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N. Korea:Syrians Present At the Ryongchon Explosion Site(new details:bio/chem-tipped missiles)
Futurekorea ^ | 06/10/04 | Kim bom-su

Posted on 06/10/2004 9:56:05 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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N. Korea: Syrians Present At the Ryongchon Explosion Site (new details:bio/chem-tipped missiles)

Dead Syrians sent home about a week after the accident.

While the train explosion at Ryongchon station, N. Pyongan Province, N. Korea, on 22nd of last April, still generates many speculations on its possible causes, including a failed assassination of Kim Jong-il, a freak accident, a staged accident by N. Koreans, it is now confirmed that there were many Syrians among the casualties of the explosion.

According to a knowledgeable intelligence source on N. Korean matters, about a week after the accident, on May 1st, a plane transported back to Syria 10 dead bodies of Syrians killed at the Ryongchon explosion.

The source stated that the plane came to bring the relief supply from Syria and returned with the bodies. The bodies were claimed by Syrian Technical Research Center(Centre d'Etudes et de Recherche Scientific: CERS). CERS is known to be into the development of Syrian WMD's.

It went on to say that Syrians were wearing protective suits at the time of the accident and in the middle of transporting a large packaged equipments. At the explosion, a lot of N. Korean Scud-D missiles and (rocket) propellant went off.

Another N. Korean expert, who wants to remain anonymous, explained that Syrians were there because:

As more details like these on N. Korean trafficking of WMD's emerge, what this revelation will lead to is a matter of great interest because American government is expected to take extraordinary measures on N. Korea in a few months.

The Syrian connection to Ryongchon explosion was briefly reported by Sankei Shimbun of Japan on May 7th. It was never covered in (major) domestic media, though. Syria is designated along with N. Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism, and has been a trafficker of world's WMD's and terrorist equipments.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: america; axisofevil; biochemwarhead; dprk; evil; explosion; missile; nkorea; nktrainwreck; northkorea; propellant; religionofpeace; ryongchon; scudd; syria; wmd; wot
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If this report is true, the reason Syrians were in N. Korea seems to be about getting bio/chem warheads, not powerful rocket propellants nor special cehmicals for really powerful explosives.

However, this new report does not clarify whether this was just an accident or the assassination attempt or the sabotage of missile cargos.

I guess that neither assassination theory nor the sabotage could be ruled out at this time.

1 posted on 06/10/2004 9:56:11 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; gandalftb; Boot Hill; eastforker; nuconvert

Ping!


2 posted on 06/10/2004 9:57:18 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It couldn't have happened to a nicer group of people.


3 posted on 06/10/2004 9:59:41 AM PDT by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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To: ASA Vet

Ping!


4 posted on 06/10/2004 10:01:09 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

You have to wonder if the CIA maybe had a hand in the explosion.


5 posted on 06/10/2004 10:03:38 AM PDT by jern
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To: TigerLikesRooster

VERY Interesting!

To me it rules out the assassination attempt. But, it rules "in" the possiblity that Iran knew (knows) what happened.
Iran and Syria are very close, and cooperating on weapons projects with N. Korea.
Sounds like an accident of some sort, though.


6 posted on 06/10/2004 10:04:17 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: F14 Pilot; AdmSmith

PonG


7 posted on 06/10/2004 10:05:54 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
It was never covered in (major) domestic media, though.

Well, we were distracted by the earth-shaking news that a few guys in Iraq were forced to wear womens underwear on their head for a couple hours one day a year ago. We have no time for this silly business about the North Koreans trading WMD to Syria.

8 posted on 06/10/2004 10:07:03 AM PDT by johnfrink
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Was this train headed into N. Korea or out?


9 posted on 06/10/2004 10:09:40 AM PDT by Zhangliqun
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To: TigerLikesRooster

gee and who was it that was selling nuclear secrets to what, North Korea, Iran and Syria? ... oh yeah, Dr. Khan ... (I think that list of countries is correct, if not somebody please post)


10 posted on 06/10/2004 10:10:03 AM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Zhangliqun
Was this train headed into N. Korea or out?

Neither, was heading toward a port.

11 posted on 06/10/2004 10:11:19 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: TigerLikesRooster

With all our carrier groups going to sea I believe there is much going on behind the scenes.Debka reported that the US gave Syria a very stern warning this week, not reported in the MSM. GPS systems on our east coast will not be working next week. Multi national troops will be training in NC next week. Many signs pointing to something big about to happen.And let's not forget pulling our troops off the DMZ,being replaced by ROK's.


12 posted on 06/10/2004 10:12:59 AM PDT by eastforker (All those in favor of abortion have already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: nuconvert
Sounds like an accident of some sort, though.


13 posted on 06/10/2004 10:13:02 AM PDT by ASA Vet (The "FreeRepublic French" would rather our grandchildren decide which culture is to survive.)
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To: jern

that would give us reason to cheer for a change. when the people talk about our intellegence agencies, too much happens in secret for the unwashed (that's me)to KNOW the truth to be certain they are effective.


