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Lesbian couple wants San Diego country club to treat them as spouses
Sacbee News ^ | June 6, 2004 | MICHELLE MORGANTE

Posted on 06/10/2004 11:04:08 AM PDT by NYer

Edited on 06/10/2004 12:20:12 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

SAN DIEGO (AP) - Late in the day, when most others have cleared the course of rolling hills and serene lakes, B. Birgit Koebke, golfs alone at her country club. If a group happens to be ahead of her, they no longer allow her to play through.

"I just sit there and wait," she says. "They've made it impossible for me to enjoy the club."

Koebke, a 47-year-old television sales executive, is a longtime member of the Bernardo Heights Country Club. She is also lesbian, and her extended drive to win club golfing privileges for her partner of 12 years, Kendall French, has left few members willing to play with her.

Koebke hopes the California Supreme Court will hear her argument that the state's civil rights laws should require the club to give French, her state-registered domestic partner, the same benefits given to spouses.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
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1 posted on 06/10/2004 11:04:09 AM PDT by NYer
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To: little jeremiah; scripter

Ping!


2 posted on 06/10/2004 11:05:04 AM PDT by NYer (I would not believe the Gospel unless moved thereto by the Church. "- St. Augustine of Hippo)
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To: NYer
Lesbian couple wants San Diego country club to treat them as spouses

That's nothing. My husband and I want the rest of the world to treat us as emperor and empress of the universe. And I'd like a pony, too.

3 posted on 06/10/2004 11:07:58 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: NYer

A protest-happy lesbian who plays golf. What a stereotype-buster.


4 posted on 06/10/2004 11:07:58 AM PDT by ICX (FR's resident dumb puppy with big teeth)
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There is something inherently wrong when people must be forced to accept you.
These radical homosexuals seem to use tactics employed by subversive, communist/nazi groups.
5 posted on 06/10/2004 11:08:28 AM PDT by jla
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To: mountaineer

Want want want want want.

So much for being spiritual and not materialistic.


6 posted on 06/10/2004 11:10:51 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: NYer

If she doesn't like normal people, then she can go find a perverts' golf club, where she can do whatever she pleases in PRIVATE.


7 posted on 06/10/2004 11:11:28 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Yitgadal v'yitgadash Shmei Raba)
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To: saveliberty
You do realize my comment was tongue-in-cheek, I trust.
8 posted on 06/10/2004 11:13:21 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: ICX


Participation is both paid and voluntary. Rules clearly written out. Private to boot. But I am sure she will eventually find a court that will enforce the perversion.


9 posted on 06/10/2004 11:13:26 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: NYer

".... has left few members willing to play with her (Kendall French).

Too many potential responses one could place here!


10 posted on 06/10/2004 11:14:18 AM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: thoughtomator

Surely there are enough golf-playing homosexuals in southern California to buy their own golf course where no one denies them anything, no one makes slurs, no one is ever unhappy and everyone shoots under par every day.


11 posted on 06/10/2004 11:15:41 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: thoughtomator
...she can go find a perverts' golf club...

...Throbbing Mounds Golf and Tennis Club

12 posted on 06/10/2004 11:15:52 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Retrosexual Vietnam veteran against John Kerry, proud to be a "crook" and a "liar.")
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To: jla
She is also lesbian, and her extended drive to win club golfing privileges for her partner of 12 years, Kendall French, has left few members willing to play with her.

She sounds like the spoiled brat in the sandbox, wondering why she doesn't have any friends.

13 posted on 06/10/2004 11:16:25 AM PDT by Serb5150 (God Bless Ronald Reagan.)
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To: mountaineer

Oh jes! :)


14 posted on 06/10/2004 11:17:33 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: NYer
"They've made it impossible for me to enjoy the club."

Honey, you reap what you sow.

15 posted on 06/10/2004 11:18:39 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: mountaineer
...want the rest of the world to treat us as emperor and empress of the universe. And I'd like a pony, too.

LOL! Excellent timing on the pony comment, actually.

16 posted on 06/10/2004 11:19:51 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: saveliberty

;^)


17 posted on 06/10/2004 11:20:11 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: NYer

I'm not sure what she is basing her case on. Plus, it seems like this is a private club that can set its own rules. I'd actually be pretty surprised if she won.


18 posted on 06/10/2004 11:22:45 AM PDT by Modernman (It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance? -Ronald Reagan)
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To: NYer

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I want everyone to treat my dog as my little girl!!!! She's not a dog!, she's not!


