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McCartney: "I Have Tried Heroin" (Doubtless Explains the Writing of "Silly Love Songs")
The Mirror ^ | 6/2/04 | Jon Wilde and David Edwards

Posted on 06/02/2004 10:51:49 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

AT THE very height of Beatlemania, the Fab Four played to an astonishing 500,000 people during a 1964 whirlwind tour of the US.

Today, 40 years on, Sir Paul McCartney will be seen by more than 700,000 fans in a 13-date European tour. Not bad for a man who turns 62 this month.

But even though he is in numerical terms a bigger draw than the Beatles ever were, he is not about to play down the debt he owes to his years in the biggest pop group of all time.

In his most revealing interview ever, McCartney has talked candidly about his love for John Lennon, the nervous breakdown he suffered after the Beatles split and why he should never have released some of his solo albums.

Although it's well known that he dabbled with drugs, including cannabis and cocaine, he reveals for the first time how he once took heroin.

His verdict: "It didn't do anything for me, which was lucky because I wouldn't have fancied heading down that road."

McCartney, who is due to headline the Glastonbury Festival on June 26, says: "What's amazed me about the big tours I've done in the last few years is that the thrill is as great as it ever was.

"We go on tour now and I think I should be fed up with it all by now - after all, I've done a fair bit of it. But I go to places like Mexico City and I get an audience that's louder than any I've ever heard, including those at Beatles gigs.

"I'm singing Hello Goodbye and the way they react is so completely overwhelming that I can barely get the words out."

But he knows that the songs he and John Lennon wrote together will get the biggest cheers of all.

"There are days when I wake up and have to remind myself that I wrote songs with John Lennon," he says.

"It's fantastic that he was a part of my life in that way.

IMAGINE the luxury of being stuck on a song and being able to hand it over to John Lennon to finish off. Do I miss that? Of course I do. Hugely.

"In all the years I wrote with John, I can't remember a single occasion when we didn't come up with a song.

"At worst, we'd write at least once every day. It all happened at an amazing pace.

"We'd sag off school and write songs at my house. We'd start at two in the afternoon and we had to be finished by five so we could clean up and clear out before my dad got home.

"We wrote loads of stuff. We'd stuff some Twinings tea in a pipe, smoke that and write songs. It wasn't all good but we always came up with something.

"We all had a common vision, at least in the early days. The thing about me and John is that we were different - but we weren't that different.

"I think Linda put her finger on it when she said me and John were like mirror images of each other.

"Even down to how we started writing together, facing each other, eyeball-to-eyeball, exactly like looking in the mirror.

"On the surface, I was very easy-going, always accommodating, but, at certain times, I would very much be the hard man of the duo.

"John would allow me to take that role because it enabled him to drop his guard and be vulnerable.

"On the surface, he was this hard, witty guy, always on hand with a cutting witticism. He appeared caustic, even cruel at times, but really he was very soft.

"John was very insecure. He carried a lot of that from his upbringing, what with his father leaving when he was five.

"Then, of course, we'd both lost our mothers, so we had that in common. Ultimately, we were equals."

After releasing their debut album in 1963, the Beatles - Lennon, McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr - went on to become the biggest names in pop.

By the time they split up in 1970,they had released some of the most innovative, groundbreaking albums ever, including Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. In the early days one of their biggest influences was Elvis Presley, but as the King's career faltered in the 60s drugs became another inspiration.

"The army had kind of ruined Elvis," says Paul. "He'd been this ultimate rebel figure who we'd all worshipped.

"Then they made him cut his hair and he had to call everyone 'sir', and he was never really the same again.

"Just about everyone was doing drugs in one form or another and we were no different, but the writing was too important for us to mess it up by getting off our heads all the time. It was just easier to write when we were straight and seemly.

"It was only on Pepper that we started to use stuff in the studio. On the earlier albums we'd have been using those drugs socially, so in that sense the drugs informed what we did.

"A song like Got To Get You Into My Life, that's directly about pot, although everyone missed it at the time. Day Tripper, that's one about acid. Lucy In The Sky, that's pretty obvious.

"There's others that make subtle hints about drugs, but, you know, it's easy to overestimate the influence of drugs on the Beatles' music.

"I tried heroin just the once. Even then, I didn't realise I'd taken it. I was just handed something, smoked it, then found out what it was.

"It didn't do anything for me, which was lucky because I wouldn't have fancied heading down that road.

