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Order of Service for state funeral of Ronald Wilson Reagan, 11:30 am, June 11, 2004
Washington National Cathedral ^ | June 11, 2004 | Washington National Cathedral

Posted on 06/10/2004 8:47:06 PM PDT by churchillbuff

THE CATHEDRAL CHURCH OF SAINT PETER AND SAINT PAUL Washington National Cathedral 11 June 2004 at 11:30 am

RONALD WILSON REAGAN

Fortieth President of the United States 1911-2004

Celebrant

The Reverend John C. Danforth

Participants

The Right Reverend John Bryson Chane Bishop of Washington and Dean of the Cathedral

The Right Reverend A. Theodore Eastman Vicar, Washington National Cathedral

His Eminence Theodore Cardinal McCarrick Catholic Archbishop of Washington

His Eminence Archbishop Demetrios Primate of the Greek Orthodox Church in America

Imam Mohammad Magid Ali Imam and Director of the All Dulles Area Muslim Society

Readers

Rabbi Harold Kushner The Honorable Sandra Day O’Connor

Tributes

The President of the United States President George H. W. Bush The Right Honourable the Baroness Thatcher, L.G., O.M., F.R.S The Right Honourable Brian Mulroney

ORDER OF SERVICE RECEPTION OF THE BODY

The People stand as the procession enters.

The Celebrant is led to the center of the rood screen landing; all others to their seats.

When at about the mid-nave cross-aisle, the Celebrant begins

ANTHEMS IN PROCESSION, MR. DANFORTH

I am the resurrection and the life, saith the Lord; he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live; and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.

I know that my Redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth; and though this body be destroyed, yet shall I see God; whom I shall see for myself and mine eyes shall behold, and not as a stranger.

For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. For if we live, we live unto the Lord; and if we die, we die unto the Lord. Whether we live, therefore, or die, we are the Lord’s.

Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord; even so saith the Spirit, for they rest from their labors.

When he has reached the rood screen landing, the Celebrant faces the congregation. When the casket is in position, and the bearers have departed, the Celebrant says

Let us pray.

COLLECT FOR BURIAL

O God, whose mercies cannot be numbered: Accept our prayers on behalf of thy servant Ronald, and grant him an entrance into the land of light and joy, in the fellowship of thy saints; through Jesus Christ thy Son our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with thee and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and for ever. Amen.

The People are seated.

The Celebrant goes to his stall as the first and second readers are led to the lectern. The first reader steps up to the reading desk.

READING FROM THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES RABBI KUSHNER ISAIAH 40:28-31

A reading from Isaiah.

Hast thou not known? Hast though not heard, that the everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary. There is no searching of his understanding. He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength. Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall: But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

Here ends the reading.

The first reader steps down to the landing, and the second reader steps up to the reading desk

READING, JUSTICE O’CONNOR PREACHED ABOARD THE ARABELLA

From a sermon of John Winthrop, preached in 1630.

Now the only way…to provide for our posterity, is to follow the counsel of Micah, to do justly, to love mercy, to walk humbly with our God.… We must delight in each other; make others’ conditions our own; rejoice together, mourn together, labor and suffer together, always having before our eyes our commission and community in the work, as members of the same body.… The Lord will be our God, and delight to dwell among us, as His own people.… For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill. The eyes of all people are upon us. So that if we shall deal falsely with our God in this work we have undertaken, and so cause Him to withdraw His present help from us, we shall be made a story and a by-word through the world.

The second reader steps down, and both readers are led back to their seats.

A lectern is placed on the rood screen landing center for Mr. Mulrony.

ANTHEM TUNE: JERUSALEM SUNG BY THE CATHEDRAL CHOIR

O love of God, how strong and true, Eternal and yet ever new; Uncomprehended and unbought, Beyond all knowledge and all thought! O love of God, how deep and great, Far deeper than man’s deepest hate; Self-fed, self-kindled like the light, Changeless, eternal, infinite.

O heavenly love, how precious still, In days of weariness and ill, In nights of pain and helplessness, To heal, to comfort, and to bless! O wide-embracing, wondrous love! We read you in the sky above, We read you in the earth below, In seas that swell and streams that flow.

We read you best in him who came To bear for us the cross of shame; Sent by the Father from on high, Our life to live, our death to die. We read your power to bless and save, E’en in the darkness of the grave; Still more in resurrection light We read the fullness of your might.

O love of God, our shield and stay Through all the perils of our way! Eternal love, in you we rest Forever safe, forever blest. We will exalt you, God and King, and we will ever praise your name; We will extol you every day, and evermore your praise proclaim

Horatio Bonar, 1858

Towards the end of the anthem, Mr. Mulroney is led to the landing lectern for his tribute.

TRIBUTE, MR. MULRONEY

As Mr. Mulroney returns, the landing lectern is removed. The Celebrant stands at his stall, faces the congregation, and introduces Baroness Thatcher’s videotaped tribute, then takes his seat again.

TRIBUTE, (VIA VIDEOTAPE) BARONESS THATCHER

When the tape is finished, Mr. Bush is led to the pulpit for his tribute.

TRIBUTE, MR. BUSH

When Mr. Bush has finished, he is led back to his seat as President Bush is led to the pulpit.

TRIBUTE PRESIDENT BUSH

ANTHEM, WILLIAM STEFFE SUNG BY THE ARMED FORCES CHORUS WITH THE US MARINE CHAMBER ORCHESTRA

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord; He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; He hath loosed the fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword; His truth is marching on. Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have seen him in the watchfires of a hundred circling camps; They have builded him an altar in the evening dews and damps; I can read his righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps; His day is marching on. Chorus

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea With a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me. As he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on. Chorus

Julia Ward Howe

During the last chorus, the third reader is led to the lectern for the Gospel lesson.

