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Belmont Stakes (Smarty Jones) -- LIVE THREAD
Belmont Stakes ^

Posted on 06/05/2004 6:28:23 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist

Glory, or heartbreak.

I looked but did not see a thread. My apologies if someone else did one. I will post as many good racing links as I can find.

The lineup:

Birdstone

Caiman

Eddington

Master David

Purge

Rock Hard Ten

Royal Assault

Smarty Jones

Tap Dancer


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KEYWORDS: 6pmeastern; belmontstakes; smartyjones; triplecrown
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I'm hoping it's not even close. After 26 years, it would be nice to see the Triple Crown won in spectacular fashion.
1 posted on 06/05/2004 6:28:23 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist
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To: Admin Moderator

If there is no other post, can this serve as the "Live Thread" today. I apologize if this is a duplicate.


2 posted on 06/05/2004 6:29:41 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (Go Smarty!)
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To: Types_with_Fist

9 horses..that's a good size field. Not too big, not too small.

I think he's gonna do it!


3 posted on 06/05/2004 6:31:50 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Ok... I'll posted since no one else has... I just can resist it...


I got 5 on Smarty to take it all... ;)


4 posted on 06/05/2004 6:32:21 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Causing a cold shiver to go down a liberals spine every 8 seconds... and loving it!)
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To: Types_with_Fist

No other thread. Thanks.


5 posted on 06/05/2004 6:32:28 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Types_with_Fist

SMARTY JONES! SMARTY JONES!


6 posted on 06/05/2004 6:32:28 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: nuconvert

He's also outside, where he likes to be.


7 posted on 06/05/2004 6:32:32 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (Go Smarty!)
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To: Americanwolf

can=can't


8 posted on 06/05/2004 6:33:05 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Causing a cold shiver to go down a liberals spine every 8 seconds... and loving it!)
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To: Types_with_Fist

yeah from what i have read.. he likes to sit on the outside and then once he gets his stride he takes off on the outside... he is a distance runner too if i remember correctly.


9 posted on 06/05/2004 6:34:41 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Causing a cold shiver to go down a liberals spine every 8 seconds... and loving it!)
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To: Types_with_Fist
I'm hoping it's not even close. After 26 years, it would be nice to see the Triple Crown won in spectacular fashion.

Same here. Besides, I love his name!
10 posted on 06/05/2004 6:37:33 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: Types_with_Fist

What's the track condition? Weather predicted?
(not that he seems to be bothered by it)


11 posted on 06/05/2004 6:37:58 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Types_with_Fist

I'm not really a horse racing fan, but this event is pretty cool.

What time is the race?


12 posted on 06/05/2004 6:38:10 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: texasflower

thought I heard them say 6:10 Eastern


13 posted on 06/05/2004 6:39:06 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: texasflower

Nope...just saw Belmont Stakes Post Time: 6:38 PM


14 posted on 06/05/2004 6:41:12 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Americanwolf
LET IT RIDE, SMARTY

BUT HE'LL HAVE 'BULL'S-EYE ON HIS BACK'

EXPECT 'SMARTY' TO REIGN TODAY

Expect crowning glory for Smarty Jones

15 posted on 06/05/2004 6:42:36 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (Go Smarty!)
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To: nuconvert

60 degrees chance of light rain is 70 percent most of the day with showers after 7 pm


16 posted on 06/05/2004 6:43:24 AM PDT by alisasny (SMARTY JONES FOR SECRETARY OF OFFENSE)
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To: nuconvert
What's the track condition? Weather predicted?

I heard rain. Can anyone confirm?

17 posted on 06/05/2004 6:43:30 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (Go Smarty!)
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To: texasflower
Times are Eastern"

WHAT: 136th running of the Belmont Stakes

WHEN: 6:38 p.m. post time

WHERE: Belmont Park, Elmont, N.Y.

DISTANCE: 1 ½ milesWEIGHT: 126 pounds

TV: NBC-10, 5:30-7 p.m. Prerace coverage

on ESPN, 1-5:30 p.m.

RADIO: KYW (1060-AM); ESPN (920-AM), 6 p.m.

WEATHER: Showers are expected throughout the day; temps in the mid-50s.

ON THE WEB: nyra.com/belstakes2004 TRACK PHONE: 516-488-6000

IF YOU GO

ADMISSION: All seats are sold out and there is no infield access. There is room for thousands of fans on a first-come basis in the back yard picnic area, trackside apron area and three interior levels.

PRICE: Clubhouse admission is $5; grandstand admission is $2.

PARKING: Preferred parking is $15; general parking is $5.

TIME SCHEDULE: Parking gates open at 8:15 a.m.; admission gates open at 8:30. Post time for the first of 13 races is noon.

