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Strong Factory Growth Boosts Hiring (to highest level in 31 years)
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | 06/01/2004 | Eric Burroughs

Posted on 06/01/2004 8:51:58 AM PDT by zencat

U.S. manufacturing chugged to a full year of expansion in May, pushing factory hiring to its highest in 31 years, a survey released on Tuesday showed.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
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To: RaceBannon
Then, add in what you put in the basket on Sunday, coffee on th way to work or to stay up during classes (like so many accuse me of not doing

Ya, gotta have that high dollar coffee shop coffee. I guess that making coffee yourself at home for pennies and putting it in a thermos is beneth you.

201 posted on 06/03/2004 8:17:43 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: RaceBannon
when that Berlin Wall came down, and all the liberals talked about slashig the defense budget, I was on ALL the talk shows screaming about how it was going to bankrupt the state! I was right.

CT is bankrupt? Thats news to me.

And it is not the governments job to spend money to provide you with a job.

202 posted on 06/03/2004 8:20:05 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Sybeck1
I began delivery pizzas, and was averaging $700-$800 a week! That is $5.10 salary, mileage, and tips, but I did have to hustle

A friend of mine delivers pizza as his sole source of income. He is 40 years old. He makes $8.00+ an hour in wage pay plus tips. He is making a lot of money doing it to. He loves it. Brings home a stack of cash each night in tips, and being cash, is able to hide some of it from his wife so he has play money.

203 posted on 06/03/2004 8:22:19 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Phantom Lord; Willie Green

Nice of you to change the subject.

The point is, there was NO major manufacturer because we all built up defense industries and companies that did civilian work were outsourced to Korea or Japan, like Naugatuck Rubber that made the rubber for Convese sneakers back in the early 70's, now overseas..

Now that all that is gone, the small shops are closing rapidly due to OUTSOURCING.

Dont tell me otherwise, I walk the streest looking for work all the time, and the 2 shops I went to this morning both are at a crawl, they only do prototype work because production work is not affordable here, it is all done in China! Both are down to one or two workers JOURNEYMEN machinists that are all in their 50's.

You must not work in manufacturing, that's all I can say.

I have gotten more than 4 Freepmails that prove my point, all from CT freepers who either are unemployed or own businesses that are failing because all the work is going overseas.

You guys keep defending the low payig jobs that are nothing more than SERVICE jobs, they are not jobs where something isproduced, but only a SERVICE is performed!

That's why you are all called FREE TRAITORS.


204 posted on 06/03/2004 9:02:05 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: Phantom Lord
Ya, gotta have that high dollar coffee shop coffee. I guess that making coffee yourself at home for pennies and putting it in a thermos is beneth you

Wow, you are a moron, you know that?

Must be nice to have the $50 for the coffee maker to begin with, eh?

Then, the $20 for the coffee can from the supermarket

Then the money for the sugar

Then, the $20 for the thermos to hold it in...

What does all that add up to for the first purchase?...HHmmm...

People that are unemployed dont have to buy coffe to get to work, do they? SO I GUESS I AINT BUYING ANY NOW, AM I?

You are so out of touch, calling COFFEE an extra when I already told you I dumped all the other stuff to save money...

205 posted on 06/03/2004 9:06:47 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: RaceBannon
You must not work in manufacturing, that's all I can say.

Aparently neither do you.

You guys keep defending the low payig jobs that are nothing more than SERVICE jobs, they are not jobs where something isproduced, but only a SERVICE is performed!

I perform 2 service jobs, neither of which is low paying. Both pay very well. Or do you contend that performing a service is not a real job?

That's why you are all called FREE TRAITORS.

So, because I perform several services that customers WANT and pay me to perform I am a traitor?

206 posted on 06/03/2004 9:12:07 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Phantom Lord

YTour friend has a job on the side, or he is lying, or he delivers to rich people.

I delivered Pizza, and no WAY did I make over $70 a night tips included! and that is the high average, I asked!


207 posted on 06/03/2004 9:12:11 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: Phantom Lord

YES, you are a Free TRaitor!

You dont produce anytthing!

People like me went to college, paid our dues, and people like you end up making more money and have the jobs??

Something is wrong with that picture.


208 posted on 06/03/2004 9:14:03 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: RaceBannon
Must be nice to have the $50 for the coffee maker to begin with, eh?

My coffee maker was $19. I also have a free one from Gevala.

Then, the $20 for the coffee can from the supermarket

I buy a 52 oz tub of Folgers for $6 (often on sale for $3.99!)

Then the money for the sugar

Sugar is beyond cheap. I think the last pound I bought cost $0.69. Though I drink my coffee black and no sugar.

