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me ^ | 6/10/2004 | me

Posted on 06/10/2004 12:13:18 PM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step

OK.

Living in Seattle sucks. It's June 10th and the rest of the country is basking in warm spring weather and it's 51 degrees outside.

I wouldn't mind TX, but the wife says she can't stand the heat. Is it really that hot in TX? All of TX? Are there any semi-moderate places there?

Been looking at NH. I don't like snow, but I'll put up with it for 3-4 months, etc.

Looking for some FReepmail from natives on the really skinny on weather, crime, taxes, etc.

I took a survey and it said El Paso is the place for me. The closest I've been to Texas is Utah.

I like decent metro areas (love Manhattan). But, I want a house with a 2 or 3 car garage, etc.

It'll be nice to move out of an area where I'm up to my armpits in lefties!

Thanks,


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1 posted on 06/10/2004 12:13:18 PM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
Living in Seattle sucks. It's June 10th and the rest of the country is basking in warm spring weather and it's 51 degrees outside.

Rate_Determining_Step, we'll be sorry to lose you. Some of us like 56F (that's what it is out here in Redmond) and drizzle... but it's not everyone's cuppa tea.

2 posted on 06/10/2004 12:15:59 PM PDT by sionnsar (http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/ ||| sionnsar: the part of the bagpipe where the melody comes out)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
I've lived in Dallas, Ft. Worth, Houston, San Antonio and Austin. I have relatives who live in the panhandle in Amarillo. Texas is hot during the summer! That's just the way it is.

I live in a a small town in Oklahoma now and I like it here.

3 posted on 06/10/2004 12:16:57 PM PDT by Sally'sConcerns
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

We had friends from Washington visit us (in Austin) in March. It was raining. They really didn't mind because it was warm. Yes, it gets hot here in the summer but that is what AC and the local pool are for. And we don't have to shovel the heat.


4 posted on 06/10/2004 12:17:22 PM PDT by TXBubba (aka TXBubbette)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
You know you are in Texas during the summertime when:
6/7/02

The best parking place is determined by shade instead of distance.

Hot water now comes out of both taps.

You can make sun tea instantly.

You learn that a seat belt buckle makes a pretty good branding iron.

The temperature drops below 95 and you feel a little chilly.

You discover that in July it only takes 2 fingers to steer your car.

You discover that you can get sunburned through your car window.

You actually burn your hand opening the car door.

You break into a sweat the instant you step outside at 7:30 a.m.

Your biggest bicycle wreck fear is, "What if I get knocked out and end up lying on the pavement and cook to death?"

You realize that asphalt has a liquid state.

The birds have to use pot holders to pull worms out of the ground.

The potatoes cook underground, so all you have to do is pull one out and add butter, salt, and pepper.

Farmers are feeding their chickens crushed ice to keep them from laying hard-boiled eggs.

The cows are giving evaporated milk.

The trees are whistling for the dogs.
5 posted on 06/10/2004 12:17:36 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
Yes. Texas is hot in the summer (we haven't had much heat yet this year, though), and, some years, very dry (six inches of rain in the last 48 hours, though).

But, no income tax yet (though property taxes are pretty high).

But, we have mild winters, and quality of life is very good.

There's good and bad about most places, though. Depends on what your priorities are.

6 posted on 06/10/2004 12:17:43 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
I'll put up with it for 3-4 months, etc.

And some winters 5-6 months.

7 posted on 06/10/2004 12:18:05 PM PDT by theDentist (Thanks Ron... we'll take it from here.)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

I suggest taking a look at North Carolina.


8 posted on 06/10/2004 12:19:14 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

bump


9 posted on 06/10/2004 12:20:18 PM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

Try Georgia. We have air conditioning. : )


10 posted on 06/10/2004 12:20:46 PM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: thackney

AHAHAHA!

We must be related! Bakersfield, CA fits notch on your yardstick!!


11 posted on 06/10/2004 12:20:54 PM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
I wouldn't mind TX, but the wife says she can't stand the heat.

If you move to El Paso, you'll be not too far from the Davis Mountains, where it's 80 degrees or so in the summertime. Look up "Fort Davis" on mapquest.

12 posted on 06/10/2004 12:22:17 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Reagan was right.)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
Oh. I thought you needed a pickup truck. Never mind.

But, I prefer New Hampshire, if I had to leave Tennessee.

