Posted on 05/29/2004 9:29:18 PM PDT by Kaslin
Here's an article about the great cookie venture.
http://www.hillnews.com/news/012804/kerry.aspx
Kerry slimed Nam vets... some of them remember too... alas, few in the press remember.
And Kerry defended Clinton's draft dodging against Veteran GHWB (whose plane crashed into the south pacific, and who lived only because he was saved by a sub) and against Bob Dole (Who was hit in Italy while trying to save a fellow soldier, and ended up paralyzed in a VA hospital for months).
So only pc anti war sliming veterans whose war wounds didn't lead to hospitalization and who served all of 4 months count as a veteran...
<< .... Tad Devine, a campaign adviser, said of the steady stream of military references. "That experience is a central part of his life. >>
Bullshit. It defines the black hole that is his character but otherwise is but a one one-hundred-and-eighty-sixth part of his life.
And more than 95% of all the guys he claims to have "served with," have publicly stated their loathing for the despicable bastard's behavior while he was in Vietnam, for his having manipulated his extraction from Vietnam -- and their contempt and despising for his perjuries, his treason, his aid to our nation's enemies and his complicity and cooperation with them after his running from Vienam.
Having not lost even a single battle and/or other engagement with the enemy in Vietnam, our beloved FRaternal Republic's Armed Forces were defeated at home in America by such loathsome and fearsome scum as John Fonda Kohnkerry -- and on the basis of his contrived Vietnam "service," except in Taxachooseits, that Lurch-lookalike ugly botoxed bastard couldn't win a race for ratcatcher.
An uncle of mine (who kind of raised me after my dad split), was in Patton's 3rd Army, 4th Armored Division and was in Bastogne in the Battle of the Bulge (among other fun places).
He NEVER talked about it (or his wounds). That is until about 1962-63 when a family moved in downstairs and it turned out that the father was in Bastogne too. He was in the 101st Airborne. Those two had a unique experience to share, but even then is was a short talk as I recall.
Also, one of my best friends (US Army) survived an NVA ambush where only 12 made it back alive out of a whole frickin Company (He received a Bronze Star). I was the only one of the guys he shared this with.
Another guy I knew and hung around with in the 1970's was a Marine and was wounded at Khe Sahn in '68 (he was shot in the Buttocks - seriously). He was almost 'embarrassed' to talk about what he'd accomplished.
So yes, real Hero's DON'T brag. Ergo, John Kerry is NO hero.
I just finished reading the book:
Flyboys: A True Story of Courage
About The Pilots shot down over Chichi Jima.
With Bush I being one of them
A very good read
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=17-0316105848-2
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0316105848/104-3773101-3790308?v=glance
I know what your saying! And when you do pull out or hear one of there stories.. You just shake your head and go.. DAM!
Or in the case of my Uncle.
When we would get together and go Deer Hunting. He was know as the worst shot! I mean if you put him Inside the barn he could miss the side of it!
Now he was a Helicopter mechanic. But his last tour was at some type of front line fire base. ( like I said he never really talks about this tour )
Now the first season he was back from his last tour. Were out in the deer woods opening day. And this smart old Buck that we had been after for several years. Jumps up about 30-40 yd. in front of him. And starts bouncing throughout the brush & tall grass.
From the hip with an old double barreled shotgun Bam. first shot thought the backbone. Bam 2nd thought the juggler.
Luck ?? I don't think so! I was the next person over in the line on our drive. I seen how he took those shots!
Or some of the few stores my Dad pulled out of my Great Uncle when he was a kid. He told me about.
Like the time he had his throat mike shot off or when a 109 shattered the new bullet proof glass they just installed in his station ( he started as a tail gunner) or....
Whooo just dam!
In the case of my friend's dad, he had been with a unit that helped liberate one the Nazi concentration camps, Buchenwald, I think. So, he wouldn't talk about that, I think. And there's another man in my home town, still living, who was captured and in a German Prison Camp.
There is one man here in Tuscaloosa who does talk about his war experience, but I think he's the exception. His name is Burt Bank, and he wrote a book called "Back From the Living Dead," about the Bataan death march after being captured by the Japanese on Bataan. I remember my husband having that book when we married nearly 30 years ago, and he's still got it around here somewhere.
Do you still deer hunt?
Well I hadn't for the last few years. Because of the SSN# to get your hunting license thing.
But my 2nd. daughter wanted to go hunting. So I gave in to the NWO and now munching on some dried Venison. ( and yup she has the hunting gene, can't wait to go this fall and nuts over venison)
My Uncle felt so sorry for the deer that was the last year he went hunting. But he probably did the deer a favor. He was so old his teeth were all worn down so he would have a hard time making it thought the winter.
shooting from the hip takes some practice and a lot of ammo. But once mastered is a very fast dead on way of shooting. But who knows. One of my other Uncles ( the youngest brother) is a dead eye shot! One time we were all practicing one time. Shooting at a target we had in the center of an old tire. That was tied up in a tree at a 100 yd. And were swinging back & forth. With 12 Ga. & rifle slugs. He goes " enough this easy stuff " and shoots the rope. ( yes it was swinging at the time) " Ya right lucky
shot " every one goes.
" Well tie it back up and I'll do it once more" So we tied it back up, give it a swing and does it once more.
Here's another interesting book
Corregidor
Oasis of Hope
By Asbury Nix 1991
ISBN 0-942495-19-5
Mr. Nix was a Pfc statined in the Philippines in 1939 and in Jan of 1942 Fort Mills Corregidor. And was one of the very lucky ones.
After his capture was assigned to clean up and salvage of Corregidor. And afterwards shipped to Japan to work in a Copper mine. And because of this had relatively good living conditions and treatment as compared to many others.
A Stevens Point, Wis., resident, served with the 34th Light Maintenance Company on Bataan. He recounts the experiences of his unit during the campaign at Corregidor and goes on to relate his prisoner of war experience, work details and the Noto Maru prison ship. Also included are complete rosters for those held at POW Camp Number 9, names and statistics about the Japanese "Hell Ships," rosters of those on work details and a roster of people aboard the Noto Maru.
Shows another side to the war and POW. It a very good read! Being a local book I hope you can find it.
We have 3 children, 1 boy (oldest) and two girls. The middle child hunts, and her husband does, to. I've never seen ANYBODY hunt with the same success as our son-in-law. I told him the deer must hear he's in the woods and go, "oh, well, what's the use, I may as well go throw myself in front of the bullet." My husband goes out to Kansas every year to deer hunt, and while he was gone last winter our son-in-law walked out behind our house about 100 yards, and shoots a huge buck, right behind our house. We have a long deer season here, it starts Thanksgiving weekend (bow season starts Oct. 15, though) and lasts all the way to Jan 31st. This son-in-law can go to gather firewood with his dad and shoot a buck. All legally, given our liberal hunting laws around here. :-)
I think its a wonderful way for fathers to spend time with their children. My husband was more excited when our daughter killed her deer than any he's ever bagged himself. She said her scope hit her eye when she pulled the trigger, and she was saying, "oh, I'm bleeding," and her dad was saying, "baby, you got him, you got him!" and hugging her, completely ignoring her eye.
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