Then, the $20 for the thermos to hold it in...

The thermos I have I paid $4 for and it works just fine.

You forgot to mention filters. What do you pay for those? I buy 100 #4 cone filters for $3.29.

209 posted on 06/03/2004 9:18:26 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: RaceBannon
YES, you are a Free TRaitor!

Wrong. But hey, after several days of talking with you I have come to realize that it is your bad attitude that is preventing you from gaining employment. It is clear in your writing, and I am sure it is clear to anyone interviewing you.

You dont produce anytthing!

While maybe technically true that I "produce" anything as in a tangible product you can touch, feel, smell, taste, and hold, that doesn't mean what I do isn't a job and isn't in demand.

Production of a physical "product" is not what makes something a job or a needed and worthwhile business.

People like me went to college, paid our dues, and people like you end up making more money and have the jobs??

I did go to college (even graduated!), and I have more than paid my dues. The money I make I earn through busting my hump, providing services that people want, and satisfying them so they return and send others to me.

Something is wrong with that picture.

Ya, your attitude and belief that you are owed something, particualary whats in the wallets of your fellow Americans.

210 posted on 06/03/2004 9:33:13 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: RaceBannon
YTour friend has a job on the side

Nope.

he is lying

Nope

or he delivers to rich people

Some of them are, and a lot of them are college kids, young people, and mexicans.

211 posted on 06/03/2004 9:37:17 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: RaceBannon
That's why you are all called FREE TRAITORS.

And that's why you are called UNEMPLOYED.

212 posted on 06/03/2004 9:45:16 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: RaceBannon
Serious question. Must one be employed in a capacity where they produce a physical product for it to be considered a "real job" and for them to not be a "free traitor"?

If yes, why?

If not, why have you repeatedly stated such?

213 posted on 06/03/2004 9:59:32 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Phantom Lord

If you think I talk like this on a job interview, you are nuts! :)

Plus, I havent HAD more than 6 interviews in the last 3 years anyways!

So, there goes YOUR theory! :)


214 posted on 06/03/2004 10:11:18 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: RaceBannon

2 interviews a year! It is long past time that you embarked upon a career change.


215 posted on 06/03/2004 10:38:42 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Phantom Lord

I have an ASME, 6 years experience as a designer/draftsman

I have 15 years as a technician/machine mechanic/test rig operator

I am enrolled for an ASEE for the career change and also to complete my BS when I combine the two degrees

I have done so many differetn things, i can jump in and fake it until I make it, but I am not given the chance.

I literally have had oless than 6 interviews in the last 3 years, and every resume expert I speak to saysit aint my resume.

I also try to explain the 14 jobs honestly: That I choose to work instead of collect if it pays more than unemployment so I can get off it. But the resume is getting way too long!

And I Dont get Starbucks coffee...unless I am working and need to do homework! I end up tutoring all the kids in class! Circuits one was the toughest class, that one I had to ask questions myself from other kids.


216 posted on 06/03/2004 10:58:34 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: Phantom Lord

Any work is a real job, but there is no way Service work is a producing factor in an economy.

You are dependant on others not doing for themselves for the most part.

Producing jobs create the means to do for yourself or improve your position, even to create stuff for a service industry to use in their service.

The only serice jobs that 'might' be considered producing are those that are too complex for the average person to perform themselves...like carpentry in my case! (I cant make a doghouse!)


217 posted on 06/03/2004 11:02:43 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: RaceBannon
You are dependant on others not doing for themselves for the most part.

Not doing for themselves? There are only so many hours in the day, not everyone can do everything themselves. And some needed services can not be done by oneself.

Producing jobs create the means to do for yourself or improve your position, even to create stuff for a service industry to use in their service.

In other words, producing the needed stuff for them to be traitors!

The only serice jobs that 'might' be considered producing are those that are too complex for the average person to perform themselves...like carpentry in my case!

Carpentry, while providing a service, is a production job. At the end of the day there is a tangible product that has been produced.

218 posted on 06/03/2004 11:13:29 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: RaceBannon

It sounds like it's time to leave Connecticut...


219 posted on 06/03/2004 7:29:52 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: RaceBannon

"it is like you never had to look for a job!"

I had to look for a job in 1978 when the economy sucked canal water ten times worse than the average -to-normal economy we have now.

I moved halfway across the country because I wanted to work in my field. If I had had to, I would have asked my family for help. An advance, temporary rooming, whatever.

Prior to that, I had already lived on beans for a couple years extra because as I reached the culmination of my graduate studies, I realized to my chagrin that the job I was training for had been monopolized by minorities, and as a white male I was dead meat.