13 posted on 06/10/2004 12:22:25 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: Phantom Lord

North Carolina--

:(

That's where I learned the significance of the wetness or dryness of heat. It matters!!!!


14 posted on 06/10/2004 12:22:28 PM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
I guess it is all relative. I have been in Texas for over 7 years now after I fled Lousyana.

I lived in the Dallas area for 3 years, and now the Austin area for almost 4. When people say it is hot here, I just shrug it off. Most of the time when they say it is hot, one can stand in the shade and not break a sweat. However, in South Lousyana, the only escape is indoors.

To me, it is a no brainer, TEXAS is the place you should be. Sounds like your wife will whine no matter where you live, so you may as well live in a place that is solidly Conservative.

15 posted on 06/10/2004 12:22:31 PM PDT by lormand (Save the Whales? Call a Democrat! Save the World? Call the Republicans)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

No, it's not that hot in the Texas panhandle. Some summer days it only get up to 93 or 94 degrees.


16 posted on 06/10/2004 12:22:36 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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It'll be nice to move out of an area where I'm up to my armpits in lefties!

-They are leaving MA for NH in droves. We have no income tax up here, but the property taxes are pretty high. Long winters (November - April realistically), with lots of snow are brutal, but they give you a good excuse to stay inside by the fire with your honey and a cup of cocoa.


17 posted on 06/10/2004 12:22:41 PM PDT by Mavis
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

It'll be nice to move out of an area where I'm up to my armpits in lefties!

-They are leaving MA for NH in droves. We have no income tax up here, but the property taxes are pretty high. Long winters (November - April realistically), with lots of snow are brutal, but they give you a good excuse to stay inside by the fire with your honey and a cup of cocoa.


18 posted on 06/10/2004 12:22:48 PM PDT by Mavis
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

Dear Diary:

May 30th: Just moved to Houston...Now this is a city that knows how to live!! Beautiful sunny days and warm balmy evenings. What a place! Watched the sunset from a park lying on a blanket. It was beautiful. I've finally found my home. I love it here.

June 14th: Really heating up. Got to 100 today. Not a problem. Live in an air-conditioned home, drive an air-conditioned car. What a pleasure to see the sun everyday like this. I'm turning into a sun worshipper.

June 30th: Had the backyard landscaped with western plants today. Lots of cactus and rocks. What a breeze to maintain. No more mowing lawn for me. Another scorcher today, but I love it here.

July 10th: The temperature hasn't been below 100 all week. How do people get used to this kind of heat? At least it's kind of windy though. But getting used to the heat and humidity is taking longer that I expected.

July 15th: Fell asleep by the pool. (Got 3rd degree burns over 60% of my body). Missed 3 days of work. What a dumb thing to do. I learned my lesson though. Got to respect the ol' sun in a climate like this.

July 20th: I missed Morgan (our cat) sneaking into the car when I left this morning. By the time I got to the hot car for lunch, Morgan had died and swollen up to the size of a shopping bag and stank up the $2,000 leather upholstery. I told the kids that she ran away. The car now smells like Kibbles and s***s. I learned my lesson though. No more pets in this heat.

July 25th: The wind sucks. It feels like a giant freaking blowdryer!! And it's hot as hell. The home air-conditioner is on the fritz and the AC repairman charged $200 just to drive by and tell me he needed to order parts.

July 30th: Been sleeping outside by the pool for 3 nights now. $1,500 in damn house payments and we can't even go inside. Why did I ever come here?

Aug. 4th: It's 115 degrees. Finally got the air-conditioner fixed today. It cost $500 and gets the temperature down to 85, but this freaking humidity makes the house feel like it's about 95. Stupid repairman. I hate this stupid city.

Aug. 8th: If another wise ass cracks, "Hot enough for you today?", I'm going to strangle him. Damn heat. By the time I get to work the radiator is boiling over, my clothes are soaking wet, and I smell like baked cat!!

Aug. 9th: Tried to run some errands after work. Wore shorts, and sat on the black leather seats in the ol' car. I thought my a** was on fire. I lost 2 layers of flesh and all the hair on the back of my legs and a**. Now my car smells like burnt hair, fried a**, and baked cat.

Aug. 10th: The weather report might as well be a damn recording. Hot and sunny. Hot and sunny. Hot and sunny. It's been too hot to do s*** for 2 damn months and the weatherman says it might really warm up next week. Doesn't it ever rain in this damn desert?? Water rationing will be next, so might $1700 worth of cactus just dry up and blow into the damn pool. Even the cactus can't live in this damn heat.

