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Ice Cores Unlock Climate Secrets
BBC ^ | 6-9-2004 | Julianna Kettlewell

Posted on 06/09/2004 3:27:33 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 06/09/2004 3:27:34 PM PDT by blam
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To: RightWhale

Looks like we have about 18,000 years more of good weather, huh?


2 posted on 06/09/2004 3:28:20 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I'd like to see what it shows for those interesting periods of bad, bad weather in that book by Baille.


3 posted on 06/09/2004 3:32:50 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: blam

But...but... but, I thought it was all SUVs' and Bush's fault.


4 posted on 06/09/2004 3:32:59 PM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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To: PA Engineer
Record ice core gives fair forecast

18:00 09 June 04
NewScientist.com news service

As long as humans do not mess it up, the Earth's climate is set at fair for the next 15,000 years. That is according to information extracted from the oldest ice core ever drilled.

The Antarctic core is the first to reach as far back as a warm period with characteristics similar to our own interglacial. So it should help make more accurate predictions about when to expect the next deep freeze.

The ice core, drilled from a feature in central Antarctica called Dome C, is around 3 kilometres long and 10 centimetres wide. Changes in the relative proportions of hydrogen isotopes in the ice layers allow scientists to compile a complete record of Antarctic temperatures going back 740,000 years.

The core shows the waxing and waning of eight ice ages. Most critically for making predictions about our climate, it is the first core to record a period known as Termination V, around 430,000 years ago.

Warming pattern

At this point, the world moved from a glacial period into a long, warm interglacial, similar to this era. The previous longest ice-core record, drilled by the Soviet Union at Vostok in Antarctica between 1980 and 1988, went back only 420,000 years.

"All interglacials are slightly different, but we believe Termination V is the most similar to our own," says chief author of the new study, Eric Wolff, at the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, UK. It mirrors the pattern of solar warming between seasons and at different latitudes that are caused by fluctuations in the Earth's orbit known as the Milankovitch cycles.

It shows that the Termination V interglacial was unusually long, lasting 28,000 years. The current interglacial is now 12,000 years old, and some scientists feared that we might be heading for an ice age soon since at least one post-Termination V interglacial lasted just 10,000 years.

But the new findings suggest that even without the human hand in global warming, a new ice age would be unlikely for perhaps another 15,000 years, Wolff says.

Ice blanket

The core also sheds light on how ice ages have changed over the past million years. Since Termination V, ice ages have been very intense, with periods of cold weather that blanketed much of the northern hemisphere in ice for 80,000 years punctuated by short interglacials lasting typically 20,000 years.

But the new core shows that, prior to Termination V, the cold and warm periods of the glacial cycle each lasted around 50,000 years but were much less intense.

"Marine deposits suggested some of this, but it stands out much more clearly in the ice record," Wolff says.

Meanwhile, European and US scientists are discussing plans to survey for a site in Antarctica that will extend the record still further. "We want to go back at least 1.2 million years next time," Wolff says. "But we have to find somewhere that we can do it."

Journal reference: Nature (vol 429, p 623)

Fred Pearce

5 posted on 06/09/2004 3:33:05 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Yup, but like they say....it's not the heat-it's the humidity.


6 posted on 06/09/2004 3:33:54 PM PDT by ninonitti
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To: aruanan
"I'd like to see what it shows for those interesting periods of bad, bad weather in that book by Baille."

Some of the Ice Cores support his ideas...some don't.

7 posted on 06/09/2004 3:34:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The problem with the next Ice Age won't be the cold. It will be that the potable water will be locked up in the ice. We will have to mine the ice for water and pipe it to the farms and cities. In a way it will be like what they used to imagine on Mars.


8 posted on 06/09/2004 3:35:58 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: blam
The Epica team has noticed the interglacial period of 400,000 years ago closely matches our own - because the shape of the Earth's orbit was the same then as it is now.

Can we expect an apology from the envirowackos of Kyoto? Maybe just a little "Oops" from Algore?

9 posted on 06/09/2004 3:39:06 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: blam

I would think that a record of southern hemisphere volcanic activity might be enclosed in that ice, too.


10 posted on 06/09/2004 3:41:44 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: blam

As to the duration of the current warm spell, they'll have to explain a little more about what they think causes warm spells and why this one looks similar to the one 400,000 years ago. If they just wave their arms at the data they aren't doing much more than the TV weatherman.


11 posted on 06/09/2004 3:49:49 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: farmfriend

ping


12 posted on 06/09/2004 3:55:23 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: ValerieUSA

I would think that a record of southern hemisphere volcanic activity might be enclosed in that ice, too.

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was it Krakatoa that went off in indonesia about 75,000 years ago--and is reputed to coincide with a period in which the human gene pool was generally slimmed down?

the article mentions another ice core that went back 420,000 years so Krakatoa should have showed up there. likely there are others--because krakatoa time frame is not that great.

in any case the info on krakatoa should already be in ice cores previously drilled.


13 posted on 06/09/2004 3:56:00 PM PDT by ckilmer
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But...but... but, I thought it was all SUVs' and Bush's fault.

It was. Bush, Cheney and Halliburton all went back in a time machine and over a period of 150 million years, they committed genocide against the dinosaurs (impacting minorities and women, mostly), finally killing them all off about 60-65 million years ago so they would have oil in the ground to start wars over.

14 posted on 06/09/2004 3:56:47 PM PDT by xrp
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To: ckilmer

Krakatoa was fairly recent. Was heard in London or something.


15 posted on 06/09/2004 3:58:27 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: RightWhale

Buy SUV's and stop the next ice age!


16 posted on 06/09/2004 3:59:19 PM PDT by chiller (LIBERALISM WILL KILL US)
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To: ckilmer

No, that was the Toba volcano.


17 posted on 06/09/2004 4:00:13 PM PDT by xrp
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To: xrp

Did we steal the oil from the dinosaurs in the first war for oil?


18 posted on 06/09/2004 4:01:49 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: blam
Tiny bubbles of ancient air are locked in the ice

As compared with the air outside that was manufactured, what, last year?

19 posted on 06/09/2004 4:03:21 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: RightWhale
Total Recall

FMCDH(BITS)

20 posted on 06/09/2004 4:05:51 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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