"I did cocaine for about a year around the time of Sergeant Pepper. Coke and maybe some grass to balance it out. I was never completely crazy with cocaine.

"I'd been introduced to it and at first it seemed OK, like anything that's new and stimulating.

"When you start working your way through it, you start thinking: 'Mmm, this is not so cool an idea', especially when you start getting those terrible comedowns."

Perhaps the biggest comedown of all came as the group imploded at the end of the 60s when McCartney sued the other Beatles to dissolve the band.

"It was 10 years of hell," he says. "What followed was that everyone was split into camps.

"There were three of them and one of me. John, George and Ringo had been my best mates.

"Now they were my enemies. That was really, really hard to take.

"In the Beatles, we'd always had this running joke: 'What are we going to do when the bubble bursts?'

"Then it did burst and I went up to my farm in Scotland, wondering what the hell I was going to do next.

"I seriously thought about giving up music altogether. It was a bloody hard time.

"It was difficult to get up in the morning. I was drinking quite a lot, probably having a bit of a nervous breakdown. Looking back, I was in a state of grief. I realise that now. Grief for the end of the Beatles."

It was only through music that he was able to rouse himself from his torpor. In 1971 he founded Wings with his first wife Linda, Denny Laine and Denny Seiwell.

Although the band sold millions of records, it never received anything like the critical acclaim lavished upon the Beatles.

"Early Wings were pretty rough, not terribly good," admits Paul. "There was a time when the Beatles weren't very good, but we were able to be not very good in private.

"Wings had to do it in public and there was always the shadow of the Beatles, which didn't help.

"One thing you have to say is that I've put out an awful lot of records. Some of them I shouldn't have put out, sure. I'd gladly accept that.

"There's many different reasons for putting a record out. Sometimes I might just put one out because I'm bored and I've got nothing better to do.

"In 1977, I fancied doing a Scottish bagpipe song, so I wrote Mull Of Kintyre. The people who hated it were p****d off with me.

"Of course, it didn't help that it came out at the height of punk rock. But what should I have done at that time? Stuck a safety pin through my nose and done some bonkers punk song?

MY attitude is really: 'Sod you. You think Mull Of Kintyre is crap - you try writing something like that.' I do get annoyed at having to justify myself.

"Since school, I've never liked having to do that. I never liked anyone telling me what to do. I never liked that bullying tendency."

Wings split up in 1980 - the year McCartney was arrested at Tokyo International Airport after marijuana was found in his luggage.

He remembers: "I was out in New York and I had all this really good grass. Excellent stuff.

"We were about to fly to Japan and I knew I wouldn't be able to get anything to smoke over there. This stuff was too good to flush down the toilet, so I thought I'd take it with me.

"Looking back, it's not too wonderful being banged up in a Japanese jail.

"When I first arrived I was thinking: 'This is a storm in a teacup - I'll be out in no time.' Then the British vice-consul told me I could get seven years of hard labour. That's when it got extremely worrying.

"It was five days before Linda was allowed to visit me and I'd never spent a night apart from her since we'd married. It was pretty rough. Just a thin mattress on the floor.

"I had to wash myself using water from the toilet cistern. I had to share a bath with a bloke who was in for murder. I was afraid to take my suit off in case I got raped."

Twenty-four years on, possessing pot doesn't seem quite the heinous offence it once was. McCartney says: "Just the other day I went for a walk on my own in the Hollywood Hills.

"This bunch of teenagers passed by me and one of them turned to me and said: 'Hey, Macca, you're the man! Fancy joining us for a smoke?'

"To me, it's a huge compliment that a bunch of kids think I might be up to smoke a bit of dope with them.

"I'd be mad not to feel blessed, wouldn't I? I've been a lucky bugger and so many things that happened to me were pure chance.

"I'm lucky, very f*****g lucky, just to still be vibing and loving life and holding on to my enthusiasm for things."

For the full interview, check out this month's Uncut - the music and movies magazine, on sale from tomorrow.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: beatlemania; beatles; culturewar; drugs; hedonist; heroin; libertine; macca; mccartney; music; paulmccartney; rock; rockandroll; rockmusic; rolemodel; sirpaul; thebeatles
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1 posted on 06/02/2004 10:51:49 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Oh, I am the walrus GOO GOO G’JOOB.


