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ARABS AND AZTECS > by Dr. Jack Wheeler
Gunny G's ^ | April 30, 2004 | Jack Wheeler

Posted on 06/02/2004 4:13:40 AM PDT by dennisw

ARABS AND AZTECS
Behind The Lines
Dr. Jack Wheeler
Friday, April 30, 2004

Cortez and his Spanish soldiers who conquered the Aztecs are known to history as Conquistadors. That label of Conquerors was applied to them by their contemporaries -- but it originated a generation earlier. It was first used to describe the Spaniards who liberated their own country from Islam.

Arab invaders had swept across Spain in the early 700s, and it took centuries for the Spanish to kick them out. Cortez was not yet 10 years old when they were finally ejected from their last stronghold in Grenada in 1492. When Cortez first looked upon the pyramid temples of the Aztec gods, he called them mezquitas -- mosques.

Cortez saw himself as a liberator -- just as his fathers had liberated Spain from the Islamic yoke, so he would liberate New Spain from the Aztec yoke. Yet he had little idea of how deep were the political-religious parallels between the Arabs and the Aztecs.

The parallels go beyond the death worship of Aztec warriors and Arab suicide-bombers. One of the latter responsible for the train bombings in Madrid declared in a letter: You (Christians) love life -- we (Moslems) love death. Compare this Aztec poem:

There is nothing like death in war Nothing like the flowery death So precious to the gods who give us life Far off I see it! My heart yearns for it!

The deeper parallel is this: both the Arabs and the Aztecs invented a Religion of Jihad as a rationale to justify their imperialist empires.

For the Aztecs, war was their purpose for existence, the sacred manifestation of their religion. War for the Aztecs was always Holy War.

The Aztecs were a tribe of primitive nomads when they first entered the Valley of Mexico in the early 14th century. They were shunned as barbarians by the inhabitants, descendants of the disintegrated Toltec Empire, and were forced to live on swampy islands in the valleys huge lake.

The one thing the Aztecs knew was how to fight. So they hired themselves out as mercenaries to the warring Toltec-remnant principalities. Before long, they had an army big enough to take over the principalities -- which they proceeded to do.

No empire can be held together with simple brute force, however. It requires a rationale, and the Aztecs soon invented one: a religion with gods who need them, the Aztecs, to wage continual war to keep the universe together.

The Aztec god of the hunt was Huitzilopotchtli (The Hummingbird on the Left). Once the Aztecs began conquering other kingdoms in the 1430s, he was transformed into a universal power controlling the earth, the heavens, and the rising of the sun. For reasons the Aztec Witch-Doctors could never explain, Huitzilopotchtli, although a god, required food to sustain his labors in keeping the cosmos in one piece.

The food the Aztec god must have so the sun would rise tomorrow was a daily -- daily -- supply of dozens -- dozens -- of live, beating human hearts, physically ripped out of a living human being chest and placed in the chacmool, the sacred receptacle, fresh, hot, and still palpitating.

In 1487, to celebrate the completion of the Great Temple of Huitzilopotchtli in the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan, 20,000 prisoners were sacrificed in fourteen days, with long lines of victims stretching from the temple in four directions as far as the eye could see.

It was decreed that other gods were perpetually hungry. Tlaloc, the rain god, needed the hearts of children and babies so that it would rain. Xipe, the plant god, needed human skins acquired by skinning a victim alive, so that plants would grow.

Naturally, the tens of thousands of victims needed annually for these cosmic sacrifices could not come from the Aztec people, or else they would quickly kill themselves off. The only way to get them was to capture them as prisoners of war.

Thus war -- Holy War -- became the purpose of the Aztec State. All soldiers in the Aztec Army were Holy Warriors, Warriors of the Gods. Peace was dangerous. No war meant no prisoners to sacrifice, no food for the gods, which risked the destruction of mankind and the universe itself. The only way to avoid cosmic disaster was for the Aztecs to accept the burden fate had given them and wage perpetual war for the salvation of humanity.

All in all, a pretty clever rationalization for a monstrous imperialist tyranny, wouldn't you say? Sounds like they were taking religion-inventing lessons from the Arabs.

For just as the worship of Huitzilopotchtli was an invention to provide a religious justification for Aztec imperialism, so Islam was an invention for the purpose of providing a religious justification for Arab imperialism.

