Could be. I think this man is a better fit:
Posted on 06/04/2004 12:33:41 PM PDT by Republican Red
On CNN's website, Bill Clinton is listed as a VP Contender with the ending sentence in his credentials as follows:
CNN:
While federal law prohibits a person from seeking a third presidential term, the Constitution does not specify whether or not a former commander in chief can become vice president.
U.S. CONSTITUTION:
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
Constitution, Smonstitution, if we want Bill then we can report it anyway we see fit.
The one reason you can take to the bank that he WON'T be a VP candidate is that it would screw up Hillary's plans..
John Kerry-the Manchurian Candidate?
Well since the left continues to say Bush wasn't elected, when he wins in November, by their measure it will be his first elected term and thus can run for reelection in 2008!
Not really, she ran the White House while he played with Monica. Bill as VP, a hit on Kerry, and Hill is back in charge.
CNN, you guys full of crap.
What is it about BC that's so appealing? Is it nostaligia, reminding people of high-tech IPO's and $100/share DOT COM stocks?
They certainly need a remedial course in reading comprehension, don't they?
Brit Hume should comment on this tonight!
Very good!
Chris Matthews misses his oratorical skills.
Oh boy, McCain is gonna be mad.
Who would float these kind of statements out there anyways?
Clinton's trying to discredit Kerry's campaign again maybe?
So there's a legitimate argument that one can Constitutionally succeed to the office of President, even if one has previously been elected twice.
Of course, it's a moot point, because you have to work at CNN to be dumb enough to think that Kerry might pick Bill Clinton as his running mate.
Ah yes. Reminds me of Plato's Gorgias. It's all about telling people what they want to hear and titilating them with eloquence of form, not about real knowledge of the subject matter.
CNN-fair and balanced!
But, but, but, FOX news lies.
(sarcasm again)
Could be. I think this man is a better fit:
I guess if anyone is up to the task of defining what "is" is it's Bill Clinton. But I still think even the 22 Amendment is pretty clear.
Amendment XXII
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
CNN is part of the Clinton "trial balloon" team. Put it out there, and see how the public reacts. "Maybe we can get them to write letters and get this law changed so we can go back and serve them. They need me!" Hey, Bill - go finish it off in the sink.
I commented on the list in a local group. Heres the liberal response.
http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/08/columns/fl.dorf.goreclinton.08.01/
Because CNN says so.
You're right, and I've wondered about that for some time. Can the Secretary of State who is not natural born become President, if the President, Vice President, Speaker of the House, and President Pro Tem of the Senate all resign? He would not be elected but his office would be next in line.
Contrast that with Article II's statement of eligibility: "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States." (My italics)
No, because (see my previous post), the eligibility requirements in Article 2 specifically state the requirements to be "eligible to the office," while the 22nd Amendment merely defines how many times one can be "elected to the office."
Does this mean that if Kerry were to die Clinton couldn't take office? If thats the case then why even have a VP!
I think I know where you get the "ten years" thing, but I don't believe it's actually in the Constitution. It comes from the possibility of serving two years of an unexpired term, plus two terms of one's own, for a total of ten years.
he would be elected to the VP postion...
I am sure that some 9th Circuit Judge will rule that the 12th isn't worded CORRECTLY to prevent Clinton from being the Vice-President NOR the POTUS in case of Effingkerry's demise, based on the 22nd.
You sure that isn't oral skills?
Actually, this is not beyond the realm of possibility. The Dims love Bubba, it would put them into a permanent orgasmic state. If he won (which he won't), Kerry would suddenly find a reason to not run in '08, Bubba the LoveSponge couldn't run, so it would be prime time for Hillary the Hateful. Think twice before you dismiss this diabolical plan.
Our reaction to this shows clearly why we conservatives are too stupid and closed-minded and mentally unbalanced to ever be allowed to have any kind of power. We just don't grasp the nuances in that phrase like the people who argue about what the meaning of "is" is do.
You're right again. Thanks for clearing that up.
This has nothing to do with whether we like Clinton or not. The Constitution does not prevent him from being elected Veep, or assuming the presidency if something ... ummmm, happens to the prez.
If we can prohibit him (or any president who cannot be elected) from running, couldn't we also prevent a former president who might be in the line of succession (e.g. cabinet official) from taking the office as theoretically all the ones ahead of him can die or resign?
In any event, adding Clinton to the mix would only lose Kerry votes.
"Actually, what the 22nd Amendment says is: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice...." (My italics)
So there's a legitimate argument that one can Constitutionally succeed to the office of President, even if one has previously been elected twice."
Yes. That's the point. The 22nd Amendment says nothing about "ineligibility to the office of President."
Correct and correct.
But wouldn't the "10 years total" thing, found in the 22nd Amendment, make him ineligible?
As I've read the two amendments, what they mean to me is that Clinton could become President if he were Vice-President, but then he could not run for re-election.
Nevermind, I see now.
Where is the Barf alert?
"I think I know where you get the "ten years" thing, but I don't believe it's actually in the Constitution. It comes from the possibility of serving two years of an unexpired term, plus two terms of one's own, for a total of ten years."
And don't think Kerry wouldn't be sleeping with one eye open (and not just due to botox swelling).
Amendment XXIIAs I said before, the supposed "ten-year limit" comes from the possibility of filling two years of an unexpired term, plus two elected terms. But whoever came up with that idea didn't consider the possibility of a former President succeeding to the office.Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.
NOT!!! Kerry would like to continue to live. He's got to figure if Hill or Billy are VP's, he's a goner.
ARTICLE II
SECTION I
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Ammendment XII
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
AMMENDMENT XXIII
Section 1.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once...............
Seems prety clear to me that there is a loophole allowing anyone who meets the requirements for the Presidency in ARTICLE II, Section 1, including former presidents, to run for the Vice Presidency or be apointed to it if there is a vacancy, and to serve as President if the President dies or os removed.
SO9
I believe the Speaker of the House is next in line (and the House can pick whomever they want for that position--it doesn't have to be a Member of Congress)...so in theory Clinton could be chosen Speaker, and the President and Vice President could resign simultaneously, and Clinton could become President. In that case, there wouldn't be any time limit--he could serve the remainder of the term. Fortunately that's never going to happen.
If you take a look at the actual site, you see that they list just about anyone and everyone as possible VP contenders. I mean Tom Brokaw is listed as a possible canadate. Come on!! That would be equivalent to admitting that there is a media bias, which will never happen.
If the editors / reporters had a copy of the Constitution as amended available in their offices, and if they could read, the answer would be obvious.
Congressman Billybob
It'll never happen, no matter whether the Constitution forbids it or not. Oh, people will always talk about getting Bill Clinton on the ticket, as long as he's alive, but I doubt anybody's actually dumb enough to pick him as a running mate. As loath as they are to admit it, every Democratic politician in America--Kerry, Hillary, you name 'em--knows that being the only thing standing between Bubba and another shot at the White House would be gravely hazardous to his or her health.
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