2 posted on 06/02/2004 11:07:56 PM PDT by anonymous_user (Telling the truth means you never have to change your story.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
why he should never have released some of his solo albums

I liked Wings at the time but this guy seems to be lamenting he wasn't a neurosurgeon. Grow up Paul. You didn't change the world, but you certainly entertained it.

It may have not been the most noble cause but that's not a bad thing.

3 posted on 06/02/2004 11:08:57 PM PDT by lizma
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To: lizma
I liked Wings at the time but this guy seems to be lamenting he wasn't a neurosurgeon.

Or maybe a high end accountant eh? Get real. Oh, and I agree with Paul, Wings sucked.

4 posted on 06/02/2004 11:12:27 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

No mention of "I am the Walrus" on a Beatles and drug interview?


5 posted on 06/02/2004 11:18:37 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong.” - Reagan)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

"I liked Wings at the time but this guy seems to be lamenting he wasn't a neurosurgeon.
Or maybe a high end accountant eh? Get real. Oh, and I agree with Paul, Wings sucked."

paul said that wings sucked?

(i think the ref to "neurosurgeon" may have been a ref to "temporary secretary" from mccartney II)

my friends frown at me when i say that i like wings better than the beatles.

paul was definitely the most talented, he taught his wife to sing. if only john could've done that...

if i was stranded on a desert island, and had a choice of ten records to have, two of them would be wings over america, and mccartney II.


6 posted on 06/02/2004 11:22:21 PM PDT by gooseanders
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To: gooseanders
paul said that wings sucked?

"Early Wings were pretty rough, not terribly good," admits Paul.

Seems pretty clear to me. And I agree with him, they weren't terribly good, or in other words, they sucked.

7 posted on 06/02/2004 11:27:55 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Conclusive evidence that Paul McCartney used heroin at least once in his life:


8 posted on 06/02/2004 11:29:16 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Thanks for the article. He fascinates me, because I just cannot imagine the life that they have had. Totally incomparable. Unimaginable.

The comment about being flattered to be asked to smoke weed with kids was kinda dumb though. I suppose he may be saying he was flattered that they thought an older guy like him was still cool.


9 posted on 06/02/2004 11:31:45 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Joe Hadenuf

"Early Wings were pretty rough, not terribly good," admits Paul.

"Seems pretty clear to me. And I agree with him, they weren't terribly good, or in other words, they sucked."

he also said the same thing about early beatles. do you think that the beatles sucked?


10 posted on 06/02/2004 11:36:59 PM PDT by gooseanders
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To: Joe Hadenuf

They were better than 95% of the guano that's on the radio today.


11 posted on 06/03/2004 12:06:35 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (4 months in the Mekong don't make up for 30 years of lies and shameful votes since then.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"It was only on Pepper that we started to use stuff in the studio. On the earlier albums we'd have been using those drugs socially, so in that sense the drugs informed what we did.

"A song like Got To Get You Into My Life, that's directly about pot, although everyone missed it at the time. Day Tripper, that's one about acid. Lucy In The Sky, that's pretty obvious.

"Got To Get You Into My Life" is about marijuana? It doesn't make a bit of sense at all.


Got to Get You Into My Life

I was alone, I took a ride,
I didn’t know what I would find there.
Another road where maybe I
Could see another kind of mind there.
Ooh then I suddenly see you,
Ooh did I tell you I need you
Ev’ry single day of life?
You didn’t run, you didn’t lie,
You knew I wanted just to hold you,
And had you gone, you knew in time
We’d meet again for I had to hold you.
Ooh you were meant to be near me,
Ooh and I want to hear me,
Say we’ll be together ev’ry day.
Got to get you into my life.
What can I do, what can I be?
When I’m with you I want to stay there.
If I’m true I’ll never leave,
And if I do I know the way there.
Ooh then I suddenly see you,
Ooh did I tell you I need you
Ev’ry single day of my life?
Got to get you into my life.
Got to get you into my life.
I was alone, I took a ride,
I didn’t know what I would find there.
Another road where maybe I
Could see another kind of mind there.
Ooh then I suddenly see you,
Ooh did I tell you I need you
Ev’ry single day of life?
What are you doing to my life?

Jeez Louise, was he stoned when he gave this interview?