Aug. 14th: Welcome to HELL!!! Temperature got to 115 today. Forgot to crack the window and blew the damn windshield out of the car. The installer came to fix it and said, "Hot enough for you today?" My wife had to spend the $1500 house payment to bail me out of jail. Freaking Texas. What kind of a sick demented idiot would want to live here??


19 posted on 06/10/2004 12:22:54 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: sionnsar

I've lived here since I was a little kid and I don't know if it's me, but I just can't handle all the 40-50 degree weather. Remember 2000? Something like 4 months straight of rain? I almost lost it that year.

I mean the scenery is second to none. We spent some time in Reno and San Jose and those were arm pits compared to the PNW. Wastelands. I had my hopes on Reno. Supposed to be the small business capital of the country. NV like WA is a no tax state. But, I was really disappointed in the city. Rather hich (no offense to hicks!), but I've grown up in a big city and love the resources it offers.

Northern California would be *perfect* if it wasn't part of California. And southwest OR would be nice if it weren't for the 6% state income tax.


20 posted on 06/10/2004 12:23:07 PM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: bannie

(Actually, it wasn't North Carolina where I learned that: It was Georgia, South Carolina and Alabama.)


21 posted on 06/10/2004 12:23:41 PM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

I lived in Houston for ten years. It's pretty much the same climate as Florida. We had grapefruits in the back yard. Summers are pretty much the same as St. Louis, where I grew up, hot and humid. Winters are mild - you can wear shorts a few days almost every month, and I never wore a coat. Only two seasons - green and brown. East Texas is pretty much likc Missouri with Oak/Hickory forests in the higher country and rice land in the deltas. West Texas - west of Austin/San Antonio is where the dry region starts. I miss Texas.


22 posted on 06/10/2004 12:24:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

I live about 120 east of Dallas in NE Texas and the only two months that are really hot are July and August, our winters are mild and October and April are outstanding.


23 posted on 06/10/2004 12:24:56 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: thackney
The temperature drops below 95 and you feel a little chilly.

I thought I knew what hot was until I went to Cambodia last year. OMG! This was during the "cool season", in November, when the morning low was about 85 and the midday was about 105.

So in reference to the above - and I'm really not kidding - some people were wearing sweaters because it was 'too cool'.

24 posted on 06/10/2004 12:25:38 PM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

Texas Hill Country west of Austin is beautiful. When I finish my assignment here in Florida, it's back to Texas as fast as I can travel.
There is a climate for everybody in Texas -- that includes a political climate.


25 posted on 06/10/2004 12:26:06 PM PDT by devane617
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
We have a home in Clifton (near Waco) TX  where the winters are mild but the summers are HOT -- it's even hot at night.  We live most of our time in Panama up in the mountains where the outside temperatures never go above 75 deg. F, and some times when the temp goes to its minimum low of a frosty 65 deg. F we put a log in the fire place.

It depends on what's important to you.   Both TX and NH are beautiful, but TX is a lot less expensive.

26 posted on 06/10/2004 12:26:06 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

Houston has many great qualities and is a great place to live - except for one thing.

The humidity.

You know you're approaching summer in Houston when you walk outside and instantly burst into a heavy sweat. Ten minutes outside and you've got perspiration stains on your back, under your arms, etc. Step out of your car or front door and your glasses are immediately fogged up so bad you can't see.

I roofed my house one year during August. I was drinking over three gallons of Gatorade a day, and didn't have to take a leak even once !

When I moved here from Seattle, my wife and I drove to Houston in our un-airconditioned Mustang. Even prior to finding a house, the first thing we did was go out and buy an airconditioned car.

I left Houston one day when it was 85 degrees and absolutely miserable to be outside. I landed in Phoenix, where it was 102. It was so comfortable by comparison I went for a walk outdoors !

This scenario exists for about six months out of the year.