GETTING THERE BY CAR: Get off the New Jersey Turnpike at the Outerbridge Crossing into Staten Island. Follow signs across Staten Island toward the Verrazano Narrows Bridge. Cross the bridge and get on the Belt Parkway. Continue for 15-20 miles. Get on the Cross Island Parkway North. Exits for Belmont Park are 26-D and 26-B.

GETTING THERE BY TRAIN: Amtrak trains will leave 30th Street Station for Penn Station tomorrow at 8:16 a.m., 10:16 a.m., and 11:10 a.m. Visit www.amtrak.com for details. The crowd at Belmont will be enormous. We recommend strongly catching that 8:16 a.m. train. From Penn Station, Long Island Rail Road will be offering extra trains beginning at 9:59 a.m. and continuing until 2:59 p.m. For the return trip, trains will leave Belmont Park every 15 minutes from 6:30-9 p.m. The station is right outside the second floor of the grandstand. Call 718-217-LIRR or visit http://www.mta.info/lirr/service/BelmontStakes.htm.


18 posted on 06/05/2004 6:43:41 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Types_with_Fist

see post 16 on weather :)


19 posted on 06/05/2004 6:43:56 AM PDT by alisasny (SMARTY JONES FOR SECRETARY OF OFFENSE)
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To: Types_with_Fist; ml/nj

freeper Ml/nj is actually going to the race. Im sure he will post when he gets home tonight.


20 posted on 06/05/2004 6:44:49 AM PDT by alisasny (SMARTY JONES FOR SECRETARY OF OFFENSE)
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To: alisasny

I only looked at my FReep mail this morning and replied to your note. Sorry about that. Thanks for keeping the tagline...:-)


21 posted on 06/05/2004 6:44:52 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (Go Smarty!)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Light rain right now. What it's going to be by post time is anyone's guess--but Smarty Jones is a mudder.

http://www.weatherunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=elmont+


22 posted on 06/05/2004 6:45:26 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Types_with_Fist

I am about 20 miles east of Belmont.

Right now sun is peaking through the clouds and there was some drizzle about an hour ago. I will post if it starts pouring or gets really bad out but hey maybe it will clear up a bit.


23 posted on 06/05/2004 6:45:54 AM PDT by alisasny (SMARTY JONES FOR SECRETARY OF OFFENSE)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Nothing like being nine hours early for the job. ;)


24 posted on 06/05/2004 6:52:27 AM PDT by NoExcusesAnymore
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To: Catspaw; nuconvert

Thank you both for the info!


25 posted on 06/05/2004 6:53:54 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Ping the saddle club?

GO SMARTY!!


26 posted on 06/05/2004 6:55:44 AM PDT by ecurbh (Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo)
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To: Types_with_Fist; ecurbh; CindyDawg; AnAmericanMother; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Capriole; ...
~sending good good luck to Smarty Jones~

Ping!


27 posted on 06/05/2004 6:58:34 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (The Democratic Party has jumped the shark.)
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To: NoExcusesAnymore

Yeah, guess I'm a fanatic...:-)


28 posted on 06/05/2004 7:01:11 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (Go Smarty!)
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To: Types_with_Fist
Thanks for the info, that's 3:38 on the West Coast, eh?

Will have to tape it, darn.

29 posted on 06/05/2004 7:01:26 AM PDT by budwiesest
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To: All

Go Smarty!!!


30 posted on 06/05/2004 7:02:15 AM PDT by ShakeNJake
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To: Types_with_Fist
SMARTY JONES - great-great-great grandson of SECRETARIAT*******HE CAN'T LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

HERE'S GRANDPA


31 posted on 06/05/2004 7:03:56 AM PDT by soozla (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: soozla
Trainer John Servis conducted a press conference with approximately 60 members of the media in the barn area...
32 posted on 06/05/2004 7:06:15 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (Go Smarty!)
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To: Types_with_Fist
Here's my two cent handicapping of the race:

Horse, Recent Beyer Speed Number Avg. (-ish), 1st or 2nd Place/Total Races, Avg. Winnings per Race

9. Smarty Jones, 110, 8/8, $300,000
5. Rock Hard Ten, 102, 3/4, $87,000
2. Purge, 102, 4/5, $47,000
8. Eddington, 96, 4/7, $36,000
1. Master David, 91, 6/9, $32,000

Looking at the weather, Purge and Master David have each run one race on a muddy or sloppy track and hated it - the worst race for each. Rock Hard Ten and Eddington have always run on fast or good tracks. Can't tell how they'll take to mud in their faces and under their feet. Smarty Jones has run once on a muddy and once on a sloppy track winning both races (Ark. and Kent. Derbys) with 107 Beyer speed numbers. Those numbers are better than the speed numbers for every other race of every other horse in the Belmont Stakes except Purge's 108 number on May 22 at Belmont in the 1 1/8 mile Peter Pan Grade II Stakes.

Given the track conditions, my trifecta is: Smarty Jones, Rock Hard Ten and Eddington. I might add Purge for a superfecta.