19 posted on 06/10/2004 11:23:04 AM PDT by Die_Hard Conservative Lady
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To: NYer

A private club has the right to set its own policies... as to who it will and will not allow in or recognize or extend benefits to. This isn't a public accomadation, but a private club. Frankly I think they should just not extend this particular person an invite back after her current membership expires and be done with it.


20 posted on 06/10/2004 11:23:32 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: SheLion; Mears; cinFLA; VRWC_minion

Trying to use government force to ensure the private organization bends to her desire. Sounds like a couple of Freepers I see with the same desires.


21 posted on 06/10/2004 11:25:09 AM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: NYer

Forget about the issue of what kind of sex this gal likes. She wants married benefits yet the law says she is not married. If the club grants her married benefits they will have to grant married benefits to anyone else who claimes they should have them - unmarried couples living together, couples who are dating, former spouses, etc. The law defines her as "unmarried."


22 posted on 06/10/2004 11:25:24 AM PDT by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: NYer

How can they play golf as spouses when neither can bring balls to the course.


23 posted on 06/10/2004 11:25:40 AM PDT by Pylon (NSD 7-4-69 12-24-87)
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To: NYer; South40; doodlelady; Travis McGee

Color me outta here.
Expect a whole lot more.
Outside San Francisco,
San Diego is the second largest
home to homosexuals/lesbians.


24 posted on 06/10/2004 11:26:21 AM PDT by onyx
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To: IamConservative

THere are pros and cons to this issue...in rfeality, it's not about discrimination, or sexual orientation, it's about a club being able to limit membership to people who enjoy each other...25 years ago, a cc membership belonged to the male, only..his wife and children were part of his family..If HE died...the widow was often no longer welcome..the membership lapsed..odly enough, the other wives were the ones who wanted this...they didn;t want single women around..then, some clubs allowed widows to have associate-type memberships..Thenm when the divorce explosion began in the 70's..with no-fault..women sued,a nd won, to not be excluded...what usually happened in a divorce,the wife and kids stayed inthe house, in the burbs..the male moved to the city, or to another town..now, because divorce is so rampant, and because golf memberships are so scraece, and hard to obtain..we have a long waiting list...we have several formerely married couples who are now BOTH members.., and with new spouses...and on, and on..so,if this female couple....were granted equal status,and THEN they split up, and BOTH wanted to stay, and bring new spouses..well...like rabbits...


25 posted on 06/10/2004 11:26:37 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: NYer
http://www.bhcc.net/Club/Scripts/Home/home.asp

Club's web site.

26 posted on 06/10/2004 11:26:47 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: HamiltonJay

As someone very involved in the operation of a private club (as a member), I can tell you that the government can wield a lot of pressure...threatening the cancellation of liquor licenses, threatening the cancellation of leases, enforcing anti-smoking restrictions by legislative fiat, threatening extra scrutiny on construction permit applications, workers' comp claims, etc. It's very intimidating. Of course, all of this happened to us under a RAT adminstration.


27 posted on 06/10/2004 11:27:40 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Retrosexual Vietnam veteran against John Kerry, proud to be a "crook" and a "liar.")
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To: NYer

If this is a private club .. I don't think the court can force the club to admit members who are not based on the clubs rules.

Remember the golf course in Agusta, GA. The club is for men only. They still do not admit women. This case can set a great precedent in court against having to allow people other than the STATED PURPOSE of the club.


28 posted on 06/10/2004 11:28:59 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: Die_Hard Conservative Lady

I love how the left loses its maturity in claiming coerced benefits or wants as "rights". She is a great ad for W.

Perhaps I will send her a binky. :)


29 posted on 06/10/2004 11:29:19 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: clintonh8r

And it's applauded by some people on this board. The comical thing is that they still claim to be "conservative".


30 posted on 06/10/2004 11:29:39 AM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: NYer

Lesbians Golfing? Now that's news!


31 posted on 06/10/2004 11:32:08 AM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: NYer
After filing her lawsuit, Koebke says the atmosphere became hostile enough that her business clients were made uncomfortable, forcing her to stop bringing them.

Not because she was outed as a homosexual.

32 posted on 06/10/2004 11:32:24 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: clintonh8r

Government Blackmail


33 posted on 06/10/2004 11:33:28 AM PDT by just me (May President Ronald Reagan rest in peace. God Bless Him)
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To: NYer

I'd like to scratch my armpits, go unshaven, wear slovenly clothes, pass gas vigorously in mixed company, keep bits of broccoli in my teeth, and be accepted as a social equal at the Country Club. If people keep avoiding me, I'm going to sue.