Somehow I was able to network across the country to find a job without having to travel, before the era of the internet, the fax, the cellphone, when even the PC itself was a rudimentary novelty to us non-geeks. (I used to know BASIC and how to count in hex!)

One thing which got me through a rough patch was service in the Army Reserve. They paid real money, although not a helluva lot, but it was better than welfare cheese.

You said you couldn't find a job in CAD so you went and learned five more languages for CAD.

Here's a clue: I have a friend who wrenches for a Ford dealer and makes over 50,000 dollars a year. And he's no 60-year-old foreman either. His foreman makes close to 80K.

Best wishes on your new career, whatever it turns out to be.


220 posted on 06/03/2004 7:39:36 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

That is still another 2 years of school in todays world, I am already on a new degree in Electrical Engineering

2 straight years if you dont work at all, that is...


221 posted on 06/03/2004 7:47:21 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

And I didnt go learn 5 more languages when I couldnt get hired in the field, I kept up with the joneses, only I never got hired again since 01


222 posted on 06/03/2004 7:48:50 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: bvw
I just could not hold back. Let's see here is the job creation in the last 3 months.

248,000 in May,
346,000 in April
353,000 in March

That is almost 1 million jobs in the last three months alone! Now please explain to me your view point why this is not good? Hopefully, you will make a good point, and not some condescending remark.
223 posted on 06/04/2004 7:58:03 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

Source those numbers. Primary research, if you can -- and you can not. They are puffs of imagination, revised each month. An increase in a subset is headlined for public consumption -- feeding the media lions -- by revising a prior month's number.


224 posted on 06/04/2004 2:21:48 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
LOL about source it! It was not too hard to find. It was a ruff 2 minute search. LOL! Where do you live? This news was all over Friday. How could you miss it? Nevertheless, here is your source The Bureau of Labor Statistics; Just cut and paste.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

Puffs of imagination? Facts are imagination? I know truth is hard to handle, but it must be said. So much for your protectionist theory.

I know a lot of people, and I do not know anyone that is unemployed. I did know 2 people that were unemployed, but that was 2 years ago. Both of them have been employed. When I drive to work every morning I see thousands of cars all heading to different offices. If anything is a puff of imagination, then its you believing that unemployment is high.
225 posted on 06/07/2004 12:23:48 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

BLS? That's NOT a source. Your anecdotal testimony is a better source. And on that ... I see what I have said, you see what you have said. But for an enlightenment go and compare the BLS figures for the last ten years to state income tax revenues for the same period.


226 posted on 06/08/2004 11:26:51 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Sprite518

Oh ... not BLS later "revised" figures. The initial contemperaneous figures that the news shows and touts play up when released.


227 posted on 06/08/2004 11:29:30 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Oh I am sorry I just quoted the Labor Department. What was I thinking? LOL! Prove to me that it is not honest. Furthermore, where do you get your reliable facts?

Oh and " anecdotal testimony "? That is like the Pot calling the Kettle black. I would love to have a good spirited debate. Nevertheless, you have been immature, sophomoric, and condescending to say the least. I pull reliable sources (that just about everyone in the world use) to back up what I am saying, and you just ramble on how its a not a good source (No factual proof by the way).

Do you honestly believe there is some mass conspiracy involving many people to deceive the entire United States and investors World wide? Where do you get this garbage? Perhaps you have seen too many Oliver Stone movies? You need to read the Wall Street Journal, and get out of fantasy land. LOL!

There are more people working today then ever in the history of this country. Home ownership is at an all time high. Interest rates have been low, and inflation for the most part has been in check. We have had the dot com implosion, Corporate scandal, and 911. I am amazed our economy is doing as well as it is considering all the turmoil.

"for an enlightenment go and compare the BLS figures for the last ten years to state income tax revenues for the same period."

Can you source that?


228 posted on 06/08/2004 1:56:48 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

Oh yeah its a huge conspiracy. LOL!


229 posted on 06/08/2004 1:57:53 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518
Okey dokey.

Lead a dry horse to water, still he can't be made to drink.

Do I NOT believe in grand conspiracies. No. But Charles Ponzi, the economic scientist, he proved something. And HE is due a Nobel Prize as much as if not more than a Princeton mathematician or two for his work in the field.

230 posted on 06/08/2004 2:28:05 PM PDT by bvw
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To: RaceBannon
I am a degreed engineer, and the only job I was offered so far since the last layoff 3 weeks ago is the deli for 25 hours a week at $8.25

Either you're a story teller, or a simple dope.

My son graduated from Penn State last year with an engineering degree and immediately snagged a $60k (plus great benefits) a year job with a Fortune 500 company. (They gave him a $5,000 signing bonus, even)

Now, I love my son dearly, but he certainly is no engineering genius more so than other graduates. In fact, he even turned down several other jobs cause he didn't want to travel too far.

