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Southerners credit political shift to Reagan
Florida Times-Union ^ | Monday, June 7, 2004 | MATT GALNOR

Posted on 06/07/2004 1:53:42 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Once a Democratic stronghold, Northeast Florida is now, without question, Republican country.

When local politicians and experts discuss that drastic shift over the past 20 years, they point to one familiar face -- that of former President Ronald Reagan, who died Saturday at 93.

"He's the one that started that movement, here and in the whole state," said Bill Taylor, who chaired the state Republican Party from 1974 to '80. "He had the faith, and it was contagious."

Reagan, politicians and observers say, made it acceptable for local officials to be Republicans. The former president's message of keeping money in people's pockets and strengthening the military resonated in the South and in Northeast Florida with Democrats who saw the national party drifting further to the left.

(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: dixielist; realignment; ronaldreagan; south; southernvote
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1 posted on 06/07/2004 1:53:42 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

Just check out Ted Rall's latest blog about Reagan. Its unprintable here but one look at it and y'all will understand why much of the country has turned against the Left.


2 posted on 06/07/2004 2:02:43 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: JohnHuang2; B4Ranch; JackelopeBreeder; Spiff; anon; SJackson; dennisw; Sabertooth; ...

"Reagan, politicians and observers say, made it acceptable for local officials to be Republicans. The former president's message of keeping money in people's pockets and strengthening the military resonated in the South and in Northeast Florida with Democrats who saw the national party drifting further to the left."

Keeping (U.S.) money in (U.S.) pockets?

That would be a laughing stock today in light of the literally BILLIONS of dollars in lost revenue funnelled off to Mexico from migrant workers via U.S. and other money orders each year.

HINT: Go to any local post office on a "Mexican" payday and just observe the cash flowing across the counter - STRAIGHT FROM THE UNITED STATES TO MEXICO.

Money "staying" in the United States in 2004 is a complete, utter political joke. And Mexico is laughing all the way to the bank.

3 posted on 06/07/2004 2:08:27 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: Happy2BMe

$69 Billion a year is what we are paying for the illegals.


4 posted on 06/07/2004 2:12:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Ignore your rights and they'll go away.)
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To: goldstategop
"...the country has turned against the Left."

And why there ain't no turning back.

5 posted on 06/07/2004 2:26:03 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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I grew up, and still live, in Atlanta. In 1980 I was in 7th grade and we had a mock election. There were some 800 kids at the school and the final tally was around 798-2 for Reagan. Granted, this was a phitebrad community but it was still Carter's home state. That was pretty impressive.


7 posted on 06/07/2004 7:01:56 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: JohnHuang2

Believe it or not (and contrary to Confederate and neo-Confederate propaganda), some of us in the South have been Republicans since Lincoln.


8 posted on 06/07/2004 7:53:30 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The eight words all "palaeos" fear most: HaShem shall be King over all the earth!)
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To: *dixie_list; sionnsar; Free Trapper; dcwusmc; Wampus SC; Fiddlstix; Southron Patriot; ...

Southern bump


9 posted on 06/07/2004 7:57:25 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Zionist Conspirator
YEP!

all THREE of you.

free dixie,sw

10 posted on 06/07/2004 8:14:51 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
Yep, three people spread across East Tennessee, West Virginia, western North Carolina, northern Georgia, Jones County Mississippi, Carroll County and Hardin County Tennessee, etc., etc., etc.

You know, even though I've come to realize the error of my ancestors on their rejection of the Biblical legitimacy of slavery (and polygyny and concubinage too, btw), the self-righteousness of you neo-Confederates never fails to disgust me. And regardless of slavery, your Calhouninan "compact theory" is so ludicrous that even Pat Buchanan shot it down in The Great Betrayal.

My post was not aimed at you, but I can tell that you and your brethren will insist on playing "gotcha last!" until I give up in exasperation. Very well. "You win." Now are you satisfied?

You should have gone to the New York Jefferson-Jackson Day dinner to listen to the Ketchup Lady.

Washington, Adams, and Hamilton forever. Jefferson should have gone to the guillotine of the Jacobins he admired so much.

11 posted on 06/07/2004 8:28:35 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The eight words all "palaeos" fear most: HaShem shall be King over all the earth!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
what utter HOGWASH!

free dixie,sw

12 posted on 06/07/2004 8:53:24 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: JohnHuang2

I'm a Reagan fan, but LBJ deserves credit for the South turning Republican.


13 posted on 06/07/2004 9:21:57 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Zionist Conspirator
btw, what in YOUR opinion is a "neo-confederate"????

i've NEVER actually met one.

to my knowledge there are only PALEO-Confederate partisans, scalawags (TURNCOATS & TRAITORS to their native south) & neutrals (mostly newcomers) in the southland.

as for me & my house, we serve the Lord & dixie and have for over 150 YEARS! (that's anything but "neo".)

free dixie,sw

14 posted on 06/07/2004 9:24:51 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: PAR35
In Texas and elsewhere, conservative Democrats elected LBJ. They were horrified at the result, and that is part of what forced them to reconcile their party with their ideology.

I hate LBJ as the big-government author of the War on Poverty, repurcussions of which are still hurting us. On the other hand, I will give LBJ that he forced through the Civil Rights Act. Some of that conservative Democrat horror was that result. Thankfully, the Republican party did not become the anti-Civil Rights party.

15 posted on 06/07/2004 9:31:31 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: PAR35
mr peanut TOO!

free dixie,sw

16 posted on 06/07/2004 9:34:55 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
true, BUT the mainSLIME media blasts us with that anyway.

you'll note that the media doesn't attack the DIMocRATS for having a KKK lifemember in their US Senate delegation- byrd gets a PASS because he's a DIM.

can you imagine what the leftist media wouls say if we were unlucky enough to have him in OUR party????? wouldn't be pretty.

free dixie,sw

17 posted on 06/07/2004 9:37:59 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
to my knowledge there are only PALEO-Confederate partisans, scalawags (TURNCOATS & TRAITORS to their native south) & neutrals (mostly newcomers) in the southland.

There is absolutely no need whatsoever in our arguing. I will change nothing nor profit either one of us (unless you just enjoy childish argument). My ancestors (on all four sides of my family) were Southern Lincoln Republicans. Deal with it.

Good-bye.

18 posted on 06/07/2004 9:40:19 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The eight words all "palaeos" fear most: HaShem shall be King over all the earth!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
i'd sooner have a sister in a bordello, than an ancestor who failed to fight FOR dixie.

i PITY you, though it's not your fault, that your ancestors chose UNwisely.

go do some reading from other than REVISIONIST sources & come back to talk. there is HOPE for you.

free dixie,sw

19 posted on 06/07/2004 9:44:18 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
Sorry to go off on a tangent, from Reagan to LBJ to elite opinion, mainstream press, and party platforms, but what the heck.

Elite opinion will punish Republican on the gay marriage issue. After all, there are conservativish elites and regular people who do honestly see it that way - as a civil rights issue. It's a deep societal issue, not just a rights issue. We have to be Reaganesque and stand our ground. There! I did bring it back to Reagan!

20 posted on 06/07/2004 9:46:47 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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