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Loving Hispanic woman is a state agency's ideal [White Families Need Not Apply??]
The Record of Hackensack, aka The Bergen Record | 05.13.04

Posted on 05/28/2004 5:00:54 PM PDT by Coleus

Loving Hispanic woman is a state agency's ideal

Thursday, May 13, 2004
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arrow"It means so much to them to have a home, to have some stability," says Margaret Quintana, surrounded by four of her five foster children.

Margaret Quintana's most prized possessions include the mementos of a typically proud mother: pictures of smiling children, and letters, cards, and poems from them that describe the difference that her love made in their lives.

They are not her biological children. They are the dozens of foster children, most of them Hispanic, whom Quintana has taken into her home during the last 16 years.

Quintana says that staying in a home that is culturally familiar helps foster children feel a sense of comfort and continuity.

"It definitely makes a difference," the Clifton woman said Wednesday.

The state child welfare agency takes the same view, but it notes that Quintana is a rarity in the Hispanic community.

Eighteen percent of the 65,000 foster children in New Jersey are Hispanic, but only 250 foster homes are bilingual and equipped to handle their needs, state officials say.

So the agency is starting an outreach program to recruit more Spanish-speaking foster parents by working with local Hispanic organizations to spread information about the foster program.

"We are facing a critical shortage of foster homes for Hispanic children," Human Services Commissioner James Davy said at a city of Passaic news conference Wednesday. "No child should lose their culture, their sense of identity when circumstances require they be removed from their home. We need to do a better job of recruiting foster families in the neighborhoods where children live."

Lorenzo Hernandez, executive director of the Passaic-based Hispanic Information Center, which helps place children in Hispanic homes, agreed.

"We do not want to traumatize a child a second time by placing him or her in a home that does not understand their culture or where there may a language barrier," he said.

A new advisory council - made up of members of Hispanic organizations from throughout the state - will monitor the effort to recruit Hispanic foster families and help the Human Services Department establish more effective programs for Hispanics.

The outreach effort is part of a larger plan to reform the child welfare system. Among the plan's goals are providing better drug treatment programs for biological-parents and providing incentives - such as higher payments - to foster families.

The new focus on Hispanic children also will include hiring more bilingual caseworkers, Davy said. Department spokesman Joe Delmar said the agency didn't know how many of its caseworkers are bilingual.

The agency is recruiting in predominantly Hispanic areas, such as Passaic and Hudson counties. But the Division of Youth and Family Services also plans to spend $150,000 to establish 15 additional foster homes for Hispanic children in Cumberland County, where 20 percent of the children in foster care are Hispanic.

Davy said recruiting foster families is a difficult undertaking.

"Fostering, while it has great rewards, in that you often get a lot from these children, is a daunting experience when you think about it," Davy said.

"But once you step into it, you wonder why you haven't done it before."

The Hispanic Information Center said that efforts to serve Hispanic children must include preventive measures, such as teaching families how to cope with stress and to communicate.

Many Hispanic families are overwhelmed by immigration problems, multiple jobs that leave little time to supervise children, and family separation, with one parent living here and the other staying behind in the native land.

"Parents get frustrated," said Sonia Lopez, deputy director at the center. "And sometimes kids get mistreated. There's a need to show them how to cope, how to communicate, and talk things over. We would like to strengthen families, help create unity, so that there's less frustration and children are less likely to be abused."

Quintana, who owns a beauty salon in Passaic and has two adult children of her own, plans to continue offering shelter, particularly to adolescents.

"I was a difficult teenager," she said. "I got pregnant at 15. But I had a lot of love. My parents didn't give up on me, and it made a difference. Many of these kids don't have that support.

"It means so much to them to have a home, to have some stability. They still come back to visit after they leave here, even after they get married and have their own homes. That means so much to me."

E-mail: llorente@northjersey.com

Contact Commissioner Davy Here

The Hispanic Information Center is part of Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Paterson, they can be e-mailed here.