The People stand for the Gospel

GOSPEL, CARDINAL MCCARRICK MATTHEW 5:14-16

A reading from the Gospel according to Matthew.

Jesus said, “You are the light of the world. A city built on a hill cannot be hid. No one after lighting a lamp puts it under the bushel basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father in heaven.”

Reader The Word of the Lord. People Thanks be to God.

As the reader returns to his stall, the Celebrant goes to the pulpit for the homily.

HOMILY, MR. DANFORTH

As the homilist returns to his stall, the orchestra and soloist begin the anthem.

ANTHEM TUNE: NEW BRITAIN SUNG BY RONAN TYNAN

Amazing grace! how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me! I once was lost but now am found, was blind, but now I see.

’Twas grace that taught my heart to fear, and grace my fears relieved; How precious did that grace appear the hour I first believed!

The Lord has promised good to me; his word my hope secures; He will my shield and portion be as long as life endures.

Through many dangers, toils, and snares I have already come; ’Tis grace that brought me safe this far, and grace will lead me home.

When we’ve been there ten thousand years, bright shining as the sun, We’ve no less days to sing God’s praise than when we’d first begun.

John Newton; st. 5 John Rees

During the last verse, the Vicar is led to the bottom of the lectern steps.

The people stand for the remainder of the service, as they are able.

From his stall, the Celebrant leads the Lord’s Prayer, said by all.

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.

The Vicar steps up to the lectern reading desk to lead the prayers.

PRAYERS OF THE PEOPLE, BISHOP EASTMAN

In peace, let us pray to the Lord.

Almighty God, who hast knit together thine elect in one communion and fellowship, in the mystical body of thy Son Christ our Lord: Grant, we beseech thee, to thy whole Church in paradise and on earth, thy light and thy peace. Amen.

Grant that all who have been baptized into Christ’s death and resurrection may die to sin and rise to newness of life, and that through the grave and gate of death we may pass with him to our joyful resurrection. Amen.

Grant to us who are still in our pilgrimage, and who walk as yet by faith, that thy Holy Spirit may lead us in holiness and righteousness all our days. Amen.

Grant to thy faithful people pardon and peace, that we may be cleansed from all our sins, and serve thee with a quiet mind. Amen.

Grant to all who mourn a sure confidence in thy fatherly care, that, casting all their grief on thee, they may know the consolation of thy love. Amen.

Grant us, with all who have died in the hope of the resurrection, to have our consummation and bliss in thy eternal and everlasting glory, and, with blessed Peter and Paul and all thy saints, to receive the crown of life which thou dost promise to all who share in the victory of thy Son Jesus Christ; who liveth and reigneth with thee and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever. Amen.

As the Vicar is led back to his stall, the organ begins the hymn introduction.

During this hymn, those who are required for the departing ceremonies outside are unobtrusively escorted from the Cathedral.

HYMN TUNE: ODE TO JOY

Sung by all

Sing with all the saints in glory, sing the resurrection song! Death and sorrow, earth’s dark story, to the former days belong. All around the clouds are breaking, Soon the storms of time will cease; In God’s likeness, we awaken, Knowing everlasting peace.

O what glory, far exceeding, All that eye has yet perceived! Holiest hearts for ages pleading, Never that full joy conceived. God has promised, Christ prepares it, There on high our welcome waits; Ev’ry humble spirit shares it, Christ has passed th’ eternal gates.

During the last verse, vergers lead the Bishop of Washington, the Vicar, and the Celebrant to the foot of the casket, the Celebrant at the foot, the Vicar to his left, and the Bishop to his right, where they face the congregation

The Celebrant then says responsively with the people

THE COMMENDATION, MR. DANFORTH

Give rest, O Christ, to thy servant with thy saints, where sorrow and pain are no more, neither sighing, but life everlasting.

Thou only art immortal, the creator and maker of mankind; and we are mortal, formed of the earth, and unto earth shall we return. For so thou didst ordain when thou createdst me, saying, “Dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.” All we go down to the dust; yet even at the grave we make our song: Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia.

Give rest, O Christ, to thy servant with thy saints, where sorrow and pain are no more, neither sighing, but life everlasting.

The Celebrant, facing the body, says

Into thy hands, O merciful Savior, we commend thy servant Ronald. Acknowledge, we humbly beseech thee, a sheep of thine own fold, a lamb of thine own flock, a sinner of thine own redeeming. Receive him into the arms of thy mercy, into the blessed rest of everlasting peace, and into the glorious company of the saints in light. Amen.

THE BLESSING, BISHOP CHANE

The God of peace, who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus Christ, the great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is well-pleasing in his sight;

And the blessing of God Almighty, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, be among you, and remain with you always. Amen.

DISMISSAL, BISHOP EASTMAN

Vicar: Let us go forth in the name of Christ. People: Thanks be to God.

As the introduction to the anthem begins, the three clerics are escorted back to their stalls.

The bodybearers come from the North transept, rotate the casket, and prepare to take it out.

During the last verse, the acolytes take their positions at the rood screen, and vergers take positions by their charges.

ANTHEM, NICK GLENNIE-SMITH SUNG BY THE ARMED FORCES CHORUS WITH THE US MARINE CHAMBER ORCHESTRA

To fallen soldiers let us sing Where no rockets fly nor bullets wing Our broken brothers let us bring To the Mansions of the Lord.

No more bleeding, no more fight No prayers pleading through the night Just divine embrace, eternal light In the Mansions of the Lord.

