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A New Attack on Rush
National Review Online ^ | May 28, 2004 | Byron York

Posted on 05/30/2004 7:30:48 PM PDT by neverdem

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A New Attack on Rush
David Brock doesn't want American soldiers to hear Limbaugh.

David Brock, the former self-described "right-wing hit man" turned "progressive" activist, is escalating his campaign against conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh.

Brock runs a new organization called Media Matters for America, which, according to Brock, was created to fight "conservative misinformation" in the media (see "David Brock is Buzzing Again," NR, June 14, 2004). Earlier this month, Brock and Media Matters produced a television commercial attacking Limbaugh for comments about the Abu Ghraib prison-abuse scandal. Brock, who has raised more than $2 million for his new venture, spent $100,000 to air the spot on CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Fox, and ESPN.

Now, Brock has written a letter to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld asking that the Pentagon remove Limbaugh's program from the American Forces Radio and Television Service, formerly known as Armed Forces Radio. Arguing that Limbaugh has condoned the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib, Brock wrote, "It is abhorrent that the American taxpayer is paying to broadcast what is in effect pro-torture propaganda to American troops." Brock asked Rumsfeld to consider removing the Limbaugh program to "protect" American troops from Limbaugh's "reckless and dangerous messages." Brock also expressed concern that Limbaugh "continually uses prejudiced rhetoric that divides rather than unites Americans."

Brock based his letter in large part on a story that appeared Wednesday in the anti-Bush online magazine Salon. That article, "Rush's Forced Conscripts," in turn relied on Brock and other critics, like Limbaugh competitor Al Franken of the new liberal talk-radio network Air America, to accuse American Forces Radio of a "rightward tilt" and of airing a generous portion of Limbaugh while not allowing liberal voices to be heard. Limbaugh, according to Franken, provides "a bad message for troops to be hearing."

Salon editor David Talbot followed up, in "Turn Off Rush, Turn On Salon," by denouncing military broadcasters who, he said, give soldiers "a daily dose of poison from Rush Limbaugh." Talbot wrote that American Forces Radio "bombard[s]" military men and women with "Limbaugh's incendiary tirades, to the exclusion of all other voices."

"Rush's Forced Conscripts" discounted the argument of American Forces Radio chief Melvin Russell, who told Salon that his service included Limbaugh on the basis of Limbaugh's popularity, and that American Forces also provides programming from National Public Radio. That's not the same thing, Franken explained: "Rush's message is that liberals hate America, while NPR is straight-ahead reporting and journalism."

But American Forces Radio provides not only NPR programs like Morning Edition and All Things Considered but NPR commentary, as well. American military men and women abroad have access, for example, to the talk show of liberal host Diane Rehm. Indeed, Rehm's biographical sketch on the NPR website says her program is "heard on U.S. military instillations around the world via Armed Forces Radio." (For a schedule of NPR programs provided to American Forces Radio, click here.)

Military listeners can also hear NPR's Tavis Smiley Show, Talk of the Nation, and Fresh Air programs. Beyond NPR, listeners can also hear brief commentaries by former talk-show host Jim Hightower and CBS News anchorman Dan Rather. Viewed as a whole, the list of names suggests that military listeners, if they want to hear a variety of views, can do so on American Forces Radio.

But according to those who design its programming, the point of American Forces Radio is not to provide some sort of perfect ideological balance but rather to give military men and women a representative sample of the programming they could hear at home. To that end, American Forces Radio provides about 1,200 different programs to military radio stations around the world, which then make up their own schedules. "We try to provide a cross-section of programming that they would have available to [soldiers] were they stateside," says Melvin Russell. "We feel that the variety, the 1,200 programs that we offer each week, gives us that balance that we're looking for."

Most of those programs are music shows, but there is a significant news and talk lineup as well. If you liked to listen to Dr. Laura Schlessinger at home, and you're stationed in South Korea, you can listen to her there, too (the first hour of her program is included in American Forces Radio, just as the first hour of Limbaugh's program is provided). If you liked NPR's Car Talk at home, you can listen overseas, too. If you preferred Dan Patrick's ESPN Radio show, that's there, too.

Given that, it would be odd if American Forces Radio attempted to replicate the menu of radio choices available in the United States and decided not to include Limbaugh, who produces one of the most popular programs in America.