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Targeted Outreach is fine, I've done it myself trying to get minorities to register for Bone Marrow registries and for Blood Drives not to get Hispanic blood for Hispanic patients but for all people. To say that an Hispanic child will be "traumatized" when they are placed in homes that are not Hispanic is completely wrong. I wonder what the reaction would have been if an Irish/Polish/Italian organization said the same thing about putting their children with Hispanics and how they would be tramatized for the cultural and language barriers? Language barriers? What's wrong with having Hispanic foster children and Hispanic foster parents living in America learn English?

This article just tells me that Hispanics don't really care what happens to their orphaned and foster children; otherwise, there would be thousands of good Catholic Hispanic Parents waiting in line to protect "their" children and "their" culture and "their" language. 250 families in a state which has a very-large population of Hispanics residing in it is certainly a very sad and poor testament of the Hispanic community's dedication and resolve in this matter.

What are the goals and objectives for this new outreach program? To find parents to preserve a culture and foreign language or to find a loving and caring home for a child? Yea, let's get the dept. of Human Services involved so the children can be placed in homes where their teenaged clients are starved and weigh only 45lbs. when they reach 19 yrs. old and where children under their care are murdered and burried in basements.

And, now that we are going to place children according to culture and ethnicity, I guess we can't "traumatize" a Polish Child by placing him with a Greek or Italian family, could we? When will this nonsense ever stop?

1 posted on 05/28/2004 5:00:55 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Where is the foster father? Only single mothers need be praised? Where are the stories of the single hispanic father? Fatherhood must be verboten.


2 posted on 05/28/2004 5:40:24 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Coleus

The same special interests that messed up adoption of black babies by white and mixed race families are at work here. I'm pretty sour against these groups because my mom was rejected by the state adoption agency because she was not a citizen (but really it was because my father was a white man).


3 posted on 05/28/2004 5:43:09 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: longtermmemmory

These people must compare notes with the black social workers association. They sound JUST like them.


4 posted on 05/28/2004 5:44:18 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Coleus

Are all of the children proven to be here legally? If not, they should either be deported, or the Mexican govt should be picking up the tab for their care.


5 posted on 05/28/2004 5:57:58 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Coleus

YOu must realize that Spanish is the culture of force.. and also the language of force.. kids here in s california have no choice in either... it is spanish only.. their cultures, holidays and traditions.. language..


6 posted on 05/28/2004 6:10:09 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: Coleus; Cacique
A "Loving Hispanic Woman" is Clemenza's ideal as well. :-)

OK, but do we put a poor, black Dominican child from Paterson in the house of a wealthy, blonde Argentinean couple in Ridgewood?

A loving family is a loving family. The idiocy and racism of the left on the adoption issue never ceases to piss me off.

7 posted on 05/28/2004 6:21:06 PM PDT by Clemenza (Strolling along country roads with my baby...)
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To: JoanneSD
Spanish is the culture of force

"Spanish" people are white Europeans from the country of Spain. I think you are referring to the racially and culturally mixed peoples of Latin America, which are distinct from "Spanish" people. Remember that Mexico is more culturally Amerindian than it is European Spanish in many ways.

Why do so many Americans refer to Latin Americans as "Spanish" because of the language they speak. It makes as much sense as calling a black Jamaican or Chinese Canadian "English." If you call this Polish/Italian American "English" I will get VERY pissed off! :-)

8 posted on 05/28/2004 6:25:29 PM PDT by Clemenza (Strolling along country roads with my baby...)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


9 posted on 05/28/2004 6:35:16 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

I spose it wont 'traumatize' them to take 'white folks' money for their projects programs
and other race baiting ripoffs and scams


10 posted on 05/28/2004 6:37:28 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Coleus
Actually, I have to say I don't see a big problem with the attitude. Perhaps "traumatize" is the wrong word but it's not insane to suggest that for a 6-14 year old kid who is Hispanic and grew up in a more or less "Hispanic" household, there could be a kind of "culture shock" if they are placed with a non-Hispanic family. (Not a *fatal* or *disastrous* "culture shock" or anything, and let's face it the kid is already "shocked", but still....). In such cases, I don't see how acknowledging this, and trying to find a home that is as much "like" the one he grew up in, is bad for the kid. (Well, unless of course the kid *hated* the home he grew up in....;-)

Obviously, all other things being equal it's better to be placed with a white (or, any) foster parent than none at all, but I don't see why it's necessarily flawed to view being Hispanic as a potential advantage for a foster parent when placing a Hispanic kid.