12 posted on 06/03/2004 12:15:10 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Recently, Paul McCartney has been citing drug culture and social struggle as having directly inspired his music. As you would expect from an authentic artist, he previously scoffed at such pop culture theorizing. Unfortunately all those years of pot consumption have addled the brain of a marvelous song writer and troubador. It's funny that he doesn't see the connection with the band members' drug addictions and their 'implosion'. Now he's rambling on about how great it is that the Hollywood street vermin are inviting him for a smoke. I repeat, shut up, Paul.


13 posted on 06/03/2004 12:29:54 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: L.N. Smithee

Now it can be told. John the eclectic, George the acetic, and Paul the copacetic. I had always admired him for that, but after reading that interview, I've come full circle.

You would think that an almost-62-year-old man would have learned to keep his mouth shut about his drug use, having seen the damage it's done in the world since the 60s. Now he graciously informs us that songs we adored in our youth, and taught our children to love, were inspired by drugs after all. Ta, Paulie.


14 posted on 06/03/2004 12:36:53 AM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: L.N. Smithee

I can see it. (no, I'm not high....or burned out) :)

Strawberry Fields forever man! Peace!


15 posted on 06/03/2004 12:38:10 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: lizma
You didn't change the world,

Unfortunately they did change the world, but not in a particularly positive way.

16 posted on 06/03/2004 1:03:07 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"I tried heroin just the once. Even then, I didn't realise I'd taken it. I was just handed something, smoked it, then found out what it was.

"It didn't do anything for me, which was lucky because I wouldn't have fancied heading down that road.

"I did cocaine for about a year around the time of Sergeant Pepper. Coke and maybe some grass to balance it out. I was never completely crazy with cocaine.

"I'd been introduced to it and at first it seemed OK, like anything that's new and stimulating.

And yet pot's not a gateway drug...

He kept looking for a new kind of kick. Article doesn't go into how his depression after the breakup of the Beatles lead to alcoholism.

17 posted on 06/03/2004 1:34:18 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: L.N. Smithee

>>> "Got To Get You Into My Life" is about marijuana? It doesn't make a bit of sense at all.



"I was alone, I took a ride, I didn’t know what I would find there. Another road where maybe I Could see another kind of mind there."



"Girl" sounds to me a whole lot like it's about pot (the constant sounds of inhaling add to that perception) or at least addiction:



Is there anybody going to listen to my story
All about the girl who came to stay?
She's the kind of girl you want so much
It makes you sorry
Still you don't regret a single day.
Ah girl! Girl!

When I think of all the times I've tried SO HARD to leave her
She will turn to me and start to cry;
And she promises the earth to me
And I believe her
After all this time I don't know why.
Ah, girl! Girl!

She's the kind of girl who puts you down
When friends are there, you feel a fool.
When you say she's looking good
She acts as if it's understood.
She's cool, cool, cool, cool,
Girl! Girl! [Was she]

Was she told when she was young that pain
Would lead to pleasure?
Did she understand it when they said
That a man must break his back to earn
His day of leisure?
Will she still believe it when he's dead?
Ah girl! Girl! Girl!



"Rain" is another of their admitted drug songs:


If the rain comes they run and hide their heads.
They might as well be dead.
If the rain comes, if the rain comes.
When the sun shines they slip into the shade
(When the sun shines down.)
And sip their lemonade.
(When the sun shines down.)
When the sun shines, when the sun shines.
Rain, I don't mind.
Shine, the weather's fine.
I can show you that when it starts to rain,
(When the Rain comes down.)
Everything's the same.
(When the Rain comes down.)
I can show you, I can show you.
Rain, I don't mind.
Shine, the weather's fine.
Can you hear me, that when it rains and shines,
(When it Rains and shines.)
It's just a state of mind?
(When it rains and shines.)
Can you hear me, can you hear me?
If the rain comes they run and hide their heads.
sdaeh rieht edih dna nur yeht semoc niar eht fI.
(Rain)
naiR.
(Rain)
enihsnuS

Dear Prudence was about an acid trip with Mia Farrow's sister.


18 posted on 06/03/2004 1:47:53 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

Actually Paul and George talked about this in the Beatles Anthology documentary. I don't know if those elements aired in the ABC broadcasts (the videos were longer than the tv shows).


19 posted on 06/03/2004 1:49:32 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: bc2; labowski; LibertyGrrrl; marktuoni; itsamelman; Sam's Army; RepoGirl; Redcoat LI; mylife; ...

20 posted on 06/03/2004 1:53:15 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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