So whatever it is you THINK you are doing in seeking a job, you are doing it wrong, my friend.

PS: Each and every one of my son's friends also got a good paying job with top companies after graduating.

One was hired by Coca Cola marketing, another was immediately hired as a high school teacher in Pennsylvania, and a third got an accounting job at $50K per year, and is already moving up to a better paying position with another company.

231 posted on 06/08/2004 2:42:31 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: MojoWire

No, your son is a child with a 4 year degree and he is NOT in Connecticut!

I have a 2 year degree, 6 years experience, working on a 2nd degree, re-trained many times, updated my skills many times, 44 years old, and not one offer in 3 years up here or any state where I have forwarded my resume.

So, I guess you are the dope, then. Because I have been trying. Companies hire children over adults all the time, children can be forced into the company mold much easier than us who have been in manufacturing for our adult life.


232 posted on 06/08/2004 2:53:56 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: RaceBannon

"I am a degreed engineer, and the only job I was offered so far....."

Using some "engineering" reasoning, one might conlude you are searching for a degreed engineering job, in a low-degreed engineering job locale.

I have ancestors down through the centuries, that moved to overcome similar mismatches, between thier aspirations, and their local opportunities.

Go west. Go south. Home ownership in America is at an all time high.

Somebody designed, financed, built, sold, insured, landscaped, repairs, polices those homes.

Mechanical engineering is broad enough, to allow you some industry changing.


233 posted on 06/08/2004 2:57:53 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: RaceBannon
Dont tell me, either, in Ct the want ads are the smallest they have been in years

The same in Houston, TX the Help Want ads are ever so thin. When I see them beefed up then I will believe.

234 posted on 06/08/2004 3:10:48 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: RaceBannon

Hey, good point. Write your political commie and have them make the minimum wage $100, that'll fix it right up.

Bet they're all burger flipping jobs anyway.


235 posted on 06/08/2004 3:18:55 PM PDT by Proud_texan
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To: Proud_texan

Yeah, $100.

But then, the price of everythig else would go up!


236 posted on 06/08/2004 3:57:35 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: bvw
Ponzi just found a hole in the system. He capitalized on it. No way does he deserve a Nobel Prize. Ponzi got what he deserved at the time. I am still waiting for the link?
237 posted on 06/10/2004 9:51:48 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

?


238 posted on 06/10/2004 11:15:48 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Sprite518

LAW, John.


239 posted on 06/10/2004 11:17:49 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Sprite518

"Money and Trade Considered"


240 posted on 06/10/2004 11:20:12 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Sprite518
WAs John Law's scheme a conspiracy? Was Ponzi's? Is Social Security? Is the Federal Reserve, when it is the sole source of US money? What does one call a conspriracy?

Coke is Love.

241 posted on 06/10/2004 11:22:10 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Sprite518
Why do you trust the BLS? I'll tell you. The same reason three out of ever four Boston Policemen trusted Charles Ponzi. He was good to them.

The same reason most intelligent, honest, salt-of-the-earth businessmen bought tulips. And paid amazing sums for a tulip bulb.

What was their source? The same source the BLS knows it can count on and trust.

The wave height readings measured in the Sea of Gullibility.

242 posted on 06/10/2004 11:31:06 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

"for an enlightenment go and compare the BLS figures for the last ten years to state income tax revenues for the same period."

Can you source that?


243 posted on 06/10/2004 12:32:10 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: bvw
Absolutely
244 posted on 06/10/2004 12:34:05 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: bvw

LOL! Nice try :-)


245 posted on 06/10/2004 12:34:49 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: bvw

To answer your questions

1)No

2)Yes

3)Yes

4)No

Definition of conspiracy;

1)An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

2)A group of conspirators.

3)Law. An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.

4)A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design: a conspiracy of wind and tide that devastated coastal areas.

Do you mean "Coke is it"?


246 posted on 06/10/2004 12:41:49 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: bvw
What in Heaven's year are you talking about? The people of Boston lost all trust and faith with CHUCK (LOL!) when they realized what a Pyramid Scheme was all about. This is why he went bankrupt. One could say Ponzi's life was a Roller Coaster Ride.

Sea of Gullibility? I am still waiting for factual proof..
247 posted on 06/10/2004 12:56:07 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: bvw

I am still waiting for you all so trustworthy source that disputes the job numbers. Please enlighten me.


248 posted on 06/10/2004 1:04:17 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: bvw

If you understand Supply Side Economics, then you just might understand free trade?


249 posted on 06/10/2004 1:07:51 PM PDT by Sprite518
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