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ARABS AND AZTECS > by Dr. Jack Wheeler
Gunny G's ^ | April 30, 2004 | Jack Wheeler

Posted on 06/02/2004 4:13:40 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: xJones
...shoddy revisionist writing isn't the way to expose them.

That was my take. Seems a bit too wound up.

20,000 human sacrifices in one day?
All Aztecs were cannibals?
Human sacrifice daily?
I'd like to see the source for that report, esp. since the Spanish priests certainly had no axe to grind. Har.

61 posted on 06/02/2004 1:11:13 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: dennisw; adam_az; All
Shalom!

Wow...what an article!

The Islama-Nazis are...Pereh Adam - wild creatures who are described as appearing in the form of a being - a "man".

Corporately...They are: DEPRAVED, DANGEROUS, DERANGED, DELUSIONAL, DEGENERATE, DESPICABLE, DISINGENUOUS, DISHONEST, DISGRACEFUL, DERELICT, DEFECTIVE, DISEASED, DEPLORABLE, DEVIOUS, DIABOLICAL DEVIL WORSHIPPING DEMON-POSSESSED DEADBEATS and they Live In DENIAL of what is The TRUTH.

And that's only the TIP of the Iceberg!

62 posted on 06/02/2004 1:34:24 PM PDT by Simcha7 ((The Plumb - Line has been Drawn, T'shuvah/Return for The Kingdom of HaShem is at hand!))
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To: TheCrusader; dennisw; All
"pax Christi"...Please allow me to translate to:

The Original Language...HEBREW:

Shalom Alechem b' Yeshua HaMoshiach!

May the "Peace of Jesus THE Messiah be with you"!

Amen ~ and ~ Amen!

63 posted on 06/02/2004 2:28:28 PM PDT by Simcha7 ((The Plumb - Line has been Drawn, T'shuvah/Return for The Kingdom of HaShem is at hand!))
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To: dennisw
We're going to find out, sooner or later, if Abdul will pray, to a glowing crater.
64 posted on 06/02/2004 2:35:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: dennisw

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65 posted on 06/02/2004 2:56:33 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: adam_az

Only one problem with your theory that we helped to settle an ongoing war between ALL the tribes. It ain't true.

In all people there are those that want what others have. In some tribes you became a man by stealing a horse from another tribe. You became a warrior by counting coup on an enemy.

Our system of government is based on that of the Five Civilized Tribes, as we called them.

The Cherokee integrated with those settling the eastern seaboard. They owned farms, dressed as the whites (sic) and some even owned slaves. But, they were still treated as inferior.

The Trail of Tears is the story of the roundup of Cherokee, and others, who were forced to leave there homes, in the Georgia area, and walk to the Cherokee Strip (now Oklahoma). That was circa 1830 and thereafter. If you look at the names of the counties in Oklahoma, you will see many different tribes represented. Oh yeah, the tears were shed for those, young and old, that were not strong enough to make the forced marches, and were buried along the Trail.

The People that fought against the oncoming hordes of settlers, were only trying to maintain their own form of PEACE and FREEDOM.

How does it feel, ya'll, as US Californian's come in and buy up your State, so that your children won't be able to buy a home?

Touche.


66 posted on 06/02/2004 4:47:05 PM PDT by wizr
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To: dennisw
Without perpetual war against the infidels, without Jihad, Islam has no driving purpose. It is therefore incumbent on all those who wish not to someday submit to an Islamic yoke to demand of Moslems that they publicly renounce the Koran Call to Jihad.

The first sentence isn't true, or at least it certainly isn't proven to be truer of Islam than of other religions by Wheeler. But if the first sentence is true, then there's no chance of the aspiration expressed in the second sentence coming true. If Islam does demand holy war, you won't get Muslims abandoning jihad.

If "Dr. Wheeler" can't even keep his own arguments straight it's hard to see why anyone else should be convinced. Tell people that their religion is the equivalent of one that demands massive human sacrifice and you won't get many converts. His article doesn't succeed as scholarship or as persuasion, so it looks like he's just venting.

