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Losing the vegan vote
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | 6/1/2004 | Dave Scopinich

Posted on 06/01/2004 5:44:52 AM PDT by dirtboy

I AM A conservative Republican on most issues.

But I can't donate to the GOP or vote for President Bush based on his - and the party's - stance on animal rights.

I am a vegan and a proud member of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. I'm disappointed that the Bush administration has done nothing to improve animals' lives.

I saw a video of President Bush at a campaign stop during the 2000 election. In it, a reporter asks "What do you think about PETA?"

Then-Gov. Bush responded sarcastically, "I'm glad I ate my bacon for breakfast today."

President Bush couldn't show PETA even the least bit of respect. That disappointed me as both an animal-rights activist and a Republican. I want the Republican National Committee to know that I am a Republican - and an animal- rights supporter.

I ask the RNC and GOP politicians to support animal rights via tougher laws against animal abusers and stricter regulations on factory farms, zoos, circuses, labs and the many other places where animals are exploited.

The Republican Party is supposed to be the party of Lincoln, who freed African- Americans from slavery. The Republican Party is supposed to the party that protects life - especially innocent life. Let's live up to those ideals when it comes to animals.

I will not be voting for John Kerry because I disagree with too many of his views, and I could never vote for a pro-choice candidate. But I will not vote for President Bush either because I can't vote for someone so anti-animal.

This is why President Bush has lost my vote in this key swing state. Unfortunately, the only vote I can cast in good conscience is to write in Chris P. Carrot, PETA's candidate, as a protest vote.

I hope someday people will see society's treatment of animals in the same light they do slavery and the Holocaust - as a mistake made by humanity at its worst.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: animalrights; animalwhackos; asshat; dope; hippieplant; idiot; moby; moron; organicdeoderant; peta; vegan; wingnut; yeahright
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Ya gotta love letters to the editor or calls to C-Span that start with "I AM A conservative Republican" and then proceed straight into leftist nonsense.
1 posted on 06/01/2004 5:44:53 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

I like when callers say the same thing, and then pronounce the president's name "Boosh".


2 posted on 06/01/2004 5:47:30 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: dirtboy
Hey Dave Scopinich, F you.  I'd eat you if I had the chance.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

3 posted on 06/01/2004 5:47:39 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (FReep 'em all, let God sort 'em out.)
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To: dirtboy

They can not tell the truth. Liberism----the end justify the means.


4 posted on 06/01/2004 5:48:02 AM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: dirtboy

if you're not gonna eat it, can I have your steak?


5 posted on 06/01/2004 5:48:10 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: dirtboy
The Republican Party is supposed to be the party of Lincoln, who freed African- Americans from slavery. The Republican Party is supposed to the party that protects life - especially innocent life. Let's live up to those ideals when it comes to animals.

Get that? Black people and babies are no different from animals.

6 posted on 06/01/2004 5:49:21 AM PDT by Brett66
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To: struwwelpeter

crispy carrot? lol


7 posted on 06/01/2004 5:49:39 AM PDT by Kewlhand`tek
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To: dirtboy

Because Im sure the peta candidate is pro life, and conservative....


8 posted on 06/01/2004 5:50:09 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: dirtboy

Peta - Multi-million dollar org..How much of that money goes to animal shelters, animal hospitals, zoos, etc..? Give up? Take a guess, it`s a number between zero and zero.


9 posted on 06/01/2004 5:50:51 AM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: dirtboy

My neighbor, and cousin, is an anal PETA person. My husband delights in cooking steaks on the grill and referring to "People Eating Tasty Animals" early and often. It makes her crazy!

It's funny though, all of her furniture is leather. Go figure.


10 posted on 06/01/2004 5:54:16 AM PDT by hobson
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To: dirtboy

anytime anyone starts a conversation with "i am a life long republican.." or "i voted for bush the first time..." get ready for some left wing lies.

Also PeTA is a hate group and should be investigated by the FBI.


11 posted on 06/01/2004 5:57:03 AM PDT by captaindude2 (Soon to be banned again!)
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To: dirtboy

"Ya gotta love letters to the editor or calls to C-Span that start with "I AM A conservative Republican" and then proceed straight into leftist nonsense."


I was just thinking the same thing.


