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Memorial Day thread...What's your Favorite WW II war movie?
one man's opinion

Posted on 05/30/2004 4:15:31 AM PDT by ken5050

If you happen to turn your TV set on at any time this Memorial Day weekend, there's a strong probability you'll come across a World War II war movie..... the classic Hollywood genre. There are many of them, and, happily a lot of very good ones. So, on this weekend of remembrance, and the dedication of the WW II memorial, what's your favorite, or favorites, and why?


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What's most amazing, from today's perspective, when one views the films produced DURING the war, how united the county was, how committed everyone was to the nobleness of the effort. If you watch any of these films on the various "movie networks" where they show ALL the credits, you'll always see the patriotic plea to "BUY WAR BONDS NOW" The audience would rush into the lobby of the theater after the show and purchase war bonds. Truly a different era. Indeed, many of the portrayals of Japanese and Germans would fail the PC test today.

But let's not delve too deeply into a study of film. Rather, just opine as to which you like best, and why.

I'm going to list my five top choices. Not ranking them, because they're not comparable, yet ALL tell a their story well.

"Twelve O'Clock High". Great cast, great story on two levels. The broad effort to make daylight precision bombing effective, and the study of the effects of war, the cost, on human lives. And not ONE female in the entire cast, even as an extra. Remember the scene where the adjutant and the doc are caught after having returned from going along on a bombing raid? When threatened with a court martial for disobeying orders if they do it again, , the two culprits innocently ask if the prohibition extends to the chaplain also, because he's been going along as well, and last mission he shot down a German fighter...

Note: As great as the film is, if you can find a copy of the novel, which is long out of print, buy it and read it.. "They Were Expendable"..stirring portrayal of the PT boats in the South Pacific. Shows how the issue of the fall of Corregidor, and MacArthur's bug-out to Australia, was presented to the war-time American public.

"A Walk in the Sun"..a rarely seen ( don't know why) "slice of war" film about an American platoon tasked to capture an enemy farmhouse. The first of the "all-American" type war films, where each member of the unit is a different ethnic American stereotype, and, oh, that great title song..

" The Bridge on the River Kwai". On all levels, spectacular. The "Colonel Bogie" theme music. The depiction of the brutalization of the POWs by the Japanese is an interesting contrast to those pics coming out of the Iraqi prison today. And Alec Guiness' portrayal of the Brit officer's descent into madness, without judging him, is superb.

"30 seconds over Tokyo"..As wartime propagana, to rally an American homefront that had been receiving nothing but bad news for months, this was a superb effort. Worth watching alone for the unforgettable scene of the bomber diving under the Golden Gate bridge, against that superb theme music.

"The Battle of Britain" ..My choice of all the "docu-drama war films, far better, I think, than "The Longest Day", or "A bridge too Far"..because of the superb aerial photography.

"The Best Years of Our Lives". Nothing to be said, except that one could make the argument that it really isn't a "war" film, in the classic definition. It's a study of the effects of war, but the viewer's mind makes the connection. There are several superb scenes int he movie. The shot from the nose of the bomber, as it flies over thousands of now-grounded planes, is the first hint, though it wasn't intended that way, of what post-war America would become. And of course, the scene where Homer finally allows his fiance to help him remove his prostheses; it served to remind Americans that many who came back, came back far different than when then left.

Note: The movie is based on MacKinlay Kantor's novella "Glory for Me"..alas, long out of print, but if you can find it, well worth the read. Kantor is one of our finest American writers; sadly few today know who he is.

Last thoughts. As we today bemoan "Hollywood", as exemplified by Michael Moore, Barbra Streisand, and countless others, it's almost hard to believe that not too long ago, there was time when the motion picture industry represented all that was good about this country.

1 posted on 05/30/2004 4:15:31 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Howlin; JohnHuang2

FYI..ping list please


2 posted on 05/30/2004 4:16:42 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050
I have two.

Enemy at the Gates

and,

Saving Private Ryan.

3 posted on 05/30/2004 4:19:53 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("I caughts a rheumatism a chancin' on the snow. I killed me seven yankees, I'd like to kill some mo')
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To: ken5050

The Bridge on the River Kwai, Sands of Iwo Jima, Battle Cry, Saving Private Ryan, Enemy at the Gates...


