Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Question: Why is America Targeted? (Al Jazeera has Dem talking points or vice versa)
Al Jazeerah ^ | May 30, 2004 | John W. Willmott

Posted on 05/30/2004 4:21:51 PM PDT by FairOpinion

This is addressed equally to many addressees and the U.S. Government as extremely vital information and an advisory to those at the highest levels of education, defense and Government. I am here because of the declining condition of American security, reputation, credibility, respect and prosperity brought on by flawed U.S. foreign policy, failed and or no diplomacy and the use of threats, strangling illegal embargoes, Presidential imperialist sanctions and the illegal, preemptive and unilateral use of the U.S. Military against other sovereign peoples and nations.

Some of you will adamantly disagree with my previous statement. That is your right just as it is mine to speak up when I see America now in a worse situation as regards to security and respect by other nations. This decline began before George W. Bush came to office. But when he came to office as “legal” de juris President by order of the Supreme Court with less than half of the popular vote and thereby, he had no “mandate” to summarily abrogate treaties, International Laws, threaten other nations to do it the Bush way or else and insult not only long time allies, opponents and those considered enemies or potential enemies. I base all of this on the “facts” as reported in news media and “facts on the ground” and the political and military and tactical and “terrorist” response that happened since he took office.

As of now, Bush’s illegal, preemptive attack on a contained, powerless nation which was no threat to America has met its “Waterloo” in meeting a people who were grateful for Saddam’s removal but due to American ignorance, arrogance and willfully, stupid and obscene acts in total disregard of human rights, Geneva and common sense are now determined to assert - to the death - their own sovereignty without Bush retaining final say over their future.

The American people, in blind ignorance- cheered on the “shock and awe” of American armor amidst red desert dust with flags flying taking over Iraq with virtually no resistance. Any good will vanished because Bush built a house of cards without the foundation of law, justice, respect for life itself and the approval of more than 5 billion of the some 6 billion of the world’s people.

May 24 at Carlisle, most of the TV media refused to air Bush who offered sovereignty but not sovereignty so again he offered nothing but his same colonialism by force which is outlawed by all nations after the defeat of Hitler for doing just what Bush and Sharon, his surrogate, are now doing. Security will come when Palestine is free as the U.N. provides and the U.S. abides by the law and will of the “World of Nations!” Please acknowledge, forward and comments welcome. I have more coming.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aidandcomfort; algorelostgetoverit; aljazeera; antisemite; lyingliar; religiousintolerance; sympathizers; traitor
Do we need any more evidence?
1 posted on 05/30/2004 4:21:52 PM PDT by FairOpinion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

Why are we targeted? Very simple--I don't know why anyone asks this question... It's because we've aligned ourselves with Israel. If we were to turn our back on Israel, the terrorism against the US would likely stop. Of course, the world would not be a better place, though.


2 posted on 05/30/2004 4:26:05 PM PDT by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

Also because its a east target


3 posted on 05/30/2004 4:31:49 PM PDT by al baby (Hope I don't get into trouble for this)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: al baby

easy


4 posted on 05/30/2004 4:32:08 PM PDT by al baby (Hope I don't get into trouble for this)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
"Some of you will adamantly disagree with my previous statement."

He got something correct.

5 posted on 05/30/2004 4:32:37 PM PDT by CWOJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

"If we were to turn our back on Israel, the terrorism against the US would likely stop. "

You are very wrong on that. We are still infidels. They want to eradicate all infidels.


6 posted on 05/30/2004 4:35:19 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

Who is John W. Willmott and why should we care what his opinion is?


7 posted on 05/30/2004 4:42:35 PM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

It appears I will never agree with al-Jazeera. They are simply more of the depraved monsters who are members of the cult of death.


8 posted on 05/30/2004 4:43:54 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant
Question: Why is America Targeted?

Answer:

Rival 'Drug-lord' Gangs of International 'plate'...?

(Terf Wars)

/sarcasm?

9 posted on 05/30/2004 4:44:01 PM PDT by maestro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: sauropod

Click on the link. It might not tell you who he is but it will show you where he's come from. I'd say he's a hero of the crowd that likes the fling around the "neo-con" title.


10 posted on 05/30/2004 4:44:48 PM PDT by CWOJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant
If we were to turn our back on Israel, the terrorism against the US would likely stop.

I doubt that very much.

11 posted on 05/30/2004 4:47:03 PM PDT by luvbach1 (In the know on the border)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant
If we were to turn our back on Israel, the terrorism against the US would likely stop.

I think terrorism would continue, because most of us are not Muslims, and they want Islam to dominate the world.

12 posted on 05/30/2004 4:47:04 PM PDT by Mark17
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: sauropod

I did a Google search -- seems he is on the side of the Muslim extremists and hates Jews and America.

