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Cheney Questioned in CIA Leak Probe
AP via Fox ^ | June 5, 2004

Posted on 06/05/2004 11:50:37 AM PDT by cyncooper

WASHINGTON — Investigators questioned Vice President Dick Cheney (search) recently in the probe of who in the Bush administration leaked the name of a covert CIA operative last year, a source familiar with the investigation said Saturday.

The interview of the vice president follows an acknowledgment by President Bush that he has consulted with a private attorney regarding the probe, indicating that Bush, also, expects to be questioned.

A federal grand jury in recent months has questioned numerous White House and administration officials to learn who revealed the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame (search), wife of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson (search), to the news media.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheney; cialeak; fitzgerald; grandjury; plame; plamegate; terrancejwilkinson; wilson
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To: mewzilla; okie01
We need to know just exactly who sent Wilson to Niger

In the words of George Tenet:

"...There was fragmentary intelligence gathered in late 2001 and early 2002 on the allegations of Saddam's efforts to obtain additional raw uranium from Africa, beyond the 550 metric tons already in Iraq. In an effort to inquire about certain reports involving Niger, CIA's counter-proliferation experts, on their own initiative, asked an individual with ties to the region to make a visit to see what he could learn. He reported back to us that one of the former Nigerien (sic) officials he met stated that he was unaware of any contract being signed between Niger and rogue states for the sale of uranium during his tenure in office. The same former official also said that in June 1999 a businessman approached him and insisted that the former official meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss "expanding commercial relations" between Iraq and Niger. The former official interpreted the overture as an attempt to discuss uranium sales.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/11/tenet.statement/

21 posted on 06/05/2004 1:12:35 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Well, that would "fit", wouldn't it.

Good catch.

We are becoming parsers extraordinaire.

That is one reason I love plain-speakin' Dubya.


22 posted on 06/05/2004 1:22:24 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: mewzilla
We need to know just exactly who sent Wilson to Niger.

Text of CIA Director George Tenet's statement

excerpt:

In an effort to inquire about certain reports involving Niger, CIA's counter-proliferation experts, on their own initiative, asked an individual with ties to the region to make a visit to see what he could learn.

I like George Tenet. I think he knows who sent Wilson.

I hope Wilson's called before this g.j. Wifey, too.

Me, too!

23 posted on 06/05/2004 1:26:50 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
CIA operative Valerie Plame, wife of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson

Mr. and Mrs. Klutz are probably paying Novak a percentage of their take on this non-story.

24 posted on 06/05/2004 1:34:07 PM PDT by hgro
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To: All
And while I have Tenet's statement linked, everybody read this part:

Because this report, in our view, did not resolve whether Iraq was or was not seeking uranium from abroad, it was given a normal and wide distribution, but we did not brief it to the President, Vice-President or other senior Administration officials. We also had to consider that the former Nigerien officials knew that what they were saying would reach the U.S. government and that this might have influenced what they said.

In the fall of 2002, my Deputy and I briefed hundreds of members of Congress on Iraq. We did not brief the uranium acquisition story.

~snip~

In other words, Wilson's "report" was useless and President Bush, VP Cheney, and other WH officials weren't even told about it. Congress wasn't told either.

25 posted on 06/05/2004 1:38:03 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2003_09/Iraquraniumchronology.asp

January 2003:
White House staff members decide to include a reference to Iraqi attempts to procure uranium from Africa in the State of the Union speech. During a discussion about the intelligence on this matter, NSC staff member Robert Joseph insists that information about the uranium procurement attempt be included in the speech, according to later accounts from several U.S. senators investigating the claim.

But Alan Foley, head of the Director of Central Intelligence’s Center for Weapons Intelligence, Nonproliferation, and Arms Control, expresses concern about the intelligence.

Foley eventually agrees to a change that appears in the final draft of the speech. According to Bartlett’s later briefing, Tenet does not review the speech, and Rice and Hadley do not recall the October memorandums or a phone call from Tenet while putting together the State of the Union remarks.