12 posted on 06/01/2004 6:02:50 AM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: dirtboy
I will not be voting for John Kerry because I disagree with too many of his views..

What views?

13 posted on 06/01/2004 6:07:50 AM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: dirtboy
Then-Gov. Bush responded sarcastically, "I'm glad I ate my bacon for breakfast today."

Was Bush really being sarcastic? Or was he just illustrating his opinion about eating meat?

Bush is allowed to like meat...right?

Jesus ate lamb.

14 posted on 06/01/2004 6:13:59 AM PDT by syriacus (Have you hugged a rudderless, down-at-the-mouth liberal today?)
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To: dirtboy
I AM A conservative Republican on most issues. But I can't donate to the GOP or vote for President Bush based on his - and the party's - stance on:

1. militant lesbians, like myself, who wish to marry and eventually adopt children.
2. people like me who see Michael Moore as a cinema-graphic genius.
3. public Wiccan rituals involving nudity.
4. free expression through flag burning.
5. incest.
6. an openly Marxist curriculum in our public schools.
7. refusing to open dialog with and otherwise embrace the saucer people.

For the good of the Party, we simply must have more inclusiveness!
15 posted on 06/01/2004 6:19:33 AM PDT by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: dirtboy
The Republican Party is supposed to be the party of Lincoln, who freed African- Americans from slavery.

PETA equates black people with animals. Brilliant.

16 posted on 06/01/2004 6:22:27 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: dirtboy
I saw a video of President Bush at a campaign stop during the 2000 election. In it, a reporter asks "What do you think about PETA?"
17 posted on 06/01/2004 6:26:07 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: Oztrich Boy

Im a conservative and a vegetarian. However, I cant and wont support PETA anymore. Especially since I found out that the founder of PETA supports sex with animals, as long as its not "rugged sex". I support vegetarianism and animal rights, however some of these so-called animal rights organizations are a little hypocritical sometimes.


18 posted on 06/01/2004 6:30:46 AM PDT by Jivana108 (Dont mistake kindness for weakness...)
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To: dirtboy
Wow, those 3 PETA votes are really gonna really hurt Bush in the election! < /sarcasm >
19 posted on 06/01/2004 6:35:32 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: writer33
My response to Dave:

20 posted on 06/01/2004 6:37:40 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit softly. Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: hobson
"anal PETA person"

Isn't that redundant?

21 posted on 06/01/2004 6:38:08 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: dirtboy
Okay, so he's not going to vote for Bush because the president has done nothing to better the lives of our furry friends.

So he's going to cast a ballot for the man who voted against the ban on partial birth abortion. Yup, makes perfect sense to me.

22 posted on 06/01/2004 6:41:07 AM PDT by grellis (What's a rooster and mashed potatos have to do with being a pirate?)
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To: syriacus
"Jesus ate lamb."

He probably doesn't like Jesus either.

23 posted on 06/01/2004 6:44:08 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: dirtboy
"I'm disappointed that the Bush administration has done nothing to improve animals' lives."

Oh what a crock. He feeds his dogs and carries Barney around all the time.

24 posted on 06/01/2004 6:54:45 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: dirtboy
President Bush couldn't show PETA even the least bit of respect. That disappointed me as both an animal-rights activist and a Republican. I want the Republican National Committee to know that I am a Republican - and an animal- rights supporter.

You can be vegetarian and conservative, but PETA and conservatism cannot coexist in the same universe.

25 posted on 06/01/2004 7:21:55 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: dirtboy
To quote from another thread:

"Animal rights activists harass people wearing fur instead of leather because it's a lot safer to throw paint on little old ladies than on bikers."
26 posted on 06/01/2004 7:22:32 AM PDT by frankenMonkey
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To: dirtboy

Vegetarian: old Indian word meaning “bad hunter”.


27 posted on 06/01/2004 7:28:09 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: dirtboy
"I hope someday people will see society's treatment of animals in the same light they do slavery and the Holocaust - as a mistake made by humanity at its worst."

Oh jeez...do we have to pay the animals "reparations" too?
28 posted on 06/01/2004 7:31:59 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: Owl_Eagle
Hey Dave Scopinich, F you.  I'd eat you if I had the chance.

So would Dr. Lechter...


29 posted on 06/01/2004 7:57:52 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking" - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: sweetliberty

dunno...if he's catholic, does he take communion and "eat of his body?"

something for "vegetarians" to ponder...