The reality is that the talk-radio market in the United States is not balanced; conservatives have been far more successful than liberals in making a product that people want to hear. That fact is the premise for the creation of the Air America network. Maybe that network will grow into a significant force, but for now, there is no dominant, single liberal voice on national radio today whose inclusion would be mandatory if one were making up a representative sample of American radio programming. Liberals have said as much many times as they (unsuccessfully) searched for that very thing.

As for Air America itself, it has been on the air less than two months, is heard on only a handful of stations, and faces an uncertain financial future. If it succeeds, portions of its programming might well be included in the American Forces lineup. For now, people on military bases with access to the Internet can listen to Air America on the web — just like they would at home.

The critics' real argument, it seems, is not so much with American Forces Radio, and the way it makes its programming decisions, as it is with Limbaugh himself. And that is nothing new.

 

     


 

 
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abughraib; afr; airamerica; armedforcesradio; brockisanancyboy; byronyork; davidbrock; iraq; rush; rushlimbaugh

1 posted on 05/30/2004 7:30:48 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

This article shouldn't even be necessary. But given the pressure on the administration applied by the liars in the media and their Democrat accomplices, no doubt it will be welcome.


2 posted on 05/30/2004 7:34:30 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neverdem
Brock is the Soros Brigade's "Limbaugh Assault Unit." The mainstream media has eagerly played along, as evidenced by the recent 'skull and bones initiation' non-scandal producing multiple editorials and huffs of 'outrage' from suitably stodgy media sources that deliberately took Brock's claims as true.

How long before Brock implodes, as 'Err Amerika' will any day now?

4 posted on 05/30/2004 7:36:19 PM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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To: neverdem

"""That's not the same thing, Franken explained: "Rush's message is that liberals hate America, while NPR is straight-ahead reporting and journalism.""""


Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha, best laugh I had all day.


5 posted on 05/30/2004 7:39:23 PM PDT by ChadsDad (If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.)
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To: atomicpossum

Brock has lost all credibility. He's been reduced to a pimping ho for the democrat party. Talk about falling from penthouse to outhouse.... that's David Brock!


6 posted on 05/30/2004 7:39:49 PM PDT by demkicker
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To: neverdem
If I remember right, Rush is only on for one hour. Perhaps a member of our fighting forces can confirm this.

If so, I will write a letter to Rumsfeld encouraging him to broadcast all three hours of Rush's show.

7 posted on 05/30/2004 7:40:22 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: neverdem

Brock is interested in uniting the country? Ya right!!


8 posted on 05/30/2004 7:41:27 PM PDT by Godfollow
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To: neverdem
Brock has written a letter to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld asking that the Pentagon remove Limbaugh's program from the American Forces Radio

Hey Brock, how about asking the soldiers themselves if they choose whether or not to listen to Limbaugh?

9 posted on 05/30/2004 7:41:28 PM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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To: neverdem

BROCK = A guilt laden yellow journalist who never stopped being a yellow journalist, just changed sides. God save us from born again liberals with an agenda.


10 posted on 05/30/2004 7:42:12 PM PDT by Casloy
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To: neverdem

"while NPR is straight-ahead reporting and journalism."

ROFLMAO!!!!


11 posted on 05/30/2004 7:47:14 PM PDT by AuntB (Lawschools are Americas Madrassas (aculeus))
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To: ChadsDad

"""That's not the same thing, Franken explained: "Rush's message is that liberals hate America, while NPR is straight-ahead reporting and journalism.""""


Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha, best laugh I had all day.



Any body got brock's address?? he needs to be deluged with the hate he spues.


12 posted on 05/30/2004 7:49:31 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...

13 posted on 05/30/2004 7:54:38 PM PDT by Born Conservative (It really sucks when your 15 minutes of fame comes AFTER you're gone...)
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To: Texas Eagle

I don't know who Brock is. I do know that Rush has been more than supportive of our troops. I heard him say recently that he is in complete awe when he contemplates these young Americans. Yes, our fighting forces should hear Rush three hours a day. One hour is not enough. He completely supports them and they need to hear that! I will also write to Rumsfeld.


14 posted on 05/30/2004 7:55:30 PM PDT by maxwellp (Throw the U.N. in the garbage where it belongs.)
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To: demkicker


I agree, David Brock makes me sick!


15 posted on 05/30/2004 7:59:21 PM PDT by fabriclady
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To: demkicker

Does Soros pay Brock more than ErrAmerika pays alFranken?


16 posted on 05/30/2004 7:59:29 PM PDT by get'emall (Kofi Annan: Lawn Jockey on the Arab Street.)
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To: get'emall

Just saw a flash report on Drudge that indicated that Al "the fathead" Franken is forgoing being paid by ErrAmerika in an attempt to keep it solvent - LOL!