26 posted on 06/05/2004 2:46:05 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom.... not just a job, ... It's An Adventure!!!)
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To: cyncooper; Shermy; Allan
Further, the trip and the non-findings were NOT briefed to President Bush OR VP Cheney.

The Niger story was kindled by a one-two punch:

  1. Wilson's N.Y. Times op-ed.
  2. A Capitol Hill Blue article, now withdrawn (the claim in the article was discredited when CHB revealed that it was the victim of an elaborate hoax).

(1) is well-remembered.

(2) is disappearing into the mists of memory. Nevertheless, this is a very interesting part of the story.

Terrance Wilkinson's story in CHB was a perfect piece of disinformation. Not only did it very successfully fan the fires, but by now it's been nearly forgotten.

What could explain a 20-year journalistic fraud with this as its culmination?

27 posted on 06/05/2004 2:53:20 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Mitchell

I've been pointing that out, too. Especially in wake of the recent CBH Bush bashing articles. That the Wilkinson saga was coordinated with the Wilson NY Times op-ed.

Oh, how I wish that was the direction of this grand jury investigation.


28 posted on 06/05/2004 3:28:20 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper; Shermy
Terrance Wilkinson is an unusual pseudonym. He obtained the alias from the British Name Generator http://rumandmonkey.com/widgets/toys/namegen/10/

Rumour is that he was a Star Trek fan and he entered James Kirk as his real name.

'Capitol Hill Blue' said that Wilkinson started the hoax way back in '82.

The British Name Generator was not on the World Wide Web in 1982! LOL, maybe the con didn't really go back two decades??

29 posted on 06/05/2004 4:24:16 PM PDT by Khan Noonian Singh
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To: cyncooper

interesting ... what are your sources??


30 posted on 06/05/2004 5:03:57 PM PDT by curious311 (It doesn't take a hero to order men into battle. It takes a hero to be one of those men in battle.)
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To: Khan Noonian Singh; Mitchell

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/943260/posts

"...The bottom line is that someone has been running a con on me for 20 some years and I fell for it like a little old lady in a pigeon drop scheme. I've spent the last two hours going through the database of Capitol Hill Blue stories and removing any that were based on information from Wilkinson (or whoever he is). I've also removed his name, quotes and claims from Tuesday's story about the White House and the uranium claims. ..."

That's some con. And why remove the stories? Now there's some material for an espionage book.

BTW, the absurdest part of the story is that he would have met Bush peraonally. So disproveable and unlikely...yet this was a valuable disinfo source...someone thought the spin on this "Niger" story was worthy enough to blow this asset!


31 posted on 06/05/2004 5:24:39 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: cyncooper; Mitchell
That the Wilkinson saga was coordinated with the Wilson NY Times op-ed.

absolutely.

But the sowing of the ground by Wilson took place before the NyTimes editorial. Remember, Wilson said in his NYTimes article: "Those news stories about that unnamed former envoy who went to Niger? That's me."

Question: who planted those stories? None other than Wilson himself. The Independent admits now it was Wilson who anonymously leaked to him in their earlier articles. It probably was Wilson too who leaked to Seymour Hersh - Hersh's New Yorker piece was one of the first disinformation pieces.

You can get the skeleton of the media campaign via the articles I posted on that long thread of mine.

32 posted on 06/05/2004 5:34:40 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Mitchell
What could explain a 20-year journalistic fraud with this as its culmination?

Somebody determined that the Niger disinformation was worth burning the successful 20 year journalistic fraud.

33 posted on 06/05/2004 5:37:32 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Mitchell

"The Niger story was kindled by a one-two punch:
1. Wilson's N.Y. Times op-ed.
2. A Capitol Hill Blue article, now withdrawn (the claim in the article was discredited when CHB revealed that it was the victim of an elaborate hoax). "

I'd add those stories that occurred before the NYTimes editorial, as on that long thread of mine. Those stories were less shy about implying that Bush's State of the Union meant "Niger" and the documents meant the phoney Niger memorandum. When specifically asked, Wilson, for one, makes some pains to say "if" Bush meant Niger.