And writes for Al Jazeerah.

The sad thing is that the Democrats say the same things exactly.

Maybe he is getting paid by both the Democrats and the terrorists.


13 posted on 05/30/2004 4:48:39 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

Nope, it's mainly Israel. It's the factor that unites all the disparate groups. That's not a slam against Israel, it's just the facts.


14 posted on 05/30/2004 4:48:52 PM PDT by PFC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Mark17

Yes, but in the short run, they'd have more pressing targets in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia. The US would not be at the top of their hit list.


15 posted on 05/30/2004 4:49:58 PM PDT by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

Disagree. If that was the case, than there wouldn't be Christians in Nigeria and Sudan being terrorized by this cult of Islam.


16 posted on 05/30/2004 4:53:24 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong. - Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

Why are we targeted? Ummmm... ask the people of Afghanistan, Lybia, Africa, Spain, and about 50 other nations under attack from EVIL. Anything that doesn't advance the agenda of evil, will always be under attack.


17 posted on 05/30/2004 4:53:54 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

I don't know if you are being anti-semitic with a purpose or if it is a genuinely held sentiment .

The comment shows you don't understand the nature of the conflict. Islamic fundamentalism is on the move everywhere.

It is true that Isreal has been the favorite target but it isn't the only one.

Islam has been at war with the West for a generation. There has been war between conflict between Packistan and India,
There has been slaughter of christians in the Philipines and in Maylasia. There was recently an attack against the police by 200 armed insurgents in Tailand.

Militant islam would murder every Jew, Christian, Hindu, Zorastrian, Secular Humanist, Shinto, Atheist, Sunni , Pagan, Celt on earth if they failed to convert.

The only thing this has to do with the Jews, is they hate the Jew's slightly more because Israel has humiliated Arab/Moslem armies in 1948, 1956, 1968 and 1973.


18 posted on 05/30/2004 5:01:21 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What do they call children in Palestine? Unexploded ordinance)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

Well then, why are Christians targeted in Pakistan, Egypt, the Phillipines, the Sudan? Why have Hindus been targeted in India for hundreds of years? Why did the Ottoman Turks menace Vienna in the 17th century? Aha, I have it! The Islamists already knew hundreds of years ago that Israel would be created and they were making a preemptive strike!


19 posted on 05/30/2004 5:02:00 PM PDT by DianeDePoitiers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
You almost have to admire his sophomoric prose:

I am here because of the declining condition of American security, reputation, credibility, respect and prosperity brought on by flawed U.S. foreign policy, failed and or no diplomacy and the use of threats, strangling illegal embargoes, Presidential imperialist sanctions and the illegal, preemptive and unilateral use of the U.S. Military against other sovereign peoples and nations.

And I'll bet the bozo had to inhale three times before reading that screed out loud. We would be more grateful if someone were here to save us from the author's preemptively, unilaterally, strangling, imperialistically turgid prose. Even an overdose of Ex-Lax couldn't cleanse the author of this piece. He also makes the gross mistake of counting America out too soon. That's been done before, but history is only recorded for those that want to read it.

20 posted on 05/30/2004 5:03:35 PM PDT by xJones
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant
The US would not be at the top of their hit list.

We don't know that for sure either. We are the top dog in the world, so they might target us anyway. We should be eliminating them as fast as we can, so they can't get here, even though many of them are already living in the US.

21 posted on 05/30/2004 5:06:09 PM PDT by Mark17
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: CWOJackson

Lord Haw-haw lives!

Are we sure it isn't roberrt Fisk?


22 posted on 05/30/2004 5:06:54 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tet68

I'm wondering what his freeper name is?


23 posted on 05/30/2004 5:07:36 PM PDT by CWOJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant

Brilliant, if you are not a troll and have an open mind, think about this. Know Thy Enemy! What has the enemy said for 30 years? Israel is the little Satan, the USA is the Great Satan. If we throw Israel to the wolves, we'll only end up with more wolves. BTW, Osama Bin Laden before 9/11 had hardly said two words about Israel.


24 posted on 05/30/2004 5:11:05 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

I wonder if he's the same John W. Willmott who at http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/debate/wilmot2.htm was urging Muslims to unite and was asking, "Any of you know where I can post a pro freedom and justice website free from Jewish or U.S. Government intervention?"


25 posted on 05/30/2004 5:13:46 PM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jabba the Nutt

If we throw Israel to the wolves, we'll only end up with more wolves.

Oh, it will be the same number of wolves, but they'll just have one target, us.


26 posted on 05/30/2004 5:14:36 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire

I found that site as well, when I was trying to figure out who this guy is. From the sound of it, it's probably the same one.