It is commonly taught that the purpose of the Arab Conquest -- Arab hordes exploding out of Arabia in the middle of the 7th century to conquer all of the Christian Middle East, Zoroastrian Persia and Central Asia, Hindu Northern India, and Christian North Africa and Spain in 100 years -- was to spread Islam. It turns out this is the opposite of what actually happened.

That is, just like other nomad hordes that swarmed out of a desert and infested civilizations through history -- like Attila Huns or Genghiz Khan Mongols -- so did the Arabs. Finding themselves in sudden possession of a vast empire of vastly different peoples and all of them non-Arab, the Arabs invented a religion to justify their ruling it, and aptly named it Islam, which in Arabic means Submission. They claimed it meant submission to the Will of God, but what it really meant was submission to them.

This is detailed in The Myth of Mecca, written shortly after the September 11 Moslem attack on America. It is posted in the Classics section of To The Point News, and I could not encourage you more strongly to read it. [ed., article is open to non-subscribers]

At long last, serious scholars have begun researching the history of Islam origins. Their conclusion, in the words of one, I.M. Al-Rawandi, is that the life of Mohammed chronicled in the Sira (the official Islamic hagiography) is a baseless fiction. It was made up. He never lived in Mecca, and if he lived at all, he was a bandit chieftain named Ubuâl Kassim (Mohammedis not a name, it a title meaning The Praised One) who lived in what is now southern Jordan.

An additional conclusion is that the Koran is made up as well -- stories and quotations from scores of varying sources and authors stitched together over a century or two after the Conquest.

This is why the Call to Jihad is hard-wired into the Koran. Jihad is why Islam exists. The Moslem religion was invented by Arabs in order to claim their conquering of other peoples and religions was ordained and approved by God.

After the tide of Arab imperialism was turned back in 15th century Spain, the Ottoman Turks took up the call of Jihad, plundering southeastern Europe for slaves and booty. The Islamic threat to Europe was stopped at Vienna, where the German-Austrian-Polish forces led by Polish King Jan Sobieski defeated the Ottoman invaders on September 12, 1683. Now the threat of Jihad has arisen once again from the deserts of Arabia.

The threat is much closer than in Iraq. Earlier this week (April 26), the New York Times featured an article entitled Militants in Europe Openly Call for Jihad and the Rule of Islam. It focused on a group of Moslem radicals in England called Al-Muhajiroun (The Immigrants) and one of its leaders, a young man calling himself Sayful Islam (Sword of Islam).

The Times story was based on interviews reporter David Cohen of the London Evening Standard had with Sayful and his followers. Mr. Cohen article, Terror on the Dole, is in this issue of the TTP Weekly Report under Guest Authors. Here is an excerpt:

It was the events of 11 September that crystallized Sayful's worldview. "When I watched those planes go into the Twin Towers, I felt elated," he says. "That magnificent action split the world into two camps: you were either with Islam and al Qaeda, or with the enemy. I decided to quit my job and commit myself full-time to al-Muhajiroun."

Now he does not consider himself British. "I am a Muslim living in Britain, and I give my allegiance only to Allah." According to Sayful, the aim of al-Muhajiroun (The Immigrants) is nothing less than Khilafah - "the worldwide domination of Islam". The way to achieve this, he says, is by Jihad, led by Bin Laden. "I support him 100 per cent." Does that support extend to violent acts of terrorism in the UK?

"Yes," he replies, unequivocally. "When a bomb attack happens here, I won't be against it, even if it kills my own children. Islam is clear: Muslims living in lands that are occupied have the right to attack their invaders."

I suggest you re-read that quote and let it sink in. And lest you think this is just an _expression of radical Islam to which all moderate Moslems are opposed, here are the words of Sayful followers:

The mosques say one thing to the public, and something else to us. Let's just say that the face you see and the face we see are two different faces, says Abdul Haq. Believe me, adds Abu Musa, "behind closed doors, there are no moderate Muslims. Centuries ago, Western Civilization had the ability to produce heroes like Cortez and Sobieski who had no qualms over fighting murderously evil empires. Today, even the most courageous leader on earth, George W. Bush, proclaims Islam to be a religion of peace-- when the terrifying reality is that it is a religion of war.

Without perpetual war against the infidels, without Jihad, Islam has no driving purpose. It is therefore incumbent on all those who wish not to someday submit to an Islamic yoke to demand of Moslems that they publicly renounce the Koran Call to Jihad. Civilization only path to peace is for Arabs and their Islamic converts to stop behaving like Aztecs


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To: TheCrusader
On the bright side, Christ always wins.

