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Minister wants seal hunt to lure tourists (Come to Norway and club a baby seal)
Aftenposten ^ | Thursday June 10 2004 | Nina Berglund

Posted on 06/10/2004 3:25:57 AM PDT by Eurotwit

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To: farmfriend

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21 posted on 06/10/2004 4:13:58 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Eurotwit

Yeah I need to give my arm another workout other than lifting beer to my lips. Clubbing seals is just the thing.


22 posted on 06/10/2004 4:14:19 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: .45MAN
I heard their a barbarians in the world that eat these animals.


23 posted on 06/10/2004 4:17:32 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: .45MAN
Here is a girl with a Norwegian heritage who speaks her mind


24 posted on 06/10/2004 4:42:12 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: .45MAN

So what's wrong with clubbing seals?
By Boris Johnson
(Filed: 15/04/2004)


I don't know who handles the PR for these Canadian seal-clubbers, but it must be a hell of a job. Can there be any group, on the entire planet, that so excites the hatred of the British public? Not the Korean dog-eaters, nor the Italian butterfly-shooters, nor the Spanish goat-headyankers no, not even the French, who, as we all know, eat our childrens ponies no one can match the Canadian fisherman for provoking the Briton to tears of rage; and one can see why.

Here is a fellow who rises and puts on his great big waterproof boots and his great big waterproof hat. Then he picks up a horrible knobkerrie, studded with nails, gives his wife a loving kiss, and strides on to ice floes where he sets about him with a terrible Hutu-style slaughter. Bonk bash bonk he goes, like some demented axeman, and nothing will stop him. The telephoto lenses of the RSPCA cameras whirr and click.

Above him hover the helicopters chartered by the BBC, while live pictures of the horror are beamed into every living-room in this country. Does he care?

Does he hell. And it is not just any old beast that he brains, but a mammal, a creature like us that suckles its young; and it is a large, defenceless mammal, with both eyes in the front of its head, in that cute anthropomorphic way. It is a furry mammal, with a bark as winsome as any leal and faithful labrador.

One after another, biff thunk clunk, the Canadians are now beating these trusting little critters to death, thousands of them a day, until the snow runs red in that awful way we saw on the front of yesterdays Independent newspaper.

Is there anyone who could possibly attempt to justify this kind of barbarity? Will anyone stand up for the seal cull? Well, ahem, at the risk of terminally alienating and offending animal-lovers across the country, it is the duty of this column which ever puts logic above popularity to have a go.

Of course, it must be a dreadful way to go, if you are a seal; and no one could seriously doubt that the method of killing is peculiarly brutal. But I put it to you none the less that the Canadian fisherman has as much right to go out clubbing as the average British 18-year-old.

It was a good thing that there was an outcry in the early 1980s; and it was a good thing that there was a consequent European Union-wide ban on seal fur products. But that was when the cull had so reduced the populations of harp and hooded seals that they were at real risk. That was when they killed the little white baby seals as well, which particularly outraged our sentimental feelings. The truth today is that there are now about six million of these seals, and they are not spending all the time lolling defencelessly on the ice. They are very efficient eaters of fish.

They eat 1.5 tonnes of fish a year each, and given that there are only 50,000 tonnes of cod left off Newfoundland and Labrador, you can see that the ecosystem is badly out of whack.

It is true that the waters have been crazily overfished by the Canadians themselves; but there seems to be good evidence that the voracity of the seals has created a predator trap, by which the fish find it impossible to breed faster than the seals can eat them. You could find what looks like a more humane way of bumping off the seals, such as shooting them. The trouble is that this method is barely more humane than clubbing, and the gunshot lead is expensive and not environmentally friendly.

And surely it makes sense, given how poor these fishermen are, to prevent the pelts from being torn apart by bullets. You may feel affronted by the scale of the slaughter; but I can't really see a moral difference between authorising the killing of 10,000 seals and 350,000.

If it is really numbers of dead animals that shock you, let me remind you that every year we herd 1.5 million cows and 12.5 million sheep into the dark bellowing terror of dung-encrusted abattoirs, blap them with a bolt in the brain and then slit their throats. We don't have Canadian camera crews hovering above our meat processing plants.

And if it is not numbers that concern you, but the principle of taking life, then let me remind you that 200,000 embryos are aborted every year in this country; and if you think that is irrelevant, let me remind you that, every year, in the Peoples Republic of China, 20,000 sentient adult human beings are killed by the state. Isn't that, on the face of it, a more natural subject for an Independent campaign?