27 posted on 05/30/2004 5:15:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

the declining condition of American security, reputation, credibility, respect and prosperity brought on by flawed U.S. foreign policy, failed and or no diplomacy and the use of threats, strangling illegal embargoes, Presidential imperialist sanctions and the illegal, preemptive and unilateral use of the U.S. Military against other sovereign peoples and nations.


Isn't it amazing what George W.Bush has been able to accomplish in such a short time!
Why, X42 couldn't do this in 8 years!


28 posted on 05/30/2004 5:17:41 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RippleFire

Boy, you talk about kooks!They got 'em at that website.


29 posted on 05/30/2004 5:23:13 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
"Why are we targeted?"

No brainer. It ain't our Bill of Rights or they want our women to wear Burkas. It is because we have military bases on their lands just like we were targeted in Vietnam. It is their 'Monroe Doctrine'.

So if we want to be there, we have to expect opposition. Our decision is based on - is it is worth it? We believe it is worth it - either for oil, for Israel or to assert power. So people should not act surprised -'targeting' that's what happens in war. And the war has been going on a lot prior to 9/11.

30 posted on 05/30/2004 5:28:44 PM PDT by ex-snook (They had their chance. Dump all incumbents who won't bring back outsourced America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ex-snook

Anyone who thinks that if we pulled out of the Middle East and allowed Israel to be obliterated would result in the terrorists not targeting us is hopelessly naive.

They expressed it numerous times, that they want to turn the entire world into some Islamic Empire.


31 posted on 05/30/2004 5:31:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant
It's because we've aligned ourselves with Israel.

You're right. It would be much better to line up with the House of Saud. Large black garbage bags would be immediately required for all our women, plus they would have to sit in the back seats of cars driven only by male relatives. But the good news is that our men only have to practice Islam when they're in the Kingdom, and outside they can gamble, booze and whore just like the thousands of Saudi males.

It might be a little difficult at first because al-Queda (who really knows how to spell that?) was formed in Saudi Arabia and their people did bring down the two World Trade Center Towers, but when all else fails we can always blame everything on the Israelis. And just think how the U.N. will love it because condemning Israel is their favorite pastime.

It's so much easier than condemning any other country, no matter what atrocities they've done. Zimbabwe, Cuba, North Korea, etc. are irreproachable, but you can always get votes against Israel as the world knows. Let's go with the Saudis.

32 posted on 05/30/2004 5:32:08 PM PDT by xJones
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: tet68

We are targeted because most of the non-Christian world sees us as a decaying society that they want no part of.

They view us as infidels because of things such as gay marriage, abortion, drug use, no justice, anti religious and everything in between. They see us as a virus, waiting to spread our infectious society on theirs. Their only option is to eradicate it in the name of Islam.

Funny thing, in this country practicing this type of behavior is what the ACLU believes the first Amendment provides for us. The Moslem world views this with disdain.

While it is true there is hatred for the Jews, that is their form of self loathing. They hate the Jews because of their jealousy. Not unlike how the liberals hate the conservatives.

American liberalism, starting during the Johnson administration and going farther and farther to the left each year is the primary cause of most of the world hating America. Once we were strong. We were decisive in our global war against communism. We were a nation that believed that given the chance, anyone regardless of race, creed or religion could excel at whatever it was he or she wanted to excel at.

Look at who wants to prevent that from happening. Look at who, under the guise of being protected by the first amendment wants to prevent freedom of speech, freedom to practice religion and other basic rights given to us by the Constitution.

The minute we became a society where deviance was rewarded and power was gained by selling out the citizenry, we no longer were respected by the rest of the world. If you cannot respect yourself, why should anyone else respect you.

That is why we are hated.


33 posted on 05/30/2004 5:41:55 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Only difference between the liberals and the Nazis is that the liberals love the Communists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
"They expressed it numerous times, that they want to turn the entire world into some Islamic Empire. "

Don't disagree with you on that. It is a matter of choice of weapons. Our weapon is military. I don't see them charging into battle on camels waving AK47s. Their weapon is motherhood.

Their battlefield is migrating increased population while we kill off our children. They will utilize Time, Democracy, and Economics [the need for workers]. If you hire them, they will come and if they come they will vote. Check out expected Europe in a hundred years. Wonder how Islam plans to takeover China?

34 posted on 05/30/2004 5:47:28 PM PDT by ex-snook (They had their chance. Dump all incumbents who won't bring back outsourced America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: sauropod; CWOJackson; FairOpinion
1. No freakin' clue.

2. Don't give a rat's ass!

Now that that's out of the way, some other thoughts:

Whoever wrote this piece will be glad to know that the past three victors in American presidential races have gotten "under half" of the popular vote. That's how we do it in a democratic republic, ass-munch!