Where no mothers cry and no children weep We will stand and guard though the angels sleep Through the ages safely keep The Mansions of the Lord.

Randall Wallace


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To: churchillbuff
Some statistics on religion can be found in the 2000 Statistical Abstract of the United States , table 74 page 61. These tables are in Adobe Acrobat's Portable Document Format (PDF). To view PDF files, you will need Acrobat Reader which is available for free from Adobe .

In Table No. 74. 'Religous Bodies' - selected data: Muslim Islamic 1990 ~ membership: 527000

101 posted on 06/11/2004 12:03:35 AM PDT by daisymeme (Money often costs too much, when we make money to spend time.)
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To: Rollee
"Why is there an iman at this service? Will he show up?"

I agree with your position on the Mohammed Magot guy.

Thing is I read the whole post as unless I missed something MM though listed as a "participant" doesn't have any mouth time.

As one Freeper's tagline I noticed recently says: "Allah FUBAR!"

102 posted on 06/11/2004 12:06:10 AM PDT by Positive
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Here


103 posted on 06/11/2004 12:07:45 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (God Bless America)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thanks. So, if my math is good, that's 8:30am west coast time, right?


104 posted on 06/11/2004 12:12:38 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: churchillbuff
John Winthrop A Modell of Christian Charity 1630 WRITTEN ON BOARD THE ARBELLA, ON THE ATLANTIC OCEAN. God Almighty, in his most holy and wise providence, hath so disposed of the condition of mankind, as in all times some must be rich, some poor, some high and eminent in power and dignity, others mean and in subjection. THE REASON HEREOF First, to hold conformity with the rest of his works. Being delighted to show forth the glory of his wisdom in the variety and difference of the creatures; and the glory of his power, in ordering all these differences for the preservation and good of the whole; and the glory of his greatness, that as it is the glory of princes to have many officers, so this great king will have many stewards, counting himself more honored in dispensing his gifts to man by man, than if he did it by his own immediate hands. Secondly, that he might have the more occasion to manifest the work of his Spirit. First, upon the wicked, in moderating and restraining them: so that the rich and mighty should not eat up the poor, nor the poor and despised rise up against their superiors and shake off their yoke. Secondly, in the regenerate, in exercising his graces in them: as in the great ones, their love, mercy, gentleness, temperance etc.; in the poor and inferior sort, their faith, patience, obedience etc. Thirdly, that every man might have need of other, and from hence they might be all knit more nearly together in the bond of brotherly affection. From hence it appears plainly that no man is made more honorable than another, or more wealthy etc., out of any particular and singular respect to himself, but for the glory of his creator and the common good of the creature, man. Therefore God still reserves the property of these gifts to himself, as Ezekiel, 16.17: he there calls wealth his gold and his silver; Proverbs, 3.9: he claims their service as his due: honor the Lord with thy riches etc. All men being thus (by divine providence) ranked into two sorts, rich and poor, under the first are comprehended all such as are able to live comfortably by their own means duly improved; and all others are poor, according to the former distribution.... This law of the Gospel propounds likewise a difference of seasons and occasions. There is a time when a Christian must sell all and give to the poor, as they did in the apostles' times. There is a time also when a Christian (though they give not all yet) must give beyond their ability, as they of Macedonia, II Corinthians, 8.8. Likewise community of perils calls for extraordinary liberality, and so doth community in some special service for the church. Lastly, when there is no other means whereby our Christian brother may be relieved in his distress, we must help him beyond our ability, rather than tempt God in putting him upon help by miraculous or extraordinary means.... The definition which the scripture gives us of lave is this: 'Love is the bond of perfection.' First, it is a bond, or ligament Secondly, it makes the work perfect There is nobody but consists of parts, and that which knits these parts together, gives the body its perfection, is love.... From hence we may frame these conclusions. First, all true Christians are of one body in Christ, I Corinthians, 12.12.27: "Ye are the body of Christ and members of its parts" Secondly, the ligaments of this body which knit together are love. Thirdly, no body can be perfect which wants it proper ligament. Fourthly, all the parts of this body, being thus united, are made so contiguous in a special relation as they must needs partake of each other's strength and infirmity, joy and sorrow, weal and woe, I Corinthians, 12.26: "If one member suffers, all suffer with it, if one be in honor, all rejoice with it." Fifthly, this sensibleness and sympathy of each other's conditions will necessarily infuse into each part a native desire and endeavor to strengthen, defend, preserve and comfort the other... It rests now to make some application of this discourse by the present design, which gave the occasion of writing of it. Herein are four things to be propounded: first, the persons; secondly, the work; thirdly, the end; fourthly, the means. First, for the persons. We are a company professing ourselves fellow members of Christ, in which respect only though were absent from each other many miles, and had our employments as far distant, yet we ought to account ourselves knit together by this bond of love, and live in the exercise of it, if we would have comfort of our being in Christ. This was notorious in the practice of the Christians in former times; as is testified of the Waldenses, from the mouth of one of the adversaries Aeneas Sylvius "mutuo [ament] pene antequam norunt"-they use[d] to love any of their own religion even before they were acquainted with them. Secondly, for the work we have in hand. It is by a mutual consent through a special overvaluing providence and a more than an ordinary approbation of the churches of Christ, to seek out a place of cohabitation and consortship under a due form of government both civil and ecclesiastical. In such cases as this, the care of the public must oversay all private respects, by which not only conscience, but mere civil policy, cloth bind us. For it is a true rule that particular estates cannot subsist in the ruin of the public. Thirdly, the end is to improve our lives to do more service to the Lord; the comfort and increase of the body of Christ whereof we are members, that ourselves and posterity may be the better preserved from the common corruptions of this evil world, to serve the Lord and work out our salvation under the power and purity of his holy ordinances. Fourthly, for the means whereby this must be effected. They