34 posted on 06/10/2004 11:34:15 AM PDT by T'wit (Of course she's a witch. She can make lamps and ashtrays fly through the air, can't she?)
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To: mountaineer

"...no one is ever unhappy and everyone shoots under par every day."

I think there is one like that at Lake Woebegon.


35 posted on 06/10/2004 11:34:58 AM PDT by beelzepug (I'll take "Why Me?" for a thousand, Alex.)
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To: just me

precisely


36 posted on 06/10/2004 11:35:17 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Retrosexual Vietnam veteran against John Kerry, proud to be a "crook" and a "liar.")
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To: onyx
What disturbs me more was an article I remember reading a while back. It said 1 in 10 San Diegans is HIV positive. That's an incredibly scary number.

So the next time you're in a group of ten people, try and guess which one it is; it really shouldn't be all that difficult.


37 posted on 06/10/2004 11:36:55 AM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: T'wit

"I'd like to scratch my armpits, go unshaven..."

Are you my brother-in-law?


38 posted on 06/10/2004 11:37:50 AM PDT by beelzepug (I'll take "Why Me?" for a thousand, Alex.)
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To: NYer
They're just like you and me....


39 posted on 06/10/2004 11:39:08 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. )
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To: NYer

The club should consider this request very seriously.

Then say "No."

Dan


40 posted on 06/10/2004 11:40:08 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: mountaineer

Waaaaaa I wanna join PETA and have a bar-b-Que. fundraiser but they won’t let me. Waaaaaaaaa


41 posted on 06/10/2004 11:40:16 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: mountaineer

Don't you think the pony idea is a little over the top? ;-}


42 posted on 06/10/2004 11:40:33 AM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: CyberAnt
Remember the golf course in Agusta, GA. The club is for men only. They still do not admit women.

One caveat- Augusta's rules do not ban women as members. There is actually no provision in the club's rules mentioning the gender of members. Rather, the rules require that a potential member be nominated by an existing member and approved by a vote. No woman has been granted membership yet. Hootie something-or-other, the club's president, has publicly said that the club will eventually have female members, but that it will do so on its own schedule.

43 posted on 06/10/2004 11:40:40 AM PDT by Modernman (It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance? -Ronald Reagan)
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To: South40

ONE in TEN?
Are you serious?
I know you are, but
damn, that is beyond scarey.

1 in 10 HIV positive.
Holy sh!t.
That's epidemic, isn't it?


44 posted on 06/10/2004 11:40:47 AM PDT by onyx
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To: NYer

Do lesbians use strap-on clubs?


45 posted on 06/10/2004 11:41:13 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: NYer

"To me, that's saying: 'Well, we want grandchildren to play, but for you two women, as a same-sex couple, we don't want you to play,'" French says.

I think she's got it.


46 posted on 06/10/2004 11:41:13 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: NYer
A long time ago, I was approached about joining an exclusive club in NYC. It had a 3 year waiting list, but my friends assured me that I could get "special treatment".

I was very flattered, and toured the facility the next day.

The place, dripping with tradition and very elite, gave me the creeps. My friends were stunned when I told them thanks, but no thanks. I didn't want to join a place - even at their invitation - where it was clear I would feel out-of-place...in my case, because I am Jewish.

Why anyone would knowingly join a **private club** where they are likely to be a cause of awkwardness is a mystery to me.

47 posted on 06/10/2004 11:44:09 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: NYer
"I just sit there and wait," she says. "They've made it impossible for me to enjoy the club."

This woman needs to grow up. The world does not revolve around her. She has the freedom to leave the club.

48 posted on 06/10/2004 11:44:34 AM PDT by SaveTheChief
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To: NYer

This is very interesting.

Yesday Rush was talking about the tremendous power homosexuals have over what media outlets get the big advertising dollars, because they are the execs in the companies that buy advertising. (Asd well as increasingly taking hold over professional organizations, schools and government bureacracies). It was from a Canadian article about the Feminarchy.
And here it is;
"Koebke, a 47-year-old television sales executive"!

I would like to know a lot more about this. Is the homosexual power groups in media that keep CNN blasting away in airports?

I know that big corporations now have Gay And Lesbian Whatever departments. I am grinding my teeth! How do they do it! Why do people give in to them, why do they hire them in these positions? What deluded cultish thinking makes these people get hired?

So not only is Koebke busy as hell directing the big advertising dollars to left-wing media, she's busting up a private golf club for herself and her perverted partner.

Somebody explain to me how they have gotten this power.


49 posted on 06/10/2004 11:45:53 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: NativeNewYorker
"I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members." - Groucho Marx.

I think I have a new tagline.

50 posted on 06/10/2004 11:46:42 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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