27 posted on 06/10/2004 12:26:16 PM PDT by jimt
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To: Politicalmom

Come to Phoenix, every building you go in has AC. And almost every home you'll look at has a pool. And if you ever miss the cold and snow its just a couple hours up to Flagstaff


28 posted on 06/10/2004 12:26:27 PM PDT by Yohan
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
Here you go


29 posted on 06/10/2004 12:26:57 PM PDT by al baby
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To: bannie

I grew up in Bakersfield and all I could think about after reading post number 5 was: Wow that was every single summer (that started in April) that I have experienced at home. LOL. I don't miss Bakerspatch. The heat is awful!:)


30 posted on 06/10/2004 12:28:16 PM PDT by LadyShallott ("An armed society is a polite society."~Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

I would recommend looking at Tennessee. Nashville is a nice mid-sized city (1M) that is consistently rated as one of the most liveable cities in America. It has good schools, good business opportunities (several auto manufacturers, hospitals, publishing, academics), a good music scene (obviously) and nightlife, and NO INCOME TAX (thanks to a very vigilant and vocal populace).


31 posted on 06/10/2004 12:29:31 PM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

But at least they know how to make chili

"My name is Frank and recently I was honored to be selected as an Outstanding Famous Celebrity in Texas, to be a judge at a chili cook-off because no one else wanted to do it. Also the original person called in sick at the last moment and I happened to be standing there at the judge's table asking directions to the beer wagon when the call came. I was assured by the other two judges that the chili wouldn't be all that spicy, and besides, they told me, I could have free beer during the tasting, so I accepted this as being one of those burdens you endure when you're an Internet writer and therefore known and adored by all." Here are the scorecards from the event:

Chili # 1: Mike's Maniac Mobster Monster Chili
JUDGE ONE: A little too heavy on tomato. Amusing kick.
JUDGE TWO: Nice, smooth tomato flavor. Very mild.
FRANK: Holy smokes, what is this stuff? You could remove dried paint from your driveway with it. Took me two beers to put the flames out. Hope that's the worst one. These people are crazy.

Chili # 2: Arthur's Afterburner Chili
JUDGE ONE: Smoky (barbecue?) with a hint of pork. Slight Jalapeno tang.
JUDGE TWO: Exciting BBQ flavor, needs more peppers to be taken seriously.
FRANK: Keep this out of reach of children! I'm not sure what I am supposed to taste besides pain. I had to wave off two people who wanted to give me the Heimlich maneuver. Shoved my way to the front of the beer line. The barmaid looks like a professional wrestler after a bad night. She was so irritated over my gagging sounds that the snake tattoo under her eye started to twitch. She has arms like Popeye and a face like Winston Churchill. I will NOT pick a fight with her.

Chili # 3: Fred's Famous Burn Down the Barn Chili
JUDGE ONE: Excellent firehouse chili! Great kick. Needs more beans.
JUDGE TWO: A beanless chili, a bit salty, good use of red peppers.
FRANK: This has got to be a joke. Call the EPA, I've located a uranium spill. My nose feels like I have been sneezing Drano. Everyone knows the routine by now and got out of my way so I could make it to the beer wagon. Barmaid pounded me on the back; now my backbone is in the front part of my chest. She said her friends call her "Sally." Probably behind her back they call her "Forklift."

Chili # 4: Bubba's Black Magic
JUDGE ONE: Black bean chili with almost no spice. Disappointing. JUDGE TWO: Hint of lime in the black beans. Good side dish for fish or other mild foods, not much of a chili.
FRANK: I felt something scraping across my tongue but was unable to taste it. Sally was standing behind me with fresh refills so I wouldn't have to dash over to see her. When she winked at me her snake sort of coiled and uncoiled... it's kinda cute.

Chili # 5: Linda's Legal Lip Remover
JUDGE ONE: Meaty, strong chili. Cayenne peppers freshly ground adding considerable kick. Very impressive.
JUDGE TWO: Chili using shredded beef; could use more tomato. Must admit the cayenne peppers make a strong statement.
FRANK: My ears are ringing and I can no longer focus my eyes. I belched and four people in front of me needed paramedics. The contestant seemed hurt when I told her that her chili had given me brain damage. Sally saved my tongue by pouring beer directly on it from a pitcher. Sort of irritates me that one of the other judges asked me to stop screaming.

Chili # 6: Vera's Very Vegetarian Variety
JUDGE ONE: Thin yet bold vegetarian variety chili. Good balance of spice and peppers.
JUDGE TWO: The best yet. Aggressive use of peppers, onions, and garlic. Superb.
FRANK: My intestines are now a straight pipe filled with gaseous flames. No one seems inclined to stand behind me except Sally. I asked if she wants to go dancing later.