are twofold, a conformity with the work and end we aim at. These we see are extraordinary, therefore we must not content ourselves with usual ordinary means: whatsoever we did, or ought to have done, when we lived in England, the same must we do, and more also, where we go. That which the most in their churches maintain as a truth in profession only, we must bring into familiar and constant practice, as in this duty of love. We must love brotherly without dissimulation, we must love one another with a pure heart fervently, we must bear one another's burdens, we must not look only on our own things, but also on the things of our brethren. Neither must we think that the Lord will bear with such failings at our hands as he cloth from those among whom we have lived, and that for three reasons. First, in regard of the more near bond of marriage between him and us, wherein he hath taken us to be his after a most strict and peculiar manner, which will make him the more jealous of our love and obedience. So he tells the people of Israel, you only have I known of all the families of the earth, therefore will I punish you for your transgressions. Secondly, because the Lord will be sanctioned in them that come near him. We know that there were many that corrupted the service of the Lord, some setting up altars before his own, others offering both strange fire and strange sacrifices also; yet there came no fire from heaven or other sudden judgment upon them, as did upon Nadab and Abihu, who yet we may think did not sin presumptuously. Thirdly, when God gives a special commission he looks to have it strictly observed in every article. When he gave Saul a commission to destroy Amalek, he indented with him upon certain articles, and because he failed in one of the least, and that upon a fair pretense, it lost him the kingdom which should have been his reward if he had observed his commission. Thus stands the cause between God and us. We are entered into covenant with him for this work, we have taken out a commission, the Lord hath given us leave to draw our own articles, we have professed to enterprise these actions, upon these and those ends, we have hereupon besought him of favor and blessing. Now if the Lord shall please to hear us, and bring us in peace to the place we desire, then hath he ratified this covenant and sealed our commission, [and] will expect a strict performance of the articles contained in it. But if we shall neglect the observation of these articles, which re the ends we have propounded, and, dissembling with our God, shall fall to embrace this present world and prosecute our carnal intentions, seeking great things for ourselves and our posterity, the Lord will surely break out in wrath against us, be revenged of such a perjured people and make us know the price of the breach of such a covenant. Now the only way to avoid this shipwreck, and to provide for our posterity, is to follow the counsel of Micah: to do justly, to love mercy, to walk humbly with our God. For this end, we must be knit together in this work as one man, we must entertain each other in brotherly affection, we must be willing to abridge ourselves of our superfluities, for the supply of others' necessities, we must uphold a familiar commerce together in all meekness, gentleness, patience and liberality; we must delight in each other, make others' conditions our own, rejoice together, mourn together, labor and suffer together, always having before our eyes our commission and community in the work, our community as members of the same body. So shall we keep the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace. The Lord will be our God, and delight to dwell among us as his own people, and will command a blessing upon us in all our ways, so that we shall see much more of his wisdom, power, goodness and truth, than formerly we have been acquainted with. We shall find that the God of Israel is among us, when ten of us shall be able to resist a thousand of our enemies: when he shall make us a praise and glory that men shall say of succeeding plantations: "the Lord make it like that of New England." For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill: The eyes of all people are upon us, so that if we shall deal falsely with our God in this work we have undertaken, and so cause him to withdraw his present help from us, we shall be made a story and a by-word through the world: we shall open the mouths of enemies to speak evil of the ways of God and all professors for God's sake. We shall shame the faces of many of God's worthy servants, and cause their prayers to be turned into curses upon us, till we be consumed out of the good land whither we are going. And to shut up this discourse with that exhortation of Moses, that faithfull servant of the Lord, in his last farewell to Israel, Deuteronomy, 30: beloved, there is now set before us life and good, death and evil, in that we are commanded this day to love the Lord our God, and to love one another, to walk in his ways and to keep his commandments and his ordinance and his laws, and the articles of our covenant with him, that we may live and be multiplied, and that the Lord our God may bless us in the land whither we go to possess it. But if our hearts shall turn away, so that we will not obey, but shall be seduced, and worship other God-our pleasures and profits-and serve them , it is propounded unto us this day, we shall surely perish out of the good land whither we pass over this vast sea to possess it: Therefore let us choose life, that we and our seed may live by obeying His voice and cleaving to Him, for He is our life, and our prosperity.
105 posted on 06/11/2004 12:19:36 AM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (The UN did such a great job with the Oil for Food program, let's let them run the whole country!)
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To: beaversmom; All

C-SPAN has announced they will be having videos on their website of every event starting with the repose in Simi Valley. You might be able to record their videos on CD or DVD.


106 posted on 06/11/2004 12:22:07 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: churchillbuff

How about Jordan, Kuwait, Pakistan, Indonesia, etc.


107 posted on 06/11/2004 12:24:02 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: foreverfree
Imam Mohammad Magid Ali Imam and Director of the All Dulles Area Muslim Society

Sigh...

108 posted on 06/11/2004 12:26:23 AM PDT by ambrose (President Bush on Reagan: "His Work is Done and Now a Shining City Awaits Him")
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To: sinkspur
I apologize for the sarcastic sound of this in advance because, by your logic it would seem that atheists should be invited also don't you think? I mean there are millions of them too...aren't there?
109 posted on 06/11/2004 12:28:18 AM PDT by Positive
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To: beaversmom

But .. IT'S NOT A GOVERNMENT FUNCTION and IT'S NOT BEING HELD IN A GOVERNMENT BUILDING.


110 posted on 06/11/2004 12:29:54 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: churchillbuff

"To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord"

That would assume, of course, that a person knows the Lord.