Caveat: If we're talking about kids who are very young (or, grown up enough not to care anymore...), I'd guess that this factor kind of disappears, since how are they going to know either way? A two-year-old probably hasn't soaked up enough of his mother's "culture" to be "shocked" by another, or at least, to be shocked any more than he already is by being apart from his mother for whatever reason.

And I'm sure that at least some, perhaps most of the people pushing the "it's better for Hispanic kids to be placed with Hispanic foster parents" line would disagree with me about that, they'd say "no, even for two-year-olds, even for babies, they should have a Hispanic foster parent!!!". Otherwise they're "losing their culture"!!! In other words, I'm pretty sure a lot of the social-worker-type people who make these decisions, view "culture" in the usual lefty sort of way, as a race-determined absolute to be preserved for its own sake, especially if it's nonwhite (for all the usual multi-culti reasons). And, I certainly don't. On that I would part company with them, if that's what they're saying.

11 posted on 05/28/2004 6:37:49 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank fan
And I'm sure that at least some, perhaps most of the people pushing the "it's better for Hispanic kids to be placed with Hispanic foster parents" line would disagree with me about that, they'd say "no, even for two-year-olds, even for babies, they should have a Hispanic foster parent!!!".

What about all the white people that go to China and bring back the little Chinese girls? I'm all for it. But, the same people that want only hispanics raising hispanic children will applaud the whites going to China.

12 posted on 05/28/2004 6:59:04 PM PDT by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: JoanneSD
YOu must realize that Spanish is the culture of force..

What in the world are you talking about?

13 posted on 05/28/2004 7:09:33 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Coleus
My beloved sister is adopted, and is Hispanic-Honduran, to be precise. She has always known that she is adopted, and that she is Hispanic; we have made sure that she at least keeps some Spanish, and have continued to keep her in touch with her foster family in Honduras. But there is no doubt in her mind who her real family is, and feels insulted when people expect her to "be" Latin. She has grown up to be a very bright, assertive and independent-minded young woman (she is only turning thirteen next month, but she is mature enough that I can call her a woman), and I am proud to call her my sister. I can honestly say from experience that it shouldn't matter what the ethnic or cultural background of a family is, when what really matters is that a child be placed in a loving and caring environment.
14 posted on 05/28/2004 7:23:54 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: JoanneSD
The good news is that a person who grows up in tis country and cannot speak English is practically a guarantee of continued labor supply for the hospitality and landscaping industries. You know, the jobs Americans don't want.
15 posted on 05/28/2004 7:27:09 PM PDT by Bernard
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To: ikka
Are all of the children proven to be here legally? If not, they should either be deported

Especially those who would be so traumatized by American culture --- those need to be deported back to Mexico where the culture won't traumatize them.

16 posted on 05/28/2004 7:29:28 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Coleus
No child should lose their culture, their sense of identity when circumstances require they be removed from their home.

Maybe the culture is the problem ?

17 posted on 05/28/2004 7:38:02 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: Clemenza
OK, but do we put a poor, black Dominican child from Paterson in the house of a wealthy, blonde Argentinean couple in Ridgewood?

Well ---- they'd both be "hispanic" so it must not be traumatizing. Culturally though they wouldn't be the same. Nor is a Mexican culturally the same as a Puerto-Rican etc.

18 posted on 05/28/2004 7:41:00 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Coleus
Eighteen percent of the 65,000 foster children in New Jersey are Hispanic, but only 250 foster homes are bilingual and equipped to handle their needs, state officials say.

Maybe if the politicians would stop pandering to illegals, there wouldn't be such an imbalance.