17 posted on 05/30/2004 8:02:53 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Better fight the WOT in the Iraqi "holy" city of Najaf, than in the American holy city of New York.)
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To: neverdem

I truly think that these libs are dumber than a bucket of crap.

The supply and demand issue for libs is of no consequence when your life is based on nothing except being a total control freak.

Salon has no customer demand to speak of, and their advertisers don't want to pay money for such little exposure to key customers. Thus Salon.bomb is losing huge sums of money every quarter. Yet, they ONLY stay afloat by huge cash transfusions by rich libs who have a lot of money and no brains.

Back around 1993, the Toon whitehouse proclaimed that only 2% of the military wanted to listen to Rush, but of course, it was a load of crap. The truth was that only 2% had written on the questionaire that they would like to listen to Rush. Rush responded by threatening to have a poll commissioned to see who the miltary liked better, Rush or the Toon. Mike McMurry instantly backed down and dropped the subject. Later it came out that about 85-90% of the military regularly listened to Rush.


18 posted on 05/30/2004 8:07:00 PM PDT by HighWheeler (If you want to make a Conservative mad, lie to him. To make a liberal mad, tell him the truth.)
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To: neverdem

Why is the liberal answer to the conservative message "Suppress the Conservative message"


19 posted on 05/30/2004 8:09:02 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (NEOCON NOW)
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To: lowbridge

It's called "Armed Forces Radio". I know because my nephew used to run the West Coast operation.


21 posted on 05/30/2004 8:19:33 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Cicero
What is really surprising to me is the organization of the liberals to demonize President Bush and anyone connected to him: O'Neil; Clark; the former ambassador whose wife was supposedly working for the CIA; the books; the media; the attack on Rush; movies and Hollyweird; the attacks by Dashel, Kennedy, Pelosi, Byrd, Leahy, et. al; the 9-11 Commission; and I know I'm leaving out many things. Possibly, the elimination of all the Dim candidates except Kerry, Clintoon's and Kennedy's "next best thing to being there (in the White House)".

This has already been the nastiest election season I've ever known, and it's still May.

Am I delusional about all of this??
22 posted on 05/30/2004 8:43:19 PM PDT by Humal
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To: maxwellp; Born Conservative
I don't know who Brock is.

Somebody correct if I'm wrong, but Brock was a writer and conservative working for the American Spectator magazine, who wrote mostly about the Clintons and all their questionable behavior in Arkansas once Clinton secured the rat nomination in 1992. This continued harassment hounded Clinton almost throughout his presidency. Then around 5 - 6 years ago, he writes a book "Blinded by the Right" saying that he was an ignorant, useful idiot for the vast right wing conspiracy, said he was gay coming out of the closet, and he's been a hard core lefty since then.

23 posted on 05/30/2004 8:46:48 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: ChadsDad
"...while NPR is straight-ahead reporting and journalism..."
Ya just don't wanna know what these liberals smoking...
24 posted on 05/30/2004 9:10:26 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: neverdem

Remember the book about "The Real Anita Hill"? That was Brock. He has done a complete 180 to the dark side.


25 posted on 05/30/2004 9:13:12 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (President Bush has a September 12 mindset. John Kerry only has a November 2 obsession.)
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To: neverdem
people on military bases with access to the Internet can listen to Air America on the web — just like they would at home.

Nice backhanded slap to Err Amerika there.

26 posted on 05/30/2004 9:14:43 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (President Bush has a September 12 mindset. John Kerry only has a November 2 obsession.)
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To: neverdem

I am curious about Brock. He was supposed to be a conservative for so many years, but I wonder if he wasn't always a mole. He was a long time friend of Hillary Clinton having gone to college with her I believe. I just don't think someone switches sides so completely so suddenly.

There really is a war going on against Rush that is for sure. The left obviously fears him as they are doing everything in their power to discredit and silence him. How dare this puke presume that he should choose the listening material of the troops!

For the record, Rush didn't condone the so called abuses, he just thinks they were over reacted to for political purposes, as do I!!!!


27 posted on 05/30/2004 9:22:11 PM PDT by ladyinred (The leftist media is the enemy within.)
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To: Mike Darancette
Why is the liberal answer to the conservative message "Suppress the Conservative message"

While wanting dialog with the terrorists! They declared war on Rush, but are against war against terrorism! Hmmm.