4 posted on 05/30/2004 4:20:50 AM PDT by VaMarVet
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To: Dave Dilegge
This list wouldn't be complete without:

The Dirty Dozen.

No one will ever top Lee Marvin.

No one!

5 posted on 05/30/2004 4:24:14 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("I caughts a rheumatism a chancin' on the snow. I killed me seven yankees, I'd like to kill some mo')
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong

Good films when I was writing the piece, I was almost tempted to exclude films made after 1980, because they feel, and look diffeent..the whole "apocalypse Now" perspective..focusing on War as evil..ignoring that there are bad people, and bad countries in the world...BTW..md bad..my list of "5" ended up being "6"


6 posted on 05/30/2004 4:24:23 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

FYI


7 posted on 05/30/2004 4:25:45 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: Liz

G'morning...


8 posted on 05/30/2004 4:26:21 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050

Midway/ A great movie and history lesson. The battle which gave us the upper hand over the Japanese.
The Devils Brigade/ Excellent character study of a commanding officer and the heavy toll that wartime decision making takes.
I cannot remember the name of the movie where the US and Canadien forces train together and go off on a difficult mission, but this movie has it all. Humor, sadness, intensity.


9 posted on 05/30/2004 4:27:23 AM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers
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To: ken5050
Still. All and all, a great list.

This will probably already be up there when this is posted, but I think I'd like to be one of the first to mention:

Patton.

10 posted on 05/30/2004 4:29:56 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("I caughts a rheumatism a chancin' on the snow. I killed me seven yankees, I'd like to kill some mo')
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To: ken5050

Modern war movies are like modern westerns. Most of them suck.


11 posted on 05/30/2004 4:31:05 AM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

The Devil's Brigade was the film about the joint US/Canadian Special forces Commando..great film..Midway was ruined by the PC story line about the Navy pilot whose fiance was Japanese-American, and was interred with her family...For aerial footage, Tora 3x was better..


12 posted on 05/30/2004 4:31:38 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050

Bridge on the River Kwai, The Great Escape, Patton, The Longest Day, Saving Private Ryan, Midway, Tora Tora Tora


13 posted on 05/30/2004 4:31:52 AM PDT by theDentist (John Kerry never saw a TAX he wouldn't HIKE !!!)
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To: ken5050

The Old Geezer here, again... BY FAR.... FROM HERE TO ETERNITY... THE BEST MOVIE OF WHAT MILITARY LIFE IN THE ARMY WAS ALL ABOUT. EVERY-DAY LIFE OF THE GI... HIS UP'S AND DOWNS.... WHAT HE DID WHILE ON LEAVE... THE LIFE AMONG HIS COMRADS AND ESPECIALLY THE CORRUPTION OF HIGHER UPS.. AND FINALLY AT THE WINK OF AN EYE TURNED INTO A GREAT FIGHTING MACHINE....

GOD BLESS THOSE MEN OF THE 'GREATESST GENERATION'... CWEY FEW OF US LEFT. STRETCH


14 posted on 05/30/2004 4:31:58 AM PDT by Stretch (Stretch: The Old Geezer from Apple Va. Cal and Cumming Ga. (God's Country.) Long Live America!!)
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To: Miss Marple; areafiftyone

wanna opine, and/or ping...?


15 posted on 05/30/2004 4:32:40 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050
12 O'Clock High, with Gregory Peck, provides some lessons in leadership.
16 posted on 05/30/2004 4:33:33 AM PDT by pt17
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To: ken5050

"Saving Private Ryan"

"Schindler's List"

When I was a kid, my favorite was "Ambush Bay."


17 posted on 05/30/2004 4:34:03 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
I thought Tora, Tora, Tora was a great movie to give you the behind the scenes workings of the United States and Japan hours before the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Battle of the Bulge, and Patton also come to mind.

The Battle of Britian is also a good one.

Favorite though... I'm still thinking on that one.

18 posted on 05/30/2004 4:34:27 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
Haven't you seen "Tombstone" and "Unforgiven?"
19 posted on 05/30/2004 4:34:50 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("I caughts a rheumatism a chancin' on the snow. I killed me seven yankees, I'd like to kill some mo')
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong

Oh yeah, I forgot "The Dirty Dozen." Great movie, and I enjoyed the book, as well. Also, "Kelly's Heroes."


20 posted on 05/30/2004 4:35:52 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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