the trial.

Davis said she didn't think Nichols would ever discuss his relationship with Yousef, who devised a plot known as Operation Bojinka, a kamikaze airliner hijacking plan that became the blueprint for the 9/11 attacks.

"Sources close to the defense have told me, and this comes from recorded conversations with his wife, Lana Padilla, that Terry Nichols is going to remain clammed up for the rest of his natural days on earth," Davis told Batchelor.

"He wants to protect his son Joshua from any retaliation," she added. Filipino police informant, Edwin Angeles, who first detailed meetings between Yousef and Nichols, was assassinated in 1998.

Yousef's partner in the Bojinka plot, Abdul Hakim Murad, was apprehended by Filipino police in 1994 and taken to New York to stand trial. On the morning of the OKC bombing, Murad summoned his jailers to tell them he and Yousef were connected to the crime. Later that day Murad gave the FBI a written confession.

Just months before his own June 2001 execution for the crime, Timothy McVeigh referred to both Yousef and Osama bin Laden in a letter to Fox News Channel's Rita Cosby.

"Collateral Damage? As an American news junkie; a military man; and a Gulf War veteran, where do they think I learned that? (It sure as hell wasn't Osama Bin Laden!)," he wrote in April 2001.

In the next sentence, McVeigh mentioned Yousef.

"For all else, I would refer you to my enclosed paper 'Hypocrisy,' and to Ramzi Yousef's statement to the court just prior to his sentencing. I filter all labels and insults thusly."

In the Jan. 8, 1998, court statement to which McVeigh referred, Yousef proclaimed, "Yes, I am a terrorist and proud of it as long as it is against the U.S. government," before being sentenced to 240 years in jail.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
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My question is how did Reno miss this? Oh yeah, she only cared about protecting Clinton.
1 posted on 05/27/2004 6:54:19 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

She (and Clinton) "missed" it because they saw an opportunity to blame right wing talk show hosts and gun owners. It worked, too. I wish there could be some punishment for these people.


2 posted on 05/27/2004 6:57:50 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: wagglebee

That and busy patting herself on the back for killing babies in Waco.


3 posted on 05/27/2004 6:57:54 PM PDT by Toespi (,)
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To: wagglebee

I just read her book. I just have no idea, with the amount of "evidence" she seems to put forth, how this conclusion continues to go unchallenged.


4 posted on 05/27/2004 6:59:10 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: wagglebee
Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols met with World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef in the Philippines

Total coincidence. ....a freak occurrence. Everyone knows there was no Islamist connection to OKC, and that evil white militia-types were solely responsible for that terrorist act.

5 posted on 05/27/2004 7:01:13 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Travis McGee; archy; Squantos; MeekOneGOP; onyx; MEG33; SJackson; mhking

here we go.


6 posted on 05/27/2004 7:06:35 PM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Yeah and the Waco crowd was a lot more dangerous than the prisoners in Abu Ghraib or Guantamano./sarcasm


7 posted on 05/27/2004 7:06:38 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Holy crap!


8 posted on 05/27/2004 7:10:59 PM PDT by Imal (Enough of this! Let's hear more about Abu Ghraib.)
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To: wagglebee

Yikes, the truth is starting to get reported. Another sign some would say. Hopefully the truth will turn out to be similar to my perceptions.


9 posted on 05/27/2004 7:15:17 PM PDT by TBall
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There's a lot of similarities between the terrorists who worship the Koran and the militants who worship the Second Amendment.

Both believe in a higher authority that compels them to murder innocent women and children for no constructive reason.

10 posted on 05/27/2004 7:15:45 PM PDT by bayourod (Gay weddings will provoke Muslim terrorist attacks on America, but the press will blame Bush)
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To: wagglebee

I listened to her talk for about an hour while driving the no man's land between Montgomery and Mobile last week on USA Radio (I think). What she talked about in that time span left me with little doubt that John Doe 2 is out there running around and the Feds know who he is - Hussein al somethin' Hussein. Apparently this cat has some serious terror ties, and (don't quote me on this) I believe she said something about a Saddam Hussein tie.