111 posted on 06/11/2004 12:37:29 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: sinkspur
"Ronald Reagan was a President for all Americans, including the Jews and Muslims."

Oh BTW Ronald Reagan was President for the 241 US Marines that were killed by muslim terror as they slept in there barracks in Lebanon on October 23, 1983.

I wasn't there but I doubt the President Reagan's famous good humor was available to muslims for sometime thereafter.

112 posted on 06/11/2004 12:39:17 AM PDT by Positive
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To: kenth

What I want to know .. what snake gave them a permit to march ..??


113 posted on 06/11/2004 12:39:52 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: Positive
I wasn't there but I doubt the President Reagan's famous good humor was available to muslims for sometime thereafter.

Hey, aren't we in Iraq to "liberate" the Iraqis? And aren't the Iraqis muslims? So how can you condemn all Muslims, when our war in Iraq is being waged to help a lot of Muslims? Also, does your hatred of Muslims extend to nations that are allies of the US such as Kuwait, Turkey, Pakistan, Jordan, Egypt, Indonesia?

114 posted on 06/11/2004 12:43:04 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: CyberAnt

Yeah, that's what I wonder. Do they have a permit and if so, what kind of scum would issue it?


115 posted on 06/11/2004 12:47:27 AM PDT by kenth
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To: churchillbuff

"We shall not see his like again"

Somebody please remind Pat not to hold his breath on this one, okay ..??


116 posted on 06/11/2004 12:48:20 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: churchillbuff
Sounds fittingly beautiful.

It means even more knowing President Reagan planned it himself.

117 posted on 06/11/2004 12:48:46 AM PDT by k2blader
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To: Jonathan

Pitiful! You think just because a leader of another religion walks into a Christian church that it somehow nulifies the church. What you're saying is that it nulifies the power of GOD.

Balderdash!! How ignorant. Jesus said, "here is my church .. those who love me and follow me".

You might be surprised to learn that satan shows up in a lot of churches every Sunday. That still does not negate or dimish the power of GOD.


118 posted on 06/11/2004 12:53:51 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: Soul Seeker

Very well said .. and how can we know that this person has not been privately asking GOD to show him the truth. If you ask GOD he will supply.


119 posted on 06/11/2004 12:55:48 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: kayak

Thanks for this ping. I have printed it out and will be to sing along. That just makes it more enjoyable.


120 posted on 06/11/2004 1:07:34 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: CyberAnt

I know--I was just being sarcastic. I betcha the leftists will complain though since tax dollars are being used. They complained about President Bush's inauguration I remember. Wasn't Franklin Graham there saying a prayer and referring to Jesus? That really chapped their hides. Seems like Dershowitz complained along with some others. Plus I found this:

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The atheist who persuaded a federal appeals court to strike down the Pledge of Allegiance because of the words "under God" lost a bid Monday to abolish prayer at presidential inaugurations.

A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Michael Newdow did not suffer "a sufficiently concrete and specific injury" to pursue his latest claim.

Newdow is both an emergency room physician and a lawyer and has represented himself in the two legal actions.

Newdow argued that the Rev. Franklin Graham's prayer at President Bush's 2001 inauguration was an unconstitutional endorsement of religion. He said the practice of clergy-led prayer at presidential inaugurations did not begin until Franklin D. Roosevelt's second inauguration in 1937.

In 2002, a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit agreed with Newdow that the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional when recited in public schools. The Supreme Court will hear the case next month.

Newdow challenged the pledge on behalf of his daughter, now 9, claiming she was wrongly being exposed to religion in public school.

The Sacramento man said he was unsure whether he would ask the high court to hear his challenge of inaugural prayer.

"I got other things on my mind at the moment," he said, referring to the pledge case, which Newdow himself will argue.


121 posted on 06/11/2004 1:13:29 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: condi2008

That song is so wonderful..Thank you for the link...I have it bookmarked.


122 posted on 06/11/2004 1:43:00 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: SuziQ

Jimmy Carter banned alcohol from the White house for four years because of his beliefs.


123 posted on 06/11/2004 2:24:26 AM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: CyberAnt
You might be surprised to learn that satan shows up in a lot of churches every Sunday. That still does not negate or dimish the power of GOD.

You are absolutely correct. He also dons a "sheep" costume... and is suspected of controlling more than a few pulpits. None of that diminishes God. We are warned over and over of this in The Word. Wheat and tares, wolves and sheep... leading even the 'elect' away...

124 posted on 06/11/2004 3:55:39 AM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I approved this message... 'tooning the truth!)
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To: sinkspur
Radical islam, perverted islam, is evil.

Islam is a cult.

125 posted on 06/11/2004 4:12:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: ambrose

They should have invited Louis Farrakhan. He represents a lot of people


126 posted on 06/11/2004 4:14:58 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!!


127 posted on 06/11/2004 4:31:41 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: T-Bird45; churchillbuff; Don'tMessWithTexas; NonValueAdded; MEG33

Isn't it haunting? I cry each time I hear it. I'm not positive, but I believe that "Mansions of the Lord" originated with the release of "We Were Soldiers". The lyrics and sound are timeless, though, especially when performed by a military chorus, like the USMA Glee Club, or in today's case, "THE ARMED FORCES CHORUS". It should be a memorable moment when it's sung today.


128 posted on 06/11/2004 4:42:29 AM PDT by condi2008 (Pro Libertate)
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To: CyberAnt

You can attend or watch church services that "Satan shows up in", I choose not to.