Also adding fuel to the fire- Rice's lame comments about the memorandum and Tenet's statement about the "sixteen words" - which, read carefully, does not support Wilson's implied point but is a statement about not haveing independent verification of the British intelligence - kind of like saying the Czech intel is "not proven" because some CIA guy wasn't at the Prague meeting too.

Perhaps Tenet was pushed by Bush staffers to save him, not having first carefully analyzed what Wilson actually said, but reacting to the general media interpretation of it.

Now, if someone would ask andrea Mitchell about the documents she has...


34 posted on 06/05/2004 5:44:23 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: cyncooper

As I posted on another Valerie Plame thread today, our super-duper CIA spy gal was apparently 'outed' in 1994, and probably was in no danger in her management job. I think this whole thing is about Joe Wilson's reeeally enjoying the limelight and milking the situation. Just my opinion; counts for nothing to anyone but me.


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/5/9/152348.shtml

In October, New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof reported: "The C.I.A. suspected that [master spy] Aldrich Ames had given Mrs. Wilson's name [along with those of other spies] to the Russians before his espionage arrest in 1994."

At the time, Kristof noted, Wilson's wife was brought home for safety reasons and "was already in transition away from undercover work to management."


35 posted on 06/05/2004 5:52:10 PM PDT by Maria S ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm."George W. Bush 1/20/01)
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To: Khan Noonian Singh; Drammach; Maria S
Joseph Wilson, Niger, Uranium and Bush’s Famous Sixteen Words: Evolution of a Confused Story
36 posted on 06/05/2004 5:54:53 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Thanks for the link: Do you have any research going further back concerning Saddam's nuclear programs?

Seems I recall reading (somewhere) that the nuclear facility bombed by the Israelis was powered by uranium made from Nigerian Yellow Cake..
( i.e., Saddam had previously purchased yellow cake from Niger, why wouldn't he try to tap that source again? )

Secondly, do you have anything on the recent Libyan turnover of their WMD programs.??

Specifically, concerning the Iraqi-Libyan-Egyptian venture into Nuclear Weapons technology? Or the recent possible tie-in to N. Korea and their rail "accident" that may have killed several (Syrian?) (Iraqi?) scientists-technicians..? ( almost forgot about the Syrians )
Libya turned over to the U.S. all information concerning a nuclear weapons lab constructed under a mountain in Libya.. run by Iraqi scientists, and at least partially funded by Egypt..
Libya also turned over all the equipment, at least one head scientist, and "yellow cake" uranium.. (from an un-named source)

The story just becomes more and more confusing, doesn't it?..

And no one's even talking about the Iranians yet..
The U.N. is unsure about how far along they are in developing nuclear technology (for peaceful purposes).

37 posted on 06/05/2004 6:32:13 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom.... not just a job, ... It's An Adventure!!!)
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To: Shermy
I'd add those stories that occurred before the NYTimes editorial, as on that long thread of mine. Those stories were less shy about implying that Bush's State of the Union meant "Niger" and the documents meant the phoney Niger memorandum.

Also before Wilson penned his "It was I, the great and wonderful Joseph Wilson, who went to Niger!" NY Times piece, there were stories in the BBC sourced to an anonymous "CIA official" that gave the story from Wilson's POV and spoke of a "former diplomat" having "proven" the Niger/uranium claim "wrong", and also this "official" falsely claimed the VP had been briefed on this "fact" (which was not a proven fact).

38 posted on 06/05/2004 8:07:38 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Maria S

Thanks for adding that info over here!


39 posted on 06/05/2004 8:09:41 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: curious311

Please see my link at #23 and excerpts there and #25.


40 posted on 06/05/2004 8:14:59 PM PDT by cyncooper
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