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Chalabi Reportedly Told Iran That U.S. Had Code
New York Times ^ | 6/2/04 | James Risen and David Johnston

Posted on 06/01/2004 8:23:08 PM PDT by saquin

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1 posted on 06/01/2004 8:23:12 PM PDT by saquin
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To: saquin

If true, why is Chalabi not in a holding cell right now?


2 posted on 06/01/2004 8:25:30 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Kerry is a threat to national security)
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To: saquin

encrypted code? the message transmitted via what means? satellite phone?


3 posted on 06/01/2004 8:27:33 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Ron in Acreage

Better yet, if true, why isn't the person who told this to Chalbi fired and being investigated for breach of national security.


4 posted on 06/01/2004 8:28:04 PM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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To: MineralMan; Grampa Dave

Another no comment ping.


5 posted on 06/01/2004 8:28:04 PM PDT by ASA Vet (The "FreeRepublic French" would rather our grandchildren decide which culture is to survive.)
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I didn't realize the security breach was this serious.

If true, Chalabi deserves no consideration. I am also deeply disappointed, because I was in the camp, which was giving him the benefit of the doubt.


6 posted on 06/01/2004 8:28:59 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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" The Iranian reported that Mr. Chalabi said the American had been drunk."

Must be Ted Kennedy

7 posted on 06/01/2004 8:30:08 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: FairOpinion; Allan; Mitchell; okie01; Persephone Kore; Battle Axe; piasa
Hey, it could be true - but then I saw the byline-

"James Risen"

Remember the fake Vaclav Havel phone call to Bush he made up, or repeated from his "sources?" ie, the Atta in Prague case?

8 posted on 06/01/2004 8:32:47 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: FairOpinion

something isn't right. how do you send "a cable" from Iran to Iraq? there is no telco infrastructure there, and if there were, we'd be monitoring everything on it. all but the most sophisticated coding methods are breakable by NSA.


9 posted on 06/01/2004 8:33:03 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: saquin

Wow. This is much worse than I thought.


10 posted on 06/01/2004 8:33:08 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: saquin

Either you're with us, or you're against us.


11 posted on 06/01/2004 8:36:11 PM PDT by eyespysomething (The Barbarians are at the Gates. Don't give Kerry the key!)
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To: saquin

Well, this explains the assassination of the Iranian minister in Iraq a few weeks back.


12 posted on 06/01/2004 8:37:42 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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According to American officials, the Iranian official in Baghdad, possibly not believing Mr. Chalabi's account, sent a cable to Tehran detailing his conversation with Mr. Chalabi, using the broken code. That encrypted cable, intercepted and read by the United States, tipped off American officials to the fact that Mr. Chalabi had betrayed the code-breaking operation, the American officials said.

It is possible, from that account, that Chalabi was set up by the Iranians. They may have learnt of the broken code from another source, then used that cable, and the story about Chalabi, to see if the US would react.

I am just floating that as a possibility - it is all so murky. I think of Chalabi as such an obvious fraud that I am surprised that anyone would give him valued information.

13 posted on 06/01/2004 8:37:44 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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This story is so much horsesh*t. Chalabi never had access to our encrypted stuff. This is a red herring designed to do two things:

1. Force the Iranians to wonder which of their codes have been broken, when in fact they probably have all been broken.

2. Find out who the Iranians are paying over here and walk the dog back up the chain of command.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

14 posted on 06/01/2004 8:43:27 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "John Kerry: all John F., no Kennedy..." Click on my pic!)
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To: saquin

Look at the conduit for this info - the lying, America-hating Marxists at the NYT.

Is the Times setting Bush up for a contrived scandal?

Does someone want Chalabi gone and discredited? State department? Clinton holdovers in defense?

Does Chalabi have info implicating high officials in the oil-for-food scam?

Lots of questions and possibilities.


15 posted on 06/01/2004 8:47:31 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: ASA Vet
Another no comment ping.

It's very hard to know what to believe. Supposedly the CIA and State Dept. had it in for Chalbi but the Pentagon liked him....or maybe not. Who knows what the truth is in that mess?

16 posted on 06/01/2004 8:50:55 PM PDT by xJones
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To: saquin

Michael Ledeen made hash of this nonsense at National Review Online last week. It is a preposterous charge.


17 posted on 06/01/2004 8:52:53 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: FairOpinion
According to American officials, the Iranian official in Baghdad, possibly not believing Mr. Chalabi's account, sent a cable to Tehran detailing his conversation with Mr. Chalabi, using the broken code. That encrypted cable, intercepted and read by the United States, tipped off American officials to the fact that Mr. Chalabi had betrayed the code-breaking operation, the American officials said.

You wrote: "I didn't realize the security breach was this serious."

I am still very skeptical of this sequence. The Iranians are evil, not stupid. Had they learned we had broken their code, the smart thing to do would be to continue to use the old code to feed us bad information. The last thing they would do would be to notify us that they knew we had broken their code--unless the Iranian intelligence goal was to get us to cut off Chalabi. But why would they do that if Chalabi was 'their guy?'

Further, by cutting off funds to Chalabi, we were admitting that we had broken their code. It would really have been better to leave them wondering.

They surely have to have more than this to conclude that Chalabi was at fault.

That said, if Chalabi actually did this, he should be taken down. I am still really skeptical.

18 posted on 06/01/2004 8:55:48 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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On another level....Chalabi has access to damaging info that puts Kofi Annan and his Son squarely to do with the French Bankers in the oil for U.N. Partying thingy.

About the Time...Lakhdar Brahimi[Algerian Sunni] hits the streets of Bugdud...Chalabi's world turns to $...

Kofi and Brahimi have it in for Chalabi.

19 posted on 06/01/2004 9:01:08 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: OneTimeLurker
why isn't the person who told this to Chalbi fired and being investigated for breach of national security

Because, uh, he might turn out to be an Undersecretary for Defense.

Watch for resignations.

20 posted on 06/01/2004 9:01:36 PM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to the real world)
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