Unfortunately, the battle can be long and hard.

41 posted on 06/02/2004 7:59:59 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: Tallguy; section9
The day will come, of course, when the Muzzies overreach.

The question then becomes how many have to die before it becomes plainly apparent to everybody, including liberals in and out of government, 'cause 9/11 apparently wasn't enough of a b*tch-slap to wake everybody up.

42 posted on 06/02/2004 8:04:25 AM PDT by adx (Why's it called "tourist season" if you ain't allowed to shoot 'em?)
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To: Saladin2004
And you also mentioned Pyramids, maybe you forget already about your Abu Gharib pyramid stacking, the raping of a young boy and killing of unarmed naked prisoners (The red cross stated that 70-90% of prisoners held were innocent of any crime)or maybe you may call this a little fun, well the Nazis would have also called it a little fun.

In any large population, you will have a certain number of criminals.

The point that you Islamists will never admit in regards to Abu Gharib is that such conduct was reported by an American soldier and investigated by the U.S. Army who then pressed charges. The photos were leaked to the news media by the uncle of one of the abusers when the U.S. Army refused to drop the abuse charges against his nephew.

That is the difference between us.

We denounce and prosecute the crimminals within our society even if the crime is the killing of a handful or merely humiliation.

You glorify the crimminals within you society even if the crimes are the killing of tens of thousands, cutting off hands and feeding prisoners alive into shredders.

43 posted on 06/02/2004 8:04:30 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: adx
The question then becomes how many have to die before it becomes plainly apparent to everybody, including liberals in and out of government, 'cause 9/11 apparently wasn't enough of a b*tch-slap to wake everybody up.

So far as we know, we have yet to be hit on our own soil since 9/11. I say, "so far as we know", because I think several incidents both before and after 9/11 are very curious and could easily have been terrorist acts. I'm certain that we'll be hit again. The political center in the US will shift, you can bet on it.

44 posted on 06/02/2004 8:14:56 AM PDT by Tallguy (Surviving in PA....thats the "other PA"...Pennsylvania.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...

If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.


45 posted on 06/02/2004 8:23:08 AM PDT by SJackson (no Jim Crow, no anti-semitism, education, medical care for everyone-Kerry slogan author on Stalin)
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To: dennisw
Arabs and Aztecs, Arabs and Aztlan

La Raza's struggle for the land and for political and economic self-determination is not different from the struggle of the Palestinian people in Zionist Israel.

We live in Aztlan under Anglo domination as the Palestinians live under Jewish domination. La Raza as well as the Palestinians lost the land through military aggression and both people now live in segregated regions within the larger nation.....

Ministry of Foreign Affairs
October 18, 2000


46 posted on 06/02/2004 8:27:49 AM PDT by SJackson (no Jim Crow, no anti-semitism, education, medical care for everyone-Kerry slogan author on Stalin)
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To: SJackson

Cortez saw himself as a liberator

Riiight.
Don't get me wrong, he did a good thing..no make that a very good thing. The world is a much better place w/o the Aztecs in power. But I really doubt he saw himself as someone who was out to liberate anyone.


47 posted on 06/02/2004 8:28:55 AM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: dennisw
For just as the worship of Huitzilopotchtli was an invention to provide a religious justification for Aztec imperialism, so Islam was an invention for the purpose of providing a religious justification for Arab imperialism.

It is commonly taught that the purpose of the Arab Conquest -- Arab hordes exploding out of Arabia in the middle of the 7th century to conquer all of the Christian Middle East, Zoroastrian Persia and Central Asia, Hindu Northern India, and Christian North Africa and Spain in 100 years -- was to spread Islam. It turns out this is the opposite of what actually happened.

That is, just like other nomad hordes that swarmed out of a desert and infested civilizations through history -- like Attila Huns or Genghiz Khan Mongols -- so did the Arabs. Finding themselves in sudden possession of a vast empire of vastly different peoples and all of them non-Arab, the Arabs invented a religion to justify their ruling it, and aptly named it Islam, which in Arabic means Submission. They claimed it meant submission to the Will of God, but what it really meant was submission to them

The multiculralistas already offer watered down apologetics for the New World's version of a Moloch cult in our public schools and arts. Old World Mohammedanism is following in that same path.