129 posted on 06/11/2004 5:29:12 AM PDT by Jonathan
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To: sinkspur

A Troubling Presence at a Funeral

By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 11, 2004

Patriotic Americans will always cherish their memories of Ronald Reagan’s strong and courageous leadership during the Cold War. However, his funeral at the National Cathedral may uncap different emotions. Among those the Reagan family has invited to the ecumenical service is Mohammad Magid, a D.C.-area Muslim imam with disturbing ties to suspected terrorists.

Magid, who was born and educated in the Sudan, is the Director of the All Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS). ADAMS has numerous close affiliations with the main targets of “Operation Green Quest,” “the largest U.S. terror finance investigation anywhere in the world.” In March 2002, federal agents raided ADAMS’s facility in Herndon, Virginia, as part of an investigation into financial support for terrorism. Federal affidavits state that the “Grove Street addresses” (500 and 555 Grove St. in Herndon) housed more than 100 interlocking Muslim organizations, most headed by Jamal Barzinji, and these groups gave material aid to terrorists. Among those raided were several major ADAMS associates, including its chairman. Magid himself was present when federal agents raided the Herndon offices of ADAMS in March 2002.


Soon after the raid, Magid held a public meeting encouraging “community building” among the organizations investigated. Although 100 people showed up at the Sterling, Virginia, public library for the meeting, another 150 members of the overflow crowd met at ADAMS headquarters itself.



And with whom did Magid wish to build alliances? Among those invited was Kit Gage of the National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom, Sami al-Arian’s political front group. Al-Arian is the University of South Florida professor indicted for being Palestinian Islamic Jihad’s North American leader and chief financier. Wahhabi talk-show host Mahdi Bray, political advisor for the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), followed Gage. The Washington Times has described MPAC as “an anti-Semitic organization that has defended infamous terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah.”



CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad also addressed the meeting. Awad has a long history of association with extremists, both in this country and in Bosnia. He once worked for senior Hamas political leader Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook’s Islamic Association for Palestine. Awad has removed all doubt about his inclinations, telling a crowd at Barry University in 1994, “I am a supporter of the Hamas movement.” Awad helpfully told the outraged crowd in Sterling: “This is a war against Islam and Muslims. Our administration has the burden of proving otherwise.”



ADAMS’s office is located in Sterling Virginia, but the organization also maintains a “Grove Street Facility” at 500 Grove Street in Herndon. A former Justice Department prosecutor has alleged, in a lawsuit filed in Florida, that funds from this address (and 555 Grove Street, right across the street) were forwarded to Sami al-Arian.



An affidavit stated the “Grove Street” groups – all of which were lead by Jamal Barzinji – were “suspected of providing material support to terrorists, money laundering, and tax evasion through the use of a variety of for-profit companies and ostensible charitable entities under their control, most of which are located at 555 Grove Street, Herndon, Virginia.”



More than 100 organizations (businesses and non-profits) have operated from the two addresses over the years, most tied to the Safa Group, one of Barzinji’s enterprises. The leadership and personnel of ADAMS frequently overlap with the organizations Operation Green Quest targeted.



The chairman of ADAMS is Ahmad Totonji, an Iraqi-born citizen of the kingdom of Saudi Arabia and a key target of Operation Green Quest. Totonji was also named as a defendant in a $1 trillion lawsuit filed by more than 600 relatives of people who died in the 9/11 attacks. He acted as a co-founder and officer of the Saudi-founded/Saudi-funded (and now defunct) SAAR Trust. Additionally, he served as Vice President of the Safa Group and the International Institute for Islamic Thought (IIIT).



Officials have linked the non-profit IIIT to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda. Matthew Levitt of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, testified before Congress in August of 2002 that IIIT employee Tarik Hamdi had personally provided batteries for Osama bin Laden’s satellite phone, keeping the wandering terrorist mastermind connected to his scattered ground troops. According to an Operation Green Quest affidavit, IIIT had also sponsored Basheer Nafi, “an active directing member of (Palestinian Islamic Jihad) front organizations.” Nafi, who acknowledges a chummy relationship with Sami al-Arian, lectures at London’s Muslim College. For this reason, Operation Green Quest raided the homes of Abdul Hamid Abu-Sulayman, former IIIT president; Jamal Barzinji, Director of IIIT; and Hisham Al-Talib, Director IIIT.



Customs agent David Kane also uncovered a monetary tie between IIIT and terrorism. Kane claims that, during a raid in Tampa, he found letters that prove IIIT sent at least $50,000 to the World Islamic Studies Enterprise (WISE), a front for Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The same affidavit states Ahmad Totonji personally signed an IIIT check in the amount of $10,000 to Sami al-Arian’s Tampa Bay Coalition for Justice and Peace on November 1, 2001. Such fortunes are chump change for the SAAR Trust, founded by Saudi magnate Suleiman Abdul Al-Aziz al-Rajhi. SAAR received $1.7 billion in donations in 1998 alone.



Totonji’s prolific connections to Wahhabi radicalism do not end there. He was a co-founder of the radical Muslim Students Association, as well as serving as its second President. Totonji also served as a founder and Secretary General of the World Association of Muslim Youth (WAMY), a Saudi-supported (and hence, Wahhabi) group federal agents raided in May 25, 2004, resulting in the arrest of Ibrahim Abdullah, the current Vice-President of WAMY-USA. WAMY was among the 100-plus organizations that have operated out of the Grove Street facilities. As Kenneth R. Timmerman noted in a recent exposé, “Until the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the head of the WAMY office in Herndon was Abdullah bin Laden,” Osama bin Laden’s younger brother.