30 posted on 06/01/2004 8:06:06 AM PDT by Keith (The American Press is in violation of Article III, Section 3. Time to prosecute.)
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To: dirtboy
President Bush couldn't show PETA even the least bit of respect.
 
This just might be the funniest thing I've ever read. 

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

31 posted on 06/01/2004 8:51:48 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (FReep 'em all, let God sort 'em out.)
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To: sweetliberty

LOL. Yes, it is.


32 posted on 06/01/2004 9:16:24 AM PDT by hobson
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To: dirtboy
I AM A conservative Republican

support animal rights via tougher laws against animal abusers and stricter regulations

Yeah good one there Dave... you almost had me fooled.

33 posted on 06/01/2004 10:27:21 AM PDT by bird4four4
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To: dirtboy

This is from Dave, the writer of the letter to the editor who has been thoroughly bashed in so many posts on this site. I want to thank you. Your posts ensured me of two things: first, that some people actually read my letter and second, that I am smarter than most people who post on freerepublic.com.

A couple of points:

1. People say that because I ask the GOP to live up to the ideals of being pro-life and anti-slavery that I am somehow equating African-Americans and babies between the age of conception and 9 months to animals. I'm not. People, to me, are more important than animals. However, I believe that fact doesn't give us the right to kill animals for sport or food or clothing. And please don't use the "survival of the fittest" or "circle of life" arguments because those went out the window when Man learned to farm.

2. I don't hate Jesus. In fact, I'm a fan of Jesus. I especially like his quote "What you do to the least of my brethren, you do unto me." For all the Christians out there, I have a question: Do you really think Jesus would approve of the way we treat animals? If you're honest, I think the answer is obvious.

3. I have a pretty good working knowledge of the Bible, and I don't recall a passage in which it specifically states that Jesus ate meat. Please point me to the correct book, chapter, and verse. Also please note that I am not a fundamentalist Christian, so I believe that the "Jesus as Fisherman" stories are the writers' way of saying Jesus was gathering and expanding his flock. If you're a fundamentalist Christian, please debate with me only after you explain how Jonah could live inside of a whale for a year.

4. I can point you to Genesis, which states that God told Adam and Eve that he had given them all the necessary fruits, plants, and grains they will need to survive. God also granted Adam and Eve "dominion" over His animal creations. Linguistics scholars will agree that during the time in which the Bible was written, "Dominion" meant "to care for." I don't remember God saying anything about giving humans the right to slaughter 9 billion animals a year.

5. I'm not voting for John Kerry. I think I clearly stated that in my letter, but a couple of posters seemed confused about that point. I understand and forgive you. I won't hunt and eat you because you're less intelligent than me.

6. I don't know what Chris P. Carrot's views are on abortion and tax reform. As I mentioned, my vote for Chris P. Carrot is a "protest" vote. I'm not so much voting for the character as I am making a statement about an issue I care about. Once again, I understand that it's tough for some of you to read AND COMPREHEND a short letter. And once again, just because you are less intelligent than I am and you don't have the ability to reason, I won't hunt you and eat you or use your skin for a nice new jacket.

7. I bet that most people who post on this site are pro-life just like me, yes? Well, isn't being pro-life all about protecting the innocent? Do you not see the parallel when it comes to protecting innocent living beings? I think all right-thinking ("right" meaning "correct" in this instance) people will agree that we don't HAVE to kill animals to survive. So why kill?

That's about it for now. Please feel free to continue ripping me. It's a lot of fun for me and I don't take it to heart. Most times, I'm the conservative bashing the liberal, so this is a nice switch for me.

Sincerely,
Dave




34 posted on 06/07/2004 1:13:37 PM PDT by conservativepetamember
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To: dirtboy

How about a new slogan:
Veganism rots your teeth.


35 posted on 06/07/2004 1:15:17 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Rest in Peace, President Reagan.)
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To: dirtboy
President Bush couldn't show PETA even the least bit of respect

This article should be listed under humor. To think that a conservative Republican would be upset that the President didn't show "respect" to PETA, when PETA doesn't show respect to anyone, is ridiculous.

This is too transparent, and very funny.