33 posted on 06/05/2004 7:09:07 AM PDT by JamesWilson
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To: soozla

I didn't know he had Secretariat in his bloodline.


34 posted on 06/05/2004 7:12:05 AM PDT by I still care
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To: Types_with_Fist
For nearly a week, Servis, the low-key, level-headed trainer of Smarty Jones, hinted that he expected other horses in the race to come gunning for Smarty Jones from the start in an attempt to rattle him or put him off his game.

This is what I fear. Nick Zito has two entries (Birdstone and Royal Assault) in the race. Stewart Elliot will really have to be on the ball in this race.

Good Luck to Smarty and company!

35 posted on 06/05/2004 7:13:04 AM PDT by MissTargets
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To: Types_with_Fist

I have no problems with it. Go Smarty!

Muddy track conditions, longer race, cinderella horse... what could be better.

A&E is running a Biography show on the horse. It's an amazing story.


36 posted on 06/05/2004 7:13:14 AM PDT by NoExcusesAnymore
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To: Types_with_Fist

Glory! Smarty was ahead by 20 lenghts in the Preakness when they stopped him from running at 1 3/8 of a mile (unofficially, of course)


37 posted on 06/05/2004 7:14:26 AM PDT by kalama
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To: Types_with_Fist

Thanks for the thread.
I see the Belmont as a two horse race,with Purge taking the early lead and Smarty stalking the pace with Birdstone close up. At the half Smarty will make his move for the lead while Purge stays on strong for second in the stretch run. I am betting an 80 dollar exacta with Smarty on top and Purge for second. 20 dollar triple with Smarty first Purge second and Eddington for third. Triple Crown Winner this year for sure.


38 posted on 06/05/2004 7:15:34 AM PDT by Eldorado431
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To: NoExcusesAnymore
A&E is running a Biography show on the horse. It's an amazing story.

I saw that the other night. Really something, huh?

39 posted on 06/05/2004 7:16:50 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (Go Smarty!)
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To: kalama
Smarty was ahead by 20 lenghts in the Preakness when they stopped him from running at 1 3/8 of a mile

I know. I had him picked for the Derby and had my doubts about the Belmont... until I saw the Preakness.

40 posted on 06/05/2004 7:18:45 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (Go Smarty!)
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To: Types_with_Fist

They shoulda named him Rocky!

41 posted on 06/05/2004 7:19:19 AM PDT by lainie
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To: Types_with_Fist

If any of you haven't seen it and are racing fans........go get "Seabiscuit". Terrific story; killer movie. Outstanding.


42 posted on 06/05/2004 7:20:06 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Types_with_Fist
Great Grandaddy Big Red says just do it! (sloppy track conditions or not)


43 posted on 06/05/2004 7:22:32 AM PDT by kalama
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To: nuconvert

"I think he's gonna do it!"

Me too, but then again, I've thought that a few other times ; )

It seems by the time they get to Belmont they are whammied by the publicity. I've got several key fobs memorializing triple crown nearlies!

In any event, hubby and I will be at the race. I'll be pairing Smarty will all the long shots in the daily double. Any other wagers will be determined trackside. If I get a good pay-out I'll be sure to let you all know.

Enjoy the day!


44 posted on 06/05/2004 7:23:56 AM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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LoL. I'm jealous. GooD Luck!


45 posted on 06/05/2004 7:25:19 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: RightOnline
"Seabiscuit"

The similarities between Smarty and the Biscuit are striking: Car salesman owner, troubled jockey, underrated trainer, small horse who had to scrabble his way to the top and overcome injury. Exceptional story on both. I agree, the movie is great... just one year off, unfortunately.

46 posted on 06/05/2004 7:25:41 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (Go Smarty!)
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I didn't know Smarty was a filly! I figured he was more of a fadder than a mudder.


47 posted on 06/05/2004 7:26:19 AM PDT by Andyman
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To: Types_with_Fist
The other 'Big Red,' Man O' War (well see if we need the comparison by the end of the day)


48 posted on 06/05/2004 7:28:07 AM PDT by kalama
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To: jocon307

If he wins, you'd better not cash that ticket!...:-)


49 posted on 06/05/2004 7:28:30 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (Go Smarty!)
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This is my first post on Free Republic...

I love Horse Racing and would like to offer some advice to those that have been drawn in by this Horse...Smarty Jones...

If you are going to the track today and are going to bet on Horse racing for the first time, you have a great betting opportunity. Since there will be a MASSIVE betting pool, the Pick 4 will pay a much larger amount that it would otherwise and you have a clear cut "single" to play in Smarty Jones. If you want to know how to play a Pick 4 (The winner in 4 consecutive races leading to the Belmont Stakes) At your local Race Track they are more than happy to explain how to play it and they might give you some advice as to strategy also.

Enjoy the race today and welcome to our wonderful sport....I hope you stay a while.


50 posted on 06/05/2004 7:29:47 AM PDT by Bushite
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