It's de jure,

you tool!

Uh, what was my point again?

Oh yeah. Al Jazeera should get a newer name, slightly more reflective of its true colors.

Maybe something along the lines of: "The pack of horse-teethed Jackasses!

I kind of think that's better than calling them, "The Peninsula."

What do you think?

35 posted on 05/30/2004 5:55:45 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("I caughts a rheumatism a chancin' on the snow. I killed me seven yankees, I'd like to kill some mo')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
This decline began before George W. Bush came to office. But when he came to office as “legal” de juris President by order of the Supreme Court with less than half of the popular vote and thereby, he had no “mandate” to summarily abrogate treaties, International Laws, threaten other nations to do it the Bush way or else and insult not only long time allies, opponents and those considered enemies or potential enemies.

Algore Junior LOST, get over it. President Bush got 0.52% less of the popular vote, there was no mandate for Algore to be President. Additionally the Republicans gained seats in 2002. That is President Bush's mandate.

Candidate Bush got a larger percentage of voters and a larger number of voters than Bill Clinton EVER got (in 1992 or 1996). The press never said that Bill Clinton did not have a mandate to go deploying troops around the globe.

36 posted on 05/30/2004 6:24:45 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
"... They want to eradicate all infidels."


Islamofacscists want to eradicate Christianity and Judism from the face of the earth.
37 posted on 05/30/2004 6:26:20 PM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: EQAndyBuzz
Very well said.

Look at who wants to prevent that from happening. Look at who, under the guise of being protected by the first amendment wants to prevent freedom of speech, freedom to practice religion and other basic rights given to us by the Constitution.

The minute we became a society where deviance was rewarded and power was gained by selling out the citizenry, we no longer were respected by the rest of the world. If you cannot respect yourself, why should anyone else respect you.

Our very freedoms are being turned against the people. And liberal Democrats are the first to cry 'repression' and then try to repress their ideological opponents.

You're a 'homophobe' if you think that the human anatomy wasn't designed for anal sex and fisting. Don't mention the Christian God that the founders mentioned all the time.

It goes on and on, while the traditional fabric is torn apart and there are no real borders, anyone can be a citizen if they sneak into the U.S. and have an anchor baby. But these are future Democratic voters and the Republican Party goes right along.

Why expect respect if we don't respect ourselves, indeed.

38 posted on 05/30/2004 8:18:21 PM PDT by xJones
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

Bottom line: George W. Bush had the courage to do the right thing no matter what the consequences. He may win or he may lose the next election, but if he loses, at least we had a president with the courage to do the right thing for four years. You can't say that about Bubba Clinton, and if Kerry becomes president, you won't be able to say that about him.

Courage, integrity, values: W.


39 posted on 05/30/2004 9:25:24 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

If we fail Israel, we are meat.


40 posted on 05/30/2004 10:22:50 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

Does the term sedition mean anything anymore?


41 posted on 05/30/2004 10:24:35 PM PDT by jnarcus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dan from Michigan

What you're not considering is that a Muslim living in Nigeria doesn't have to go out of his way to kill the Christian living next door. Wherever they are, there will be murder and mayhem. But there aren't very many Muslims in the US, and the few that there are are controllable. If the Muslims in Nigeria don't have a reason to go out of their way to kill us, they will instead focus on their own neighbors. Of course, that's not a great success story, but nevertheless true.


42 posted on 05/31/2004 7:09:38 AM PDT by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

Congratulations! You've just won the 2004 Vladimir Lenin award for Useful Idiot of the Year.

Are u going to Disney now?


43 posted on 05/31/2004 8:33:56 PM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us liberty, and we owe Him courage in return)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CGVet58
You obviously didn't even read all the title and have not stopped for one microsecond to think about it.

My point was that the Democrats and Al Jazeera sound alike: everything is the fault of Bush and the US.
44 posted on 05/31/2004 8:44:15 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion
Security will come when Palestine is free as the U.N. provides and the U.S. abides by the law and will of the “World of Nations!”

Whenever someone says this, I am compelled to inspect my firearms and inventory ammunition.

45 posted on 05/31/2004 8:58:16 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion; All

you're absolutely, partially right.

I did read the entire piece; and my response was directed at the author of the same.

You were just posting it, and I fired off a response directed at Wilmott, instead (because of my haste) catching you in "friendly fire".

I truly apologize, and have posted said apology to all readers of this thread as well (as my Aunt used to say, "if you soil the living room, there's no use cleaning the bathtub...").

CGVet58


46 posted on 06/01/2004 7:01:36 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us liberty, and we owe Him courage in return)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson