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Historians rank Reagan #8 among presidents
Wall Street Journal ^
| November 16, 2000
Posted on 06/10/2004 8:55:07 AM PDT by Cableguy
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To: Servant of the 9
Placing Impeached Bill Clinton above Nixon who resigned for the good of the Office and Country is a disgrace.
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:19:44 AM PDT
by
1smallVoice
(Clinton brought us Bush)
To: oceanview
Ditto that. If Washington wanted he could have become a dictator and no one in all of history would have batted an eye. His humility and toughness and commitment to republican government will keep all Americans always in his debt.
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:19:48 AM PDT
by
Tennessean4Bush
(An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
To: Cableguy
My list.
Great
1 Washington
2 Jefferson
3 Reagan
4 Lincoln
Near Great
5 Roosevelt F
6 Eisenhower
8 Nixon
9 Madison
10 Monroe
11 Roosevelt T
12 Bush GHW
13 Truman
14 Wilson
15 Jackson
Average
15-41 Take your pick
Failure
42 Carter
Utter Failure and disgrace
43 Clinton
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:20:07 AM PDT
by
Militiaman7
(Fear not tomorrow, God is already there.)
To: Cableguy
How 78 scholars in history, political science, and law rated the men from Washington to Clinton. 78 people with political opinions - Completely meaningless.
I could make up my own rankings and it would have just as much significance
To: Maceman
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:20:28 AM PDT
by
Undertow
("I have found some kind of temporary sanity...")
To: r9etb
I think in terms of 9-11, and foreign matters in general, Clinton's legacy is already becoming clear, and he's headed to the failure column. In terms of domestic policy he was at best "average," and (because he was largely ineffective) probably closer to failure. I see real parallels between Buchanan and Clinton. Both were weak men, ill-suited to the Presidency. Buchanan had opportunities to address sectional divisions in the country, but did nothing. Maybe he could not have prevented the coming war, but he did not contribute to a solution in any way. Just so, Clinton had many opportunities to address Terrorism, but he did not. The War started after these Presidents had left office, but each war had become inevitable during their administrations.
Buchanan and Clinton were clear failures. Everyone else needs to be ranked somewhere above them.
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:20:46 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
To: Dustbunny
No way Johnson was above average.Way above average in damage done to the Country.
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:20:54 AM PDT
by
Protagoras
(government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." ...Ronald Reagan, 1981)
To: Tennessean4Bush
Jefferson was arguably the most brilliant man to serve as president, but his presidency was not nearly in the same class. Part of this unfortunate result was due to the political side effects of the almost laughably screwy election of 1800 (the Florida fiasco in 2000 had nothing on 1800), which poisoned the political waters for at least his first term.
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:21:43 AM PDT
by
SAJ
(Buy 2 NGG05 9.00 calls, Sell 5 NGG05 12.00 calls against, for $1.000 net credit OB. Mortal lock.)
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:21:47 AM PDT
by
Undertow
("I have found some kind of temporary sanity...")
To: Semper Paratus; bigeasy_70118
And what the hell is Woodrow Wilson doing so high? With liberal historians intentions are what counts.
I recall a newspaper article article where the writer considered 20th century Presidenmts in terms of how they mastered the Presidency. Did they fulfil the role as they saw it, and did they leave the legacy they wanted?
On thar basis the greats were Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Ronald Reagan.
The others I remember were Eisenhower as Near Great, and Woodrow Wilson as Failure.
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:21:49 AM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
To: ken5050
Here in the south, students think Polk is an edible weed used in a dish called Poke Sallet.
Up north, students think Polk is short for a Polka, a dance for the way not cool.
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:22:05 AM PDT
by
F.J. Mitchell
(So the Dems actually loved Reagan, huh? et tu, Bru-te ?)
To: bigeasy_70118
how did FDR get so high???
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:22:49 AM PDT
by
Coroner
To: Cableguy
New category: INFAMOUS.
For FDR.
To: Cableguy
Kennedy is overrated. I can't think of any major legislation passed during his administration. Everything that is attributed to him was enacted during LBJ's term.
Nixon and "Silent Cal" should be, in my opinion, higher.
Clinton and Carter are complete fiascos.
To: Cableguy
John Adams should be way up higher. He did a hell of a lot more for the US than Jefferson, although Adams wasn`t President at he time.. Jefferson sat on his azz while Adams was touring the globe looking for help against the British, almost died from malaria, led the push for independence plus he was vehemently opposed to slavery while Jefferson owned hundreds (ask George Jefferson)but I guess they are just judging them by what they did while in office. Bill Clinton shouldn`t even be on that list, that dude is probably in the bottom 3.
To: Cableguy
I agree with most of the survey. FDR, Truman and LBJ are a bit overrated - I would drop each down a category. Woodrow Wilson was average - at best. Also, John Adams should probably move up to the 'Near Great' category, but Washington was a tough act to follow.
Thankfully, the survey doesn't deify JFK, in my view one of the worst presidents in history. As long as I live, I will never understand the idolatrous veneration of JFK and the rest of the Kennedy cabal by the fellow travelers of the left.
To: Cableguy
"Remember, this is a survey of historians, many of whom are liberal." But remember that liberals as we now know them didn't come into being until LBJ. Compared to LBJ and all liberals since, the prior Presidents would have been considered Conservatives...including JFK.
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:25:26 AM PDT
by
Positive
To: AmishDude
I think Wilson is over-rated.
His wife was acting president after his stroke, and he was nothing short of lying in running "He kept us out of war", while declaring it just after he was inaugarated.
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:25:27 AM PDT
by
glorgau
To: Maceman
Silent Cal BTTT. Definitely deserves top 10 ranking
Wilson #11 ???????????? He was an abject failure.
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:25:41 AM PDT
by
MattinNJ
(America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.)
To: 2banana
William Clinton = average? The average president gets impeached? Exactly.
But, give it about 20 years. History has a way of getting to the real truth.
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posted on
06/10/2004 9:25:58 AM PDT
by
SkyPilot
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