Totonji has also personal ties to Louis Farrakhan. At a February 2000 meeting with Farrakhan, Totonji presented each Nation of Islam imam with a gift set of eight books on Islam and voiced his hope that NOI would bolster Islam within North America. In 1996, Farrakhan traveled to Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Syria and Libya, where he denounced the United States alongside Muammar Qaddafi.



Nor has Farrakhan been the only black racist beneficiary of Totonji’s generosity. Totonji has made a $1,000 donation to the unsuccessful re-election campaign of Rep. Cynthia McKinney, D-GA, as did others connected with the Safa Group. McKinney is best remembered for alleging President Bush had advance knowledge of 9/11; her father famously blamed McKinney’s woes on “Jews. J-E-W-S.” Taha al-Alwani, Hisham Al-Talib and Jamal Barzinji gave $500 apiece to McKinney.



ADAMS’s woes, however, are far from confined to one man. Brothers Omar and Muhammed Ashraf were also raided. Omar is a member of the ADAMS Project Committee and Executive Vice President of Sterling Management Group, Inc. Muhammed is ADAMS Legal Advisor and also an attorney to Abdurahman Alamoudi, who has been arrested for laundering Libyan money.



Iqbal Unus, Vice President of the Board of Trustees and an ADAMS Laws Committee member, was also Dean of Students at the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences (GSISS) in Leesburg, Virginia. He had his house raided in the same sweep, as did GSISS President Taha al-Alwani and Yaqub Mizra, President of the Sterling Management Group.



GSISS is one of only two schools authorized to train Muslim chaplains for the armed forces. (The other, the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council – which is a subgroup of the American Muslim Foundation and whose best known alumnus is Captain Yousef Yee – is also under investigation. The AMF was founded by none other than Abdurahman Alamoudi.)



ADAMS nurtures relationship with other suspect organizations as well. ADAMS is affiliated with Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), a likely conduit for Saudi money that happens to control an estimated 80 percent of U.S. mosques. Terrorism expert Steven Emerson has written that ISNA “publishes a bi-monthly magazine, Islamic Horizons, which often champions militant Islamist doctrine, and it convenes annual conferences where Islamist militants have been given a platform to incite violence and promote hatred.”



In addition to ISNA, the ADAMS website also links to such Wahhabi organizations as CAIR, AMC and the Muslims Students Association.



However the invitation came about, it must be declined forthwith. President Ronald Reagan spent his lifetime fighting America’s totalitarian enemies. He does not deserve to have his funeral sullied by the presence of a man who may be associated with them.


130 posted on 06/11/2004 5:29:52 AM PDT by Jonathan
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To: Hat-Trick
Who gave the Imam the invite, and why?

Such a Reagen-esque touch at the end.

131 posted on 06/11/2004 5:37:24 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: SuziQ
Is this the same song that is being sung at the end of "Chariots of Fire"? If so, it's one of my favorites!

I don't think so. The one you are thinking of is a setting of William Blake's poem:

And did those feet in ancient time

Walk upon England's mountains green?

And was the holy Lamb of God

On England's pleasant pastures seen?

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And did the Countenance Divine

Shine forth upon our clouded hills?

And was Jerusalem builded here

Among these dark Satanic mills?

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Bring me my bow of burning gold:

Bring me my arrows of desire:

Bring me my spear: O clouds unfold!

Bring me my chariot of fire.

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I will not cease from mental fight,

Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand

Till we have built Jerusalem

In England's green and pleasant land.

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132 posted on 06/11/2004 5:43:04 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: Jonathan
You can attend or watch church services that "Satan shows up in", I choose not to.

I hereby invite the devil himself to my future wake. He can do the reading (I choose the texts): "And Jesus said, I am the resurrection and the life..."

What a magnificent moment.

133 posted on 06/11/2004 5:47:51 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: churchillbuff
ANTHEM, WILLIAM STEFFE SUNG BY THE ARMED FORCES CHORUS WITH THE US MARINE CHAMBER ORCHESTRA

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord; He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; He hath loosed the fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword; His truth is marching on. Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have seen him in the watchfires of a hundred circling camps; They have builded him an altar in the evening dews and damps; I can read his righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps; His day is marching on. Chorus

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea With a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me. As he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on. Chorus

Julia Ward Howe

During the last chorus, the third reader is led to the lectern for the Gospel lesson.

 

Robert Shaw Chorale - Battle Hymn Of The Republic (1.25 MB MP3 File)

134 posted on 06/11/2004 6:07:52 AM PDT by Eagle9
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To: kenth; kristinn
Now, for some unbelievable info. Well, perfectly believable considering the complete lack of decency of the left. Some group is actually going to have a march and demonstration against President Reagan, and plan to go right up Massachusetts Ave. toward the cathedral to get as close as possible before the service.

I don't know any DC Freepers - Kris, I'm guessing you are one. What can y'all do with (or, better yet, to) these disrespectful snots? This cannot be allowed to happen.
135 posted on 06/11/2004 6:12:38 AM PDT by Xenalyte (It's not often you see Johnny Mathis in the wild.)
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To: Positive
Nancy Reagan invited the imam.

When you die, you can have anybody you want at your funeral.

136 posted on 06/11/2004 6:15:14 AM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: churchillbuff

Bump


137 posted on 06/11/2004 6:36:35 AM PDT by PogySailor (Proud member of the RAM)
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To: Xenalyte

It's America. If the left wants to make utter fools and ghouls of themselves, they can, as long as they don't disrupt the service.


138 posted on 06/11/2004 6:38:45 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: NonValueAdded

Unbeknownst to you, they (the Mormons) probably have the world's largest genealogical library. On this day of mourning don't go causing trouble, be respectful of a great fallen leader, and mourn with the rest of this great nation.