36 posted on 06/07/2004 1:17:32 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (Pardon me. Your epidermis is showing mister.)
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To: dirtboy

I wonder if this idiot knows ANYTHING ABOUT PETA and their real agenda??? For once I would like these simple minded fools to do a little research on the REAL PETA...right, like that will ever happen.


37 posted on 06/07/2004 1:19:29 PM PDT by FeliciaCat (Life is to short for ugly shoes.)
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To: conservativepetamember

How did you miss the Biblical commands to sacrifice animals to the Lord??

And Jonah was in the belly of the whale for three DAYS. Not that God couldn't sustain him for a year if that was His desire.


39 posted on 06/07/2004 1:26:30 PM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: dirtboy

Come on guys this one was too easy. You gotta throw this one back.


41 posted on 06/07/2004 1:37:00 PM PDT by bad company (free Khashayar)
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To: FrankR

What do we give the mules with their 40 acres?


42 posted on 06/07/2004 1:38:04 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (This tagline under construction)
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To: FeliciaCat
Here's a sample of PETA's real agenda:

Arafat gets asinine plea from PETA on intifada (Exploding jackass alert)
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | Feb. 5 2003 | Kerry Dougherty

43 posted on 06/07/2004 1:44:44 PM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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To: dirtboy
I want the Republican National Committee to know that I am a Republican - and an animal- rights supporter.

Please don't go to the Republican Convention. Dubya is hosting a good ole Texas barbeque. You won't like it. Wackos like you are supposed to attend the Democratic Convention. Be there and be among friends.

44 posted on 06/07/2004 1:46:07 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: conservativepetamember
Your posts ensured me of two things: first, that some people actually read my letter and second, that I am smarter than most people who post on freerepublic.com.

Only in the dimly-lit recesses of your own mind, Dave. And I love your Biblical analysis (and I'm not a practicing Christian, so it's more for entertainment value that I rip it up):

"What you do to the least of my brethren, you do unto me." For all the Christians out there, I have a question: Do you really think Jesus would approve of the way we treat animals?

I don't think "brethen" equals hamsters, Dave. Or perhaps you are just engaging in some Clintonian parsing of what is a pretty clear term to the rest of us. Your animal-rights agenda diminishes humanity at the expense of animals when you try to pull this crap.

45 posted on 06/07/2004 1:51:11 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: dirtboy

Sure he's a Republican. I'm soooooo sorry we lost his vote.
This year, I hope Bush doesn't pardon the Thanksgiving turkey...


46 posted on 06/07/2004 1:52:57 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: dirtboy

Sure he's a Republican. I'm soooooo sorry we lost his vote.
This year, I hope Bush doesn't pardon the Thanksgiving turkey...


47 posted on 06/07/2004 1:53:03 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: conservativepetamember
7. I bet that most people who post on this site are pro-life just like me, yes? Well, isn't being pro-life all about protecting the innocent?

Innocent humans, yes. And when the lion lies down with the lamb and starts eating tofu burgers instead of gazelles, then maybe I'll listen to you. Until then, we have a food chain, and my ancestors worked very, very, very hard to get to the top of it, thank you.

I think all right-thinking ("right" meaning "correct" in this instance) people will agree that we don't HAVE to kill animals to survive. So why kill?

Gee, maybe because meat is good for you (and tasty as well)? Maybe because grazing for meat is a productive use of otherwise non-arable land? Maybe because animal testing saves human lives?

You won't find too many freepers who oppose more human husbandry and slaugher methods. But we draw the line at equating human life with animal life. Peta tends to do the opposite - the whackos tend to treat humans like a virus and animals as more important. Like another poster said, you really, really need to examine the views of the other members of this group. I can understand how you got there - but you made a wrong turn.

48 posted on 06/07/2004 1:55:49 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: dirtboy

All Peta does is carry out outlandish publicity stunts which are inexplicably covered by ALL the media, FOX included. I dare say I've never heard of Peta actually helping an animal. Local SPCA does more than these egotists every dreamed.


49 posted on 06/07/2004 1:57:14 PM PDT by manic4organic (Go. Fight. Win.)
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To: manic4organic
I dare say I've never heard of Peta actually helping an animal.

My favorite animal rights moments come when the wingnuts liberate thousands of minks from mink farms, which causes untold carnage to the local fauna due to the fact that minks are very nasty little predators.

50 posted on 06/07/2004 1:58:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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