67 posted on 06/02/2004 5:06:40 PM PDT by x
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To: x
If so, he vents better than you. This is not meant as a scholarly work. Wheeler does enough to get his valid point across.
68 posted on 06/02/2004 7:44:16 PM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: x
Jihad has been called the sixth pillar of Islam. Spread your cult-religion by warfare and this is true. Please look up the Muslim conquests of Persia and North East India.
69 posted on 06/02/2004 7:47:21 PM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: Little Ray
Good facts there. I picked up much of the same from reading about the Aztecs. Nazism, Islamism and the Aztecs are all intriguing for the same reasons. PURE EVIL.
70 posted on 06/02/2004 7:50:46 PM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: dennisw
It's not my cult or religion, but I think the record shows that for much of Islam's history most Muslims weren't fighting Holy Wars or trying to spread their religion by force.

Just what "jihad" means or can mean is another problem. Somehow I don't trust Wheeler and his bizarre comparisons of Islam with the Aztecs' religion of human sacrifice on this.

71 posted on 06/02/2004 8:10:16 PM PDT by x
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To: x
Jihad is the default position of Islam. Of course there are times and places when Islamics are fat and happy and ignore the Koran imprecations to Jihad. But armed Jihad has a lot more support in Koran/Hadith than does the quietist Islam you're thinking of. When Osama and Al Zawahiri (Egyptian sidekick) rant on about Jihad they have plenty of scriptural support.
72 posted on 06/02/2004 8:18:32 PM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: dennisw
. . .20,000 prisoners were sacrificed in fourteen days. . .

That's averaging one per minute, every minute, twenty-four hours a day, for two weeks. Not just, slitting throats, but cardiac surgery on each one or hide removal. I have a hard time believing that. Even the worse monster gets bored with endlessly repetitive tasks, no matter how exciting and politically expedient.

73 posted on 06/02/2004 8:21:07 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: x
So amusing that you give these "diverse" interpretations of Jihad the time of day. Jihad means how to best subjugate the non-Muslim. That's the only "inner struggle" going on.

Of course many Muslims are lazy these days. Have family commitments. Though they sure liked the attack on 9-11. Think lazy and stupid, while the Jihadists are the true interpreters and actors of Islam. Where is the true Islam? The faithful Muslim emulates Muhammad. Go look at the life of Muhammad and his life of murder, plunder, pederasty, rape and Jihad.
74 posted on 06/02/2004 8:26:28 PM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: prognostigaator

where is that statement.... about pelosi and company..


75 posted on 06/02/2004 8:29:15 PM PDT by ARA
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To: William Terrell
. . .20,000 prisoners were sacrificed in fourteen days. . ....


I think it was 20 thousand in a year. They had a huge year for human sacrifice when their temple to the sun was consecrated. IIRC 50 years before Cortez came to their shores.
76 posted on 06/02/2004 8:29:59 PM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: dennisw
So amusing that you give these "diverse" interpretations of Jihad the time of day. Jihad means how to best subjugate the non-Muslim. That's the only "inner struggle" going on.

Come on, you know better than that.

77 posted on 06/02/2004 8:38:02 PM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: x

All Muslims east of Arabia (and north of it) are descendents of those who were converted by FORCE. There used to be many Christians in middle eastern countries, including Egypt. What happened? Forced conversion, or many left to avoid it. The entire Indian subcontinent including Pakistan and all points east - as well as Afghanistan - were conquered by Muslims and there was centuries of forced conversions, rapine, looting, torture, enslavement, slaughter, destruction of culture, villages, temples, forts, palaces, and so on.

Why are there any Muslims in East Asia? Descendents of forced converts and invaders. No other reason.


78 posted on 06/02/2004 8:55:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Take Back The Rainbow! Take back the word "GAY"!)
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To: Valin
I do know better. What I said is not 100% true. It's only 70% true. This "inner struggle" stuff is nonsense for the most part. And it's all going on within a death oriented pagan cult so how much credibility can I give to anything from pompous ass Islamics??

It's a dog and pony show born in the barren Arabian desert.

79 posted on 06/02/2004 8:58:49 PM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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