139 posted on 06/11/2004 6:48:40 AM PDT by Issaquahking (U.N., greenies, etc. battling against the U.S. and Constitution one freedom at a time. Fight Back !)
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To: churchillbuff; All

Anyone have any recommendations for which channel would be the best one to tape it from?


140 posted on 06/11/2004 6:50:32 AM PDT by Johnny Gage (God Bless our Firefighters, Police, EMS, responders, and God Bless our Veterans)
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To: Taliesan
I love those words; they bespeak a desire for England to remain in God's grace.

I think someone said that the song being done is the same tune but different words, obviously! ;o)

141 posted on 06/11/2004 7:45:11 AM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004/Because we MUST!!)
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To: piasa
I certainly do lack for grace, particularly when the Imam is representing a religion that says "There is no god but Allah".

Hopefullly the Imam and other muslims in attendance will hear something today that will change their hearts. That is truly God-sized work.

142 posted on 06/11/2004 8:13:02 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that does not trust you with guns?)
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To: Jonathan

Excuse me .. you are naive .. satan shows up whether you want him to or not. The key is .. do you allow that spirit to affect you or do you take authority over it ..??

I've seen people who were demon possessed show up at church events. I saw this couple come in one evening during a special 3 day meeting, and sit just a few rows in front of me. I kept watching her because she was exhibiting some very unusual behavior. I alerted our staff at the church and those of us in authority at the church positioned ourselves around her (a proper distance not to alarm anyone), and then we just watched.

When the service was over and people were standing in a line to greet the guest speaker, some of us kinda stalked her to make sure she didn't attack the guest speaker. We were all relieved when she left.

The following evening she returned .. we did the same thing. 3/4 of the way through the service, she got up and left .. she never came back. The spirit controlling her realized there was no opening for it in our church.


143 posted on 06/11/2004 8:28:39 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: IPWGOP

My Pastor always says, If the devil isn't trying to disrupt your church .. you're not doing ANYTHING FOR GOD.


144 posted on 06/11/2004 8:55:14 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: Issaquahking

It is beknownst to me and you obviously missed the context of the thread. Please re-read it and you will see I meant no harm.


145 posted on 06/11/2004 10:18:06 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Ronald Wilson Reagan (1911-2004))
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To: sinkspur
"Nancy Reagan invited the imam."

I wonder what your source of this information is.

"When you die, you can have anybody you want at your funeral."

Really? In that case, I want you to be here.

146 posted on 06/11/2004 11:13:41 AM PDT by Positive
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To: Positive
"Really? In that case, I want you to be here."

Are you nuts, or what?

That were to happen you'd morph into a Negative.

...*instantly*.

147 posted on 06/11/2004 11:17:21 AM PDT by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: CanisMajor2002
This was a traditional Christian service.

for example: THE BLESSING, BISHOP CHANE The God of peace, who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus Christ, the great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is well-pleasing in his sight; And the blessing of God Almighty, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, be among you, and remain with you always. Amen.

148 posted on 06/11/2004 11:42:22 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Iowa Granny
I go by the name of Iowa Granny in order to keep everyone guessing.

Well, now nobody's guessing, since you've let the cat out of the bag.

149 posted on 06/11/2004 11:43:14 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
"Also, does your hatred of Muslims extend to nations that are allies of the US such as Kuwait, Turkey, Pakistan, Jordan, Egypt, Indonesia?"

First of all I don't hate Muslims. I am a realist however and I recognize that all of the United States' current enemies are Muslims. I do recognize that virtually every American service person killed in service over the last 20 years was killed by Muslims. I do realize that the greatest attack ever against the American homeland was perpetrated by Muslims. I do know that when Americans are harmed "the Muslim street" erupts in celebration.

Turkey an ally - I spent a year in Ankara and experienced first hand (as in in-person) many anti-American actions. Remember last year when the Turks wouldn't allow us to use their land or air space in OIF. I know you're familiar with our term RINO well how about AINO?

Egypt an ally? Why wasn't Mubarack at RWR's memorial. Where was Egypt in OIF?

Pakistan an ally? I spent a year there also. I was stationed at the USAF Station (not base) in Peshawar when the Pakistani government ordered us to leave, permanently in 1969. Why won't this "ally" allow us to cross the Afghan border in pursuit of Al Queada and UBL? AINO?

What has a Jordanian done for us lately, other than caution us not to "destabilize the region?" Don't you remember the Jordanians in Aman cheering as skud missles were launched willy nilly by S Hussein during Desert Storm? AINO.

Indonesia...? Right. Care to vacation in Bali, 200 killed by Muslim terrorists in 2002? Care to visit Jakarta? 14 killed by Muslim terrorists in 2003? How can a place that is in internal upheaval and has had three governments in as many years be an ally of anyone? I don't even know that we have any AINO with them.

And Kuwait! Well we pulled their bacon...I guess I mean mutton out of the fire in 1991. Ally? They are just a bunch of little despots who need us to protect their little sheikdom so that they can afford to charge a 747 on their Mastercard...priceless. AINO.

I notice that you left out Saudi Arabia. AINO.

Are the following allies? Syria, Iran, Yemen...Palestine???

No I don't hate muslims anymore than I would have hated Germans or Japanese during WWII - but they were enemies as is the Muslim World now.

As far as OIF goes, that was an effort to center the War On Terror where it belongs, in the region where terrorism originates, and by the way we liberated Muslims from oppression. You watch Iraq after we leave.

Finally, I've noticed that a goodly part of the anti-American sentiment and urgings to attack Americans were issued by Imams and Ayatollahs (some here in the US)...men of God...hah.

150 posted on 06/11/2004 12:07:04 PM PDT by Positive
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