28 posted on 05/30/2004 9:27:58 PM PDT by ladyinred (The leftist media is the enemy within.)
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To: neverdem

And Mr Brock because you are a liberal POS who happens to be counted among the presstitutes, and I am a lowly regular old person, that means The Secretary should heed your advice and not mine, right?


29 posted on 05/30/2004 9:42:56 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: Lazamataz

You called it right, even if it was deleted!!!


30 posted on 05/30/2004 9:43:02 PM PDT by SierraWasp (STOP PREMPTIVE JOURNALISM!!! A malevolent media can kill America's will, AGAIN!!!)
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To: ladyinred

From what I've seen of him, he's nothing but a lisping leftwing opportunist trying to cash in on whoever is fair game for the pooparatzzi in the political pornagraphy perpetrated by the prevailing provacatouers of progressiveness, in other words, he's a stinkin' lib.


31 posted on 05/30/2004 9:47:15 PM PDT by zygoat
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To: lowbridge

What? You can't give people a choice! We all must be subjects of the great utopians like brock and his kind.


32 posted on 05/30/2004 9:55:50 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: ladyinred
I am curious about Brock. He was supposed to be a conservative for so many years, but I wonder if he wasn't always a mole.

I wouldn't doubt it.

For the record, Rush didn't condone the so called abuses, he just thinks they were over reacted to for political purposes, as do I!!!!

Terrorists and non-uniformed fighters deserve summary judgment and execution, but further stories have been printed that say innocent detainees were tortured to death. How truthful they are, I don't know. Expect the rats to run with it as far as they can take it. They won't shut up until we're nuked, and then they'll probably say it was our fault in the first place.

33 posted on 05/30/2004 10:04:25 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: maxwellp
Rush Limbaugh has the top rated syndicated show. He's culturally relevant to be broadcast there. I looked over the petition and the leftists were demanding "equal time"/"replacement" programs like Air America and Amy Goodman.

ANTIAMERICAN diatribes (and death threats against the president, like the "take him out and shoot him" comment from Randi Rhodes) do not belong on American Armed Forces Radio. It is bad enough that we pay for our own antiAmerican propaganda on Radio Free Europe.

These kooks would have demanded we broadcast Lord Haw Haw and Axis Sally in WWII.

34 posted on 05/30/2004 10:06:46 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: zygoat

Brock will be worthless after Nov. 2. He won't even be able to get his own obit published after the election. Another useful idiot.


35 posted on 05/30/2004 10:24:10 PM PDT by Liberty Valance ("The next time America or Americans suffer at the hands of terrorists, thank CBS." - Pat Boone)
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To: neverdem
Just looked at their website.

I would have to say that after skimming their contact I would have to conclude that to them only liberal media matters as their watchdog efforts for accuracy in the media is spelled out as to only to be applied to conservative outlets and commentators inferring that if you are a liberal outlet or commentator you have a free reign for misbehavior.

Citizens For A Freer America
&
The Upper Valley Free Press

Daryl L. Hunter - Editor

36 posted on 05/30/2004 10:40:33 PM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter (The Eco-tally-ban must be stopped)
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To: neverdem
Arguing that Limbaugh has condoned the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib, Brock wrote, "It is abhorrent that the American taxpayer is paying to broadcast what is in effect pro-torture propaganda to American troops."

Talk about misquoting to the extreme of distorting any truth...Brock tops himself here. I am curious if David sincerely believes Limbaugh in any way condoned the abuse...or if he is simply the left-wing hit-man he claims he was the opposite of before. Speaking of which, exactly who does Brock think he is kidding here. To come full circle, I remember when I first started listening to Rush in the mid 90's, when David alledged had this "conversion" from conservatism, and I read Brock's cyndicated collumns in my local newspaper and becoming enraged. David Brock, even back then crystalized an example for me of what I was at the time just learning from Rush-dishonest liberal media bias. I distinctly remember looking at the picture of his oblong, ugly bald head and feeling so irritated at him thinking he had pulled a fast one on his readers spouting his cloaked leftwing BS, and now he's claiming back then he was some conservative???? This is Orwellian.

Brock asked Rumsfeld to consider removing the Limbaugh program to "protect" American troops from Limbaugh's "reckless and dangerous messages."

I'm sure all of time Brock spent crafting his no doubt pretentious prose in the letter took up all of about 15 seconds of Rumsfield's assistant secretary's son in charge of sorting the mail before being crumpled and thrown in the trash.