I tell you why the seal cull speaks so powerfully to us. It's telly, innit? It's the shocking undisguisable picture of the lone killer on the ice floe, the graphic impact of the red on the white.

The seal cull provides a uniquely powerful image of what is in fact an everyday event: the violence of man against animals, and the slaughter of animals by man. It is the sheer conspicuousness of that killing that prompts, in our breasts, our exaggerated response: which I might compare, finally, with the agonies now being endured by those of us who supported the war in Iraq.

It looks like an utter disaster, if you rely solely on the television images, and you study the small-scale newspaper maps, with their pictograms of conflagration in every city. This week in The Spectator, we have a brilliant piece by Andrew Gilligan in Baghdad, full of despair at the dilemmas of the coalition troops.

Maybe I am a congenital optimist, but I can't help wondering whether that is all there is to it, and whether those polls which found so many Iraqis convinced that their lives had improved were not also true. Television images of violence can create alarm. They can create outrage. But they are not always the whole story.

Boris Johnson is MP for Henley and editor of The Spectator


25 posted on 06/10/2004 4:49:25 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

I'd rather club a liberal Euroweenie.


26 posted on 06/10/2004 4:52:52 AM PDT by ZULU (They weree)
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To: Eurotwit
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27 posted on 06/10/2004 4:59:58 AM PDT by wolficatZ (_><))))*>__( D-DAY - 6th of June +60 +4 ***Oradour-sur-Glane***)
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To: wmichgrad

"This could be a big hit,"

No pun intended!


28 posted on 06/10/2004 5:11:26 AM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: Eurotwit

Memo to Svein: Mention the nail at the end of the club. You'll get a better response.


29 posted on 06/10/2004 5:41:32 AM PDT by leadpencil1 (Kerry reminds me of a technicolor yawn)
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To: CSM

New USA tourist attraction:

Come to America and club our stray dogs.


30 posted on 06/10/2004 6:09:23 AM PDT by wmichgrad
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To: Eurotwit

Cool. I want a baby seal skin to hang on my wall, not to mention some seal skin gloves.


31 posted on 06/10/2004 6:13:53 AM PDT by Chewbacca (There is a place in this world for all of God's creatures.....right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: Eurotwit

I always like to go out clubbing when I'm on vacation.


32 posted on 06/10/2004 6:18:58 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Eurotwit
That looks more like her chest talking than her mind.

Not that I'm mind :-)

33 posted on 06/10/2004 7:00:40 AM PDT by T'wit (Of course she's a witch. She can make lamps and ashtrays fly through the air, can't she?)
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To: T'wit

Hasty editing! -- "not that I mind"


34 posted on 06/10/2004 7:01:36 AM PDT by T'wit (Of course she's a witch. She can make lamps and ashtrays fly through the air, can't she?)
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To: muawiyah

That's because you are not an "aborigine".

I doubt if you are either. You miss the point of my post as well as the article. It's about tourism. My post was about tourism. Your knee-jerk response was about how right it is about aborigines to club seals. Different topic. I typed s l o w l y so you might understand that you should know what you're typing about before you start.

p.s. lay off the vodka - it kills brain cells


35 posted on 06/10/2004 2:16:28 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: wmichgrad

What's next, come to San Fran and help an aborticutionists do a partial birth infanticide?


36 posted on 06/10/2004 2:21:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: BipolarBob

Tourists eat too.


37 posted on 06/10/2004 2:39:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: T'wit
If only we a hunting season on liberals, the proceeds would be enough to repair our infrastructure, restore constitutional government and pay off the national debt.

SHHH!

That executive order won't be signed until after the election.

Unfortunately, there is no use whatsoever for liberal harvesting. Actually, it's a negative value because they are toxic and -- like radioactive waste -- must be disposed of in a way that doesn't endanger future generations.

You must have missed that thread yesterday which discussed a new process of turning offal into light crude.

38 posted on 06/10/2004 3:09:16 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: Freebird Forever
> a new process of turning offal into light crude.

I am wholly impressed! I thought all you could harvest from them was sulphur dioxide.

39 posted on 06/10/2004 5:13:37 PM PDT by T'wit (Of course she's a witch. She can make lamps and ashtrays fly through the air, can't she?)
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To: Eurotwit
Perhaps he’s envisioning something along these lines?


40 posted on 06/10/2004 5:28:21 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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