Chili # 7: Susan's Screaming Sensation Chili
JUDGE ONE: A mediocre chili with too much reliance on canned peppers.
JUDGE TWO: Ho Hum, tastes as if the chef threw in canned chili peppers at the last moment. I should note that I am worried about Judge Number 3, he appears to be in a bit of distress.
FRANK: You could put a hand grenade in my mouth and pull the pin and I wouldn't feel it. I've lost the sight in one eye and the world sounds like it is made of rushing water. My clothes are covered with chili which slid unnoticed out of my mouth at some point. Good. At the autopsy they'll know what killed me. Go Sally, save yourself before it's too late. I've decided to stop breathing, it's too painful and I'm not getting any oxygen anyway. If I need air I'll just let it in through the hole in my stomach. Call the X-Files people and tell them I've found a super nova on my tongue.

Chili # 8: Helen's Mount Saint Chili
JUDGE ONE: This final entry is a good, balanced chili, neither mild nor hot. Sorry to see that most of it was lost when Judge Number 3 fell and pulled the chili pot on top of himself.
JUDGE TWO: A perfect ending, this is a nice blend chili, safe for all, not too bold but spicy enough to declare its existence.
FRANK: MOMMA!!


32 posted on 06/10/2004 12:29:35 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

Texas is REAL hot during the summer and in the Houston area the humidity hovers around 90% which makes it feel hotter than it is and break into a sweat within seconds of stepping outside. The rest of the year is rather pleasant though. I've spent several Christmas days in shorts and tee-shirts. Snow almost never happens here and when it does, the whole city shuts down because no one knows how to drive on it.


33 posted on 06/10/2004 12:30:02 PM PDT by Bacon Man (Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: thackney
black leather seats in the ol' car

LOL

Rookie mistake

34 posted on 06/10/2004 12:30:20 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
Been looking at NH. I don't like snow, but I'll put up with it for 3-4 months, etc.

Not to throw cold water on your project, but in NH, 3-4 months isn't the amount of time you'd have to put up with snow; it's the amount of time you'd have to enjoy decent, sunny, warm weather. In New England, our winters last a good 6 months. It's not unheard of to get snow in late April/early May, or be snowbound from early October on out.

35 posted on 06/10/2004 12:30:55 PM PDT by 54-46 Was My Number
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

I am from Texas, currently live in Laredo, but from El Paso.
For the most part Texas is warm to hot during the summer. But here (Texas), hot can mean 102 no humidity (West Texas) or 102 with humidity (South Texas--ie 112 real feel).
If I could live any place in Texas, it would be in the area they call the "Hill Country". This includes Austin, Boerne (pronounced Burnee), etc. San Antonio is outside the Hill Country (southern edge), and really one nice place.
I am partial to this state, great people, great culture, great weather (most of the time).
If I can be of any help,let me know.


36 posted on 06/10/2004 12:30:55 PM PDT by chuckcam
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

DO NOT GO TO EL PASO. El Paso is not Texas. It is California. Or maybe Mexico. Seriously. You will find no more conservatives there than in Seattle. (To give persepctive, El Paso is closer to San Diego than Houston.)

It's not even in the same time zone as the rest of the State.

If you are looking for low humidity, think Lubbock or Midland (home of George and Laura). Do not be put off by the lies regarding sand storms. They happen twice a year, in the Spring. It gets hot, but a dry 100 is a wet 80. Most of the year is moderate. 320+ days of blue sky.

If you want trees outside the city limits, go to a suburb of San Antonio or somewhere else in the hill country.

Dallas is expensive.

Austin is pretty, but makes Seattle look like the founding location of the John Birch society, it is so liberal.

Houston is so wet and hot, it is oppressive. Plus, it is the uglist city in the world.

East Texas is OK, lots of trees, not as hot as Houston, but jobs are scarce (compared to the rest of Texas).





37 posted on 06/10/2004 12:31:15 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: LadyShallott

I was born in the Bakersfield area (even in Belton, TX--which was the closest to feeling like I was in Bakersfield I've ever known!). I've lived all over; but I keep coming back here. I guess I'm just aclimated!!


38 posted on 06/10/2004 12:31:22 PM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: thackney

These are hilarious. Wow.

I've got this theory about hot and cold. When it's hot, you can slow down, strip, etc. But when it's cold, you just wish you were dead. Sure, you can crank the heat, but you really wonder that humans are not built for cold.