14 posted on 06/10/2004 10:13:17 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Which explains why the craven dems are no longer screaming that we ought to have gone to war with North Korea.

They know the situation there is becoming dire and will need action.

Pray for our military and our president.

15 posted on 06/10/2004 10:14:01 AM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: johnfrink

I doubt very serously that these missiles were actually going to a end-customer in Syria. The real customer would likely have been Iran, and these missiles would have flipped through various ports before arriving in Tehran. Syria doesn't have a need for items like this and would be wasting their money. This was a money-laundering deal where the Syrians would be the middle-men.


16 posted on 06/10/2004 10:16:02 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: johnfrink

I doubt very serously that these missiles were actually going to a end-customer in Syria. The real customer would likely have been Iran, and these missiles would have flipped through various ports before arriving in Tehran. Syria doesn't have a need for items like this and would be wasting their money. This was a money-laundering deal where the Syrians would be the middle-men.


17 posted on 06/10/2004 10:16:09 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
Well, it could have been a joint venture by Syria and Iran. The main load of missile go to Iran, and another batch for Syria. The two nations don't have much to dispute about, except their influence over terrorist movements in Lebanon and elsewhere.
18 posted on 06/10/2004 10:18:59 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Of course we'll proably never know, but I hope the CIA had a hand in this "accident".

IF they did: BRAVO ZULU! Keep up the good work!


19 posted on 06/10/2004 10:19:48 AM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: pepsionice

What I wonder about is how they were going to make the trip from NK to Syria. Presumably via ship, but possibly by air? I hope to god we're watching every freaking thing that makes the trip from NK to Syria or from Syria to NK.


20 posted on 06/10/2004 10:22:02 AM PDT by johnfrink
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I guess we should be glad that this NK town got flattened then. Kudos to SOC or whoever did it.


21 posted on 06/10/2004 10:23:11 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

I didn't hear jack about North Korea train disaster they kinda cover up

Syrians at train site accident

WHOA

That first time I hear it


22 posted on 06/10/2004 10:28:23 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: eastforker
GPS systems on our east coast will not be working next week

I hadn't heard about this. Are they being deactivated, taken down for maintenance, sunspots,...?
23 posted on 06/10/2004 10:31:01 AM PDT by babyface00
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To: TigerLikesRooster; StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...


24 posted on 06/10/2004 10:31:05 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: TigerLikesRooster
...knowledgeable intelligence source on N. Korean matters

Yeah, whatever. Not a shred of evidence to back up any of this. Taken with a pinch of salt about the size of Alaska.

25 posted on 06/10/2004 10:36:03 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: jern; All

I got question for all North Korea Freepers watcher

Where is Kim Jong 11
Where is that Reject China Com dude

I haven't hear jack about him since explosion

Where is that dude been hiding

Is he hiding at Live Journal.com community


26 posted on 06/10/2004 10:36:27 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: babyface00

The article stated it was about cooperating with military training.


27 posted on 06/10/2004 10:38:16 AM PDT by eastforker (All those in favor of abortion have already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: jern
"... the CIA maybe had a hand in the explosion."

Same thoughts here after reading about the chem/bio warheads. Of course it still could be a providential accident too.
28 posted on 06/10/2004 10:39:04 AM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: pepsionice
I doubt very serously that these missiles were actually going to a end-customer in Syria.... Syria doesn't have a need for items like this and would be wasting their money.

You make a lot of unspoken assumptions when you define what Syria "needs." I can think of a number of reasons why Bashar Assad "needs" weapons like this, up to and including it being a "dick thing."

But of course, the real reason Syria "needs" such weapons is, of course, Israel (as usual).

29 posted on 06/10/2004 10:39:07 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: eastforker

Thanks.


30 posted on 06/10/2004 10:40:09 AM PDT by babyface00
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To: maquiladora

Well there is evidence that something blowed up real good, haven't you seen the pictures or have you not been following this story?


31 posted on 06/10/2004 10:40:16 AM PDT by eastforker (All those in favor of abortion have already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: eastforker
GPS systems on our east coast will not be working next week.

Highly unlikely.

32 posted on 06/10/2004 10:40:23 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: TigerLikesRooster

While the train explosion at Ryongchon station, N. Pyongan Province, N. Korea, on 22nd of last April, still generates many speculations on its possible causes, including a failed assassination of Kim Jong-il, a freak accident, a staged accident by N. Koreans

...maybe a planned operation by somebody's special operations team ?


33 posted on 06/10/2004 10:42:16 AM PDT by sawmill trash (NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!!)
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To: r9etb

Was official warning to boaters not to rely on GPS or cell phones, should only rely on VHF, off the carolina and florida coast.