Anyone else find it hilarious that David Brock has to go groveling to none other than Donald Rumsfield in order to get his censorship whine heard? My goodness that really makes it hit home how much the left needs to get the Bush Administration out of office-guys like Rumsfield are in charge. I would wish you luck David in your unholy quest, but we both know I do not mean it.

37 posted on 05/30/2004 10:47:03 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (I am no longer afraid to publicly say I love Jesus, thanks Mel)
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To: neverdem

Yeah, a balanced approach. Brock wishes to promote the left and destroy the right. Fair and balanced, comrade Brock.


38 posted on 05/30/2004 11:31:30 PM PDT by ChiMark
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if they edit out all the time rush spends laughing at his own jokes and talking about the times he predicted something (while ignoring the times he was wrong) they could get the entire broadcast down to 59 minutes


39 posted on 05/30/2004 11:38:32 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: neverdem; All
-That "Rush" to Judgment- Limbaugh Links--
40 posted on 05/31/2004 12:57:28 AM PDT by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)... the 00's? The Decade of Lunatics...)
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To: get'emall
Does Soros pay Brock more than ErrAmerika pays alFranken?

Maybe. Actually, Hitlery got a hold of Brock's FBI File, and he has never been the same, since! ;-)

41 posted on 05/31/2004 3:10:15 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: SierraWasp
You called it right, even if it was deleted!!!

You can no longer call people what Brits call a handrolled cigarette????

42 posted on 05/31/2004 4:57:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Ethyl
That's not the same thing, Franken explained: "Rush's message is that liberals hate America, while NPR is straight-ahead reporting and journalism.

If I understand Mr Franken's statement, he is saying that NPR has started echoing Rush's message? Wonderful!


gitmo
43 posted on 05/31/2004 5:07:05 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: neverdem
The reality is that the talk-radio market in the United States is not balanced; conservatives have been far more successful than liberals in making a product that people want to hear.

The problem here is the commentator is misapplying the word 'balanced'. His vision of balance is based on opinions. If you applied this definition to building a house, doors would open or shut on their own, windows would jam, and a marble placed on the floor would roll to one end of the house. That's why we use a plumbline as the standard in constructing a house, not opinion.

Balance should be centered on truth, not on opinion. If you use truth as the standard for measuring balance, NPR is far from balanced. Rush is pretty darned close to plumb.

gitmo
44 posted on 05/31/2004 5:17:53 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: neverdem

David Brock, Liar
A lifelong habit proves hard to break.
By Timothy Noah
Posted Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 9:11 AM PT


45 posted on 05/31/2004 5:33:10 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Lazamataz

But if I really say it... The radio won't play it... So I guess I'll hafta lay it... BETWEEN THE LINES!!!


46 posted on 05/31/2004 7:32:22 AM PDT by SierraWasp (STOP PREMPTIVE JOURNALISM!!! A malevolent media can kill America's will, AGAIN!!!)
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To: backhoe

Thanks for the links. Your links remind me of how strange these days are for the ACLU, backing Rush in this case and the NRA in CFR, while their heroes Alan Dershowitz(sp?) and Laurence Tribe say the Second Amendment recognizes an individual right.


47 posted on 05/31/2004 12:27:09 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Texas Eagle
If I remember right, Rush is only on for one hour. Perhaps a member of our fighting forces can confirm this. If so, I will write a letter to Rumsfeld encouraging him to broadcast all three hours of Rush's show.

You remember correctly (but I'm not a member of our fighting forces) and I said the same thing on another thread. Stick it in their eye by putting him on 3 hours a day.

48 posted on 05/31/2004 12:54:30 PM PDT by b4its2late (Every morning is the dawn of a new error...)
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To: neverdem
Your links remind me of how strange these days are for the ACLU, backing Rush in this case and the NRA in CFR, while their heroes Alan Dershowitz(sp?) and Laurence Tribe say the Second Amendment recognizes an individual right.

Bizzare, isn't it?

49 posted on 05/31/2004 1:18:16 PM PDT by backhoe (--30--)
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To: ladyinred
For the record, Rush didn't condone the so called abuses, he just thinks they were over reacted to for political purposes, as do I!!!!

Exactly. I agreed pretty much with everything Rush said.

Not only have the abuses been blown totally out of perspective for political purposes, but now they are doing the same thing with Rush's comments.
The deceitfulness of the left knows no bounds.

50 posted on 05/31/2004 5:51:00 PM PDT by Jorge
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