39 posted on 06/10/2004 12:32:45 PM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

BTW, west Texas is very dry, no trees, great if you like desert. Around Austin they have what they call trees, but are more properly termed "bushes". Going further east, there are some nice trees from Houston on north, but nothing like the PNW.


40 posted on 06/10/2004 12:32:52 PM PDT by jimt
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

I would recommend Dallas. It's hot as heck in the summer. But it's sunny all the time and the winters are mild. Also, you really don't get the feeling that you are surrounded by conservatives in New Hampshire like you do in Texas. New Hampshire has low taxes, but is still too PC for me.


41 posted on 06/10/2004 12:35:21 PM PDT by Texas Federalist
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To: bannie

I was born in Bakersfield as well ( I guess we are neighbors in a round about way). I am fair skinned and a red head. :)Bakersfield was just not my cup of tea. But I go back every three months or so. I can't get over how much it keeps growing. We used to drive out along Stockdale highway when I was in high school and there was nothing. Just brush and some scattered houses. Now Rosedale is even growing with leaps and bounds. My parents still love it though. It's really changing.


42 posted on 06/10/2004 12:35:31 PM PDT by LadyShallott ("An armed society is a polite society."~Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Phantom Lord

Yes, all states are open to consideration. Wife raves on and on about the Carolinas - especially NC. However, don't they have a 6% state income tax.

Having lived in WA since I was a kid, I've never filled out a state income tax. Kindda like to keep it that way. So, that leaves 6 states, WA, NV, TX, FL, TN & NH. I did see a couple of states with ~2% which I could live with if it was a solid red zone state.

Weather is the first motivator, but taxes are important.


43 posted on 06/10/2004 12:37:08 PM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
I sort of remember 2000. But I really remember 1993, when we got just two weeks of summer and it rained so much we couldn't mow because the grass was frequently underwater.

The cool weather I'm generally fine with (I don't like heat), the worst are the endless grey skies with no precipitation. We had three straight months of that right after I moved here in '83. I was almost wanting to go back to California (which I never much liked though living in the Santa Cruz mountains wasn't too bad), burning my hand on the car door and un-fun things like that.

The grey seems to get to people differently at different times.

But to get away from all the liberals... I can't argue about that one bit!

44 posted on 06/10/2004 12:37:27 PM PDT by sionnsar (http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/ ||| sionnsar: the part of the bagpipe where the melody comes out)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

If the political climate is more important to you than the actual weather conditions...then STAY THE HECK OUT OF THE NORTHEAST! You won't regret moving to Texas. All else being equal, that is.


45 posted on 06/10/2004 12:38:48 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (`,,`,,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,,`,,`)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

My sister in law lives near the NH Seacoast. Weather is generally moderate as a result


46 posted on 06/10/2004 12:39:34 PM PDT by UB355
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To: MeanWestTexan

Thinking further, Plano, or one of the towns North or East of Dallas (say Granbury) might be good.

This area is very expensive for Texas(probably not by Seattle standards), relatively temparate, and has a huge metroplex (DFW) close by.

But, taking Midland for example, you could get a 4,000 sq newish construction house, with all the frills (granite kitchen, Viking ovens, 3 car garage) for less than $300,000 in a great neighborhood. Same thing near Dallas would be $500,000. In Houston suburb (not "in the loop"), t would be $400,000.


48 posted on 06/10/2004 12:39:50 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: tdadams
I thought I knew what hot was until I went to Cambodia last year. OMG!

Sounds like a couple from church who spent a couple years in Burkino Faso. When they came back one August they were wearing wool coats because our sweltering 85F heat wave was cold to them...

49 posted on 06/10/2004 12:40:20 PM PDT by sionnsar (http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/ ||| sionnsar: the part of the bagpipe where the melody comes out)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Houston is so wet and hot, it is oppressive. Plus, it is the uglist city in the world.

I'd agree with you on the first, but not on the second. Properly, "Houston" is about 40 miles square, and you can find all kinds of pretty areas all over, as well as ugly areas best driven by quickly.

For ugly, I'd pick El Paso first and San Antonio second. How SA has managed to sell a shallow, dirty drainage ditch as a "Riverwalk" is beyond me. However, it's also home to a wonderful "San Antonio Folk Life Festival" which I'd strongly recommend.

50 posted on 06/10/2004 12:42:18 PM PDT by jimt
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