And it should be obvious that any culture which produces so many children in need of government assistance is superior. Heaven forbid we should remove anyone from it.

19 posted on 05/28/2004 7:45:40 PM PDT by Moonman62
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To: FITZ

Western Civilization will be a thing of the past.


20 posted on 05/28/2004 7:50:03 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

If she wants culture, she should go back to her own country.


21 posted on 05/28/2004 7:54:07 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Coleus

>>"We do not want to traumatize a child a second time by placing him or her in a home that does not understand their culture or where there may a language barrier,"

I remember hearing similar nonesense a few years ago. There were self appoint spokepeople from the black community claiming the white 'family' adopting black children would 'traumatize' them since the white community didn't know the culture.

IOW, this is propaganda to hide the fact that there are numbers (children) showing a negative outlook to the culture.


22 posted on 05/28/2004 8:00:59 PM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Calpernia

And I thought the liberals believed there was STRENGTH in Diversity. Oh, that's right, they only use that term when they want to get elected or for an issue to their benefit.


23 posted on 05/28/2004 8:08:02 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus
Quintana says that staying in a home that is culturally familiar helps foster children feel a sense of comfort and continuity.

Try publicly stating that you want to rear your children in "white" culture and you'd be arrested by the hate police.

Only "whites" are not allowed to have a "culture" that they can impart to their children.

24 posted on 05/28/2004 8:17:15 PM PDT by twas
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To: Clemenza

Is Limey okay?


25 posted on 05/28/2004 8:39:58 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: razorback-bert; jjbrouwer
Is Limey okay?

Thoughts on the issue jj?

26 posted on 05/28/2004 8:49:22 PM PDT by Clemenza (Strolling along country roads with my baby...)
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To: longtermmemmory

We live in a very strange time, when discrimination, is government subsidized, and some types of people are not good enough even though they are the backbone of society.


27 posted on 05/28/2004 9:25:17 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Coleus

Housing discrimination is another well-kept state secret. Many landlords would rather rent to those on assistance, because they can be sure of the government check. Sometimes they prejudge you before you get out of the car - if you're white, don't bother.


28 posted on 05/28/2004 9:29:29 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: Coleus

I have nothing good to say here.


29 posted on 05/28/2004 10:27:45 PM PDT by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; ...
Race-obsessed government morons are applauded for screwing up children's lives. Yippeee.

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

30 posted on 05/28/2004 10:40:01 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt: Pray for Terri Schindler-Schiavo!)
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To: Clemenza
If you call this Polish/Italian American "English" I will get VERY pissed off! :-)

So would the English!

31 posted on 05/29/2004 12:10:13 AM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: twas

There is a big double standard in this country.


33 posted on 05/29/2004 7:04:29 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: joesnuffy

No, they are never traumatized when they collect the seciton 8 and other subsidies which the white man contributes every week when he gets paid.


34 posted on 05/29/2004 7:06:15 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Clemenza

WE also have our share of Spanish people from Europe in Mexico..and they are here as well..my neighbor has two kids fathered by one .on welfare of course. I dont care where you come from dont force this Mexican, spanish or what ever culture on our kids, which is being done... at the expense of kids struggling to learn in America


35 posted on 05/30/2004 10:25:22 AM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: JoanneSD
There are practically NO Spanish people in Mexico, as it never attracted immigrants after the colonial period. Mexico's current population is about 69% mixed race, 30% Indian and less than 1% white of any European origin. The only Spaniards you meet in the United States tend to be University Professors or white collar employees of multinational firms. Since Spain is a wealthy nation with a low birth rate, it hasn't sent too many immigrants anywhere and, as a matter of fact, is currently being inundated with immigrants from the Middle East , Africa and Latin America.

In short, calling a Mexican or Bolivian "Spanish" just because they speak Spanish makes about as much sense as calling a black Jamaican or Chinese American "English."

36 posted on 05/31/2004 12:06:18 PM PDT by Clemenza (Strolling along country roads with my baby...)
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