If "Aztec radicals" were to perpetrate a massive attack on US soil that killed thousands, would our President call Montezumanism a peaceful religion? Would he say that Christians, Jews, and Aztecs worship the same God? Would he host Huitzilopotchtli dinners?

Yet President Bush has done the moral equivalent of all of these things with Mohammedanism.


48 posted on 06/02/2004 8:36:26 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Mohammed wrote: "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers." (Sura 8:12))
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To: Saladin2004

49 posted on 06/02/2004 8:37:54 AM PDT by Alouette (Dear Dad & Uncle Ira & all USA vets--Thank you for my Freedom.)
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To: Saladin2004
And you also mentioned Pyramids, maybe you forget already about your Abu Gharib pyramid stacking, the raping of a young boy and killing of unarmed naked prisoners (The red cross stated that 70-90% of prisoners held were innocent of any crime)or maybe you may call this a little fun, well the Nazis would have also called it a little fun.

That Nazis ? You mean your allies.

Islam was founded by a pedophililic, traitorous murderer.

50 posted on 06/02/2004 8:55:58 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: Saladin2004

ZOTted to the Allahu Snackbar!

Enjoy the complementary chicharonnes, Don't forget to pay your tab before you leave.


51 posted on 06/02/2004 9:50:30 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: wizr

"Only, we called it "Manifest Destiny"."

The indians were killing each other for thousands of years before we got here.

Thanks to us, that stopped. Plus, they get to run the casinos! ;)


52 posted on 06/02/2004 9:52:45 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: dennisw; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; Valin; yonif; SJackson; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...
     Nailed It!

Important article PING.

53 posted on 06/02/2004 11:22:45 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: miss marmelstein

Blame their edukashun.


54 posted on 06/02/2004 11:27:57 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Saladin2004

You lack knowledge, lack truth,and lack shame. It takes awhile but we have bled and died to make men free...sometimes we are slow to get it right...but we bring freedom instead of tyranny. We cannot free everyone..but we can aid and encourage.


55 posted on 06/02/2004 11:37:01 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: aruanan
It sounds like warmed over higher criticism applied to Islam instead of to Christianity.

Yes, it does, and also a little hyper. The author, Dr. Jack Wheeler, has a very interesting web autobiography that is certainly enlightening about him: Dr. Jack Wheeler.

Please understand, I don't like the ancient Aztec or Islamic "kultures" at all, but shoddy revisionist writing isn't the way to expose them.

56 posted on 06/02/2004 11:43:44 AM PDT by xJones
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To: Travis McGee
This thread is worth a read. This guy "gets it".

This is why the Call to Jihad is hard-wired into the Koran. Jihad is why Islam exists. The Moslem religion was invented by Arabs in order to claim their conquering of other peoples and religions was ordained and approved by God.

57 posted on 06/02/2004 12:23:36 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: Saladin2004

Unsurprised to see you are already gone. Dream on with the username. Your philosophy of religious-political conquest will be destroyed.


58 posted on 06/02/2004 12:27:23 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: dennisw
Excellent post which I have bookmarked. Bump.
59 posted on 06/02/2004 12:38:04 PM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: Sabertooth
I'd like to add a few items:

The Aztecs were the only cannibal empire in history.
Many victims were eaten after sacrifice; IIRC, the captor got at least one limb, the torso went to feed the emperor's menagerie, the priests got the head (brains...) and the remaining limbs either went to the captor or to the knightly orders. One description of meal had the limb stewed with tomatoes and chilies: sort of a precursor to modern-day chili!

Social advancement was achieved by capturing prisoners for sacrifice. A commoner could achieve noble status by capturing enough prisoners (though the status of the prisoners started mattering after a certain point).

Since the locals had wiped out most of the big game animals, non-warriors and slaves had mostly vegetable diets; they depended on beans, maize and squash to get the amino acids they needed, but sometimes one or more of the "three sisters" was not available. Eating human flesh was a big advantage that just happened to be reserved for nobles, warriors, and priests. Coincidence, right?

BTW: I don't think they took the hearts of children sacrificed to Tlaloc. They beat them to make them cry (symbolizing rain) then drowned them.

And the name of the flayed god was Xipe Totec. The priests wore the flayed skin until it fell apart, so they wanted to do a good job skinning the sacrifice.

Too much information, eh? I have always thought that the Spanish did a good thing by destroying the Aztecs and Incas. I hope we are able to do a good thing by destroying what passes for culture among Islamic nations.
60 posted on 06/02/2004 12:43:11 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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