34 posted on 06/10/2004 10:43:02 AM PDT by eastforker (All those in favor of abortion have already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: SevenofNine
Where is Kim Jong 11 Where is that Reject China Com dude

Kim was photographed meeting with the Japanese p.m. a few weeks after the train explosion, so he is alive and well, sadly.

35 posted on 06/10/2004 10:43:12 AM PDT by johnfrink
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To: babyface00
I hadn't heard about this. Are they being deactivated, taken down for maintenance, sunspots,...?

If it were really going to happen, it would would be for the G-8 summit. However, GPS has far too many civil uses (e.g., cell phones, FAA applications, and the stock market all use GPS-derived time). They're not going to take it down.

36 posted on 06/10/2004 10:44:24 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: babyface00

There's a joint exercise with some Russians & their military equipment on our terra firma down in the North Carolina shoreline area...and we have 10 carriers now out at sea though the media is only reporting 7.


37 posted on 06/10/2004 10:44:55 AM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: OXENinFLA
It went on to say that Syrians were wearing protective suits at the time of the accident and in the middle of transporting a large packaged equipments.

Protective suits huh??

38 posted on 06/10/2004 10:45:27 AM PDT by Mo1 (That's right Old Media .... WE LOVED PRESIDENT REAGAN)
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To: eastforker

That would be local jamming-type stuff, then. They wouldn't be messing with the satellites.


39 posted on 06/10/2004 10:45:38 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: johnfrink; All

OH OKAY Never minddd

I wonder what happen to that dude I know he been hanging out at Live Journal.com community he tick off everybody over there LOL!


40 posted on 06/10/2004 10:46:05 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This was reported here on FR a few weeks ago. The train collision occured in a warehouse at the end of a spur.


41 posted on 06/10/2004 10:46:12 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: r9etb

Guess I gotta go find it for you.BRB


42 posted on 06/10/2004 10:46:20 AM PDT by eastforker (All those in favor of abortion have already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: jern

I would sure like to think the CIA had the capability to do such a job.

But I don't.

Maybe the Israelis?


43 posted on 06/10/2004 10:49:02 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: q_an_a

that would give us reason to cheer for a change. when the people talk about our intellegence agencies, too much happens in secret for the unwashed (that's me)to KNOW the truth to be certain they are effective

I'm not a betting man...but if I was, I'd bet that our intelligence agencies are VERY effective.


44 posted on 06/10/2004 10:49:31 AM PDT by sawmill trash (NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!!)
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To: IYAAYAS

IF they did: BRAVO ZULU! Keep up the good work!



ditto


45 posted on 06/10/2004 10:51:42 AM PDT by sawmill trash (NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Here are good pictures http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/ryongchon-imagery.htm from the area


46 posted on 06/10/2004 10:52:47 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: eastforker
Here is the notice in question:

INTERFERENCE OF GPS NAVIGATIONAL SIGNAL CHERRY POINT, NC

The GPS Navigational Signal may be unreliable or unavailable due to interference testing on the frequencies of M1575 and M1227 used in shipboard navigation and handheld systems. GPS may be affected within a 150 NM radius of position 34-54.01N 076-52.5W at sea level. This area included the Intracoastal Waterways in North Carolina, including Albemarle Sound, Pamlico Sound, and Coastal North Carolina from Currituck Beach Light to Cape Lookout.

Interference Testing will be conducted on the following dates:

11 June 2004
13 June 2004
14 June 2004
17 June 2004
18 June 2004
19 June 2004
20 June 2004

More information is available at the Coast Guard Navigation Center Web-Site www.navcen.uscg.gov and the Navigation Center Mirror Site www.navcenter.org. GPS users are encouraged to report any service outages that they may be experiencing during this testing via the Navigation Information Service (NIS) by calling (703) 313-5900 or by using the NAVCEN’s web-site’s GPS ‘Report a Problem Worksheet”.

This link gives more information, including times. This link shows the affected area.

This isn't a "GPS thing," it's a local disruption due to other stuff.

47 posted on 06/10/2004 10:55:23 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: eastforker

No need -- I found it for you. They're not "taking down GPS."


48 posted on 06/10/2004 10:56:06 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: sawmill trash
I surely wish I could agree. But if they were that effective we would have Osama, we would have located the WMDs that I do not doubt Saddam had, and we would have had some idea 9-11 was coming. Maybe they have gotten a lot better in the last three years, but again, I see no evidence of that.

Mind you, I know that a covert service should not leave any visible evidence of their activities. But there should be results stemming from intelligence coups, such as our victory at Midway arising from our breaking of the Japanese Naval Code.

Once again, I WANT to agree with you, so please try to convince me I am too skeptical.
49 posted on 06/10/2004 11:09:42 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"... what this revelation will lead to is a matter of great interest because American government is expected to take extraordinary measures on N. Korea in a few months"

This may be the most interesting/new part of this article.

50 posted on 06/10/2004 11:12:21 AM PDT by blam
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