11 posted on 05/27/2004 7:16:18 PM PDT by numberonepal
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To: bayourod
Thank goodness for sarcasm.
12 posted on 05/27/2004 7:18:36 PM PDT by TBall
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To: wagglebee
See http://jaynadavis.com/ for more info, and you can buy her book there as well.
13 posted on 05/27/2004 7:18:39 PM PDT by numberonepal
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To: bayourod
Both believe in a higher authority that compels them to murder innocent women and children

Probably just a little off base. Watch out for the pick-off throw.

14 posted on 05/27/2004 7:23:21 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: TBall
I'm not talking about the NRA crowd, or most of the militia groups, I'm talking about the clinically psychos who think they're on some holy 2nd Amendment mission.

The average gun enthusiast understands that the 2nd Amendment is no different than any other part of the Constitution; subject to the same changing political, cultural, and technological influences.

15 posted on 05/27/2004 7:29:19 PM PDT by bayourod (Gay weddings will provoke Muslim terrorist attacks on America, but the press will blame Bush)
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To: wagglebee
I don't think Reno, Clinton, Gore et al missed this at all. They chose to ignore it so they could blame right wing extremists like Rush. Clinton's polls were down and the jerk had the nerve to say that the OKC bombing saved his presidency! Where was the outcry from the media at that kind of reckless statement?
16 posted on 05/27/2004 7:34:13 PM PDT by ladyinred (The leftist media is the enemy within.)
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To: wagglebee

Now folks don't be too hard on Klintoon and NotsoBright. If they would have gone off after McVeigh's known contacts, they'd have had no excuse for not picking up Bin Laden. Remember, Klintoon says there was no reason to pick up Laden.

Embassy bombings, the Cole, the Somalia fiasco, yeah Klintoon says there was no reason.

Since Klinton and Notso have repeatedly confirmed that they had 'no REASON', I'm inclined to side with them.

< /sarcasm >

Neither had a lick of sense. Neither saw any benefit to bringing in McVeigh and Nichol's Al Qaeda connections. Neither of those people get it to this day.

Well I do have reason, and I think both Klintoon and Notso should be sitting in a dark, dank dirt hole somewhere, for the rest of their natural days.

Judgement day is coming. Thank heaven there is a God.


17 posted on 05/27/2004 7:36:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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RE: "I just read her book. I just have no idea, with the amount of "evidence" she seems to put forth, how this conclusion continues to go unchallenged."

What would "challenge" the evidence?

I have not read the book but Richard Clarke's book is quoted by a few columnists thus, "Ramzi Yousef and [Terry] Nichols had been in the city of Cebu on the same days.... Could the al Qaeda explosives expert have been introduced to the angry American?... We do know that Nichols's bombs did not work before his Philippine stay and were deadly when he returned. We also know that Nichols continued to call Cebu long after his wife returned to the United States."

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/mylroie200404050847.asp

Though Clarke is hardly reliable I nevertheless wonder why he's straying from covering for Clinton. Why would he include something in his book that raises questions about the the lone "ditto-head" bombers, McVeigh and Nichols?

One mainstream source says, "Clarke says he could never disprove a conspiracy theory linking Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, al-Qaeda operatives who helped plan the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and Terry Nichols, one of the organizers of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-03-28-clarke-book_x.htm

I say again. Patriots endured years of abuse, ridicule, and threats before we got serious investigations of Ruby Ridge and Waco.

18 posted on 05/27/2004 7:39:53 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: wagglebee
My question is how did Reno miss this?

She was on a similar compensation plan as Scott Ritter and Hans Blix.

19 posted on 05/27/2004 7:49:53 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: wagglebee
In the Jan. 8, 1998, court statement to which McVeigh referred, Yousef proclaimed, "Yes, I am a terrorist and proud of it as long as it is against the U.S. government," before being sentenced to 240 years in jail.

And so why was this verim not exterminated? Did the Clinton Admin Lefties think he/it could be rehabilitated? LOL!

20 posted on 05/27/2004 7:52:04 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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