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Lonely Baby Boomers
Useless-Knowledge ^ | 6/10/04 | Mike Haran

Posted on 06/11/2004 2:21:22 PM PDT by qam1

Now that the boomers are approaching late middle age, they are becoming increasingly exasperated that the fruits of their great reorganization of society are not popular. There is no great uprising against the family, neither has the welfare state caught on, troops coming back from Iraq are not spat upon, neither does gay marriage have any popular support.

It must be frustrating for those who so much wanted to save the world to be looked upon by the world as a bunch of minority odd balls. Africans view abortion as genocide, Asians support the traditional family even more now than in past days if that is possible. True the third world and also the second resents US economic and military strength but this is to be expected. In ancient times there was anti-Greek propaganda where manuscripts were tampered with in order to portray them and their leaders as homosexual. Europe was depicted by third world countries as having become great due to the cheap purchase or theft of its oil minerals and farm produce. (Where are minerals and oil coming from now?)

The tragedy of the baby boomers is just that: they are a generation who elected politicians who passed laws congenial to college students. After all, when 75% of the voting population is under 30 years of age what can you expect.

As the baby boomers come to realize that their lives are built upon a fraud they become more and more embittered seeking to strike out at what they envision as an underhanded conspiracy to deny the world the fruits of the revolution a la The Beatles, Woodstock, et al. Bill Clinton came to power on the Gays in the military platform in order to embarrass those who support the military (mainly Republicans). Water Gate was an ideal platform for those angry with Nixon for getting elected with a landslide victory on a platform against: pot, abortion and the confiscation of wealth (non media wealth) to get even. There is no anti-revolutionary conspiracy. The normal workings of nature is the problem for the baby boomers. Systems put in place over a period of 3000 years temporally over thrown by the young will be subject to the laws of nature which always corrects an imbalance of force.

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About the author Mike Haran: I write articles for military and hobby publications. I Hope to eventually combine some of them into a book. Email: 4258529II@canada.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: babyboomers; genx

1 posted on 06/11/2004 2:21:23 PM PDT by qam1
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To: qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; tortoise; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; malakhi; m18436572; ...
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Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social aspects that directly effects Gen-Reagan/Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details.

2 posted on 06/11/2004 2:22:01 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: qam1

You ought to rename this Lonely Liberal Baby Boomers, cause there's a lot of boomers out there who this would not apply to in any fashion.


3 posted on 06/11/2004 2:28:36 PM PDT by theDentist (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!)
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To: qam1
"Boomers" elected the finest President, Reagan, this country has ever had. They did it twice.

"Xers", given their first opportunity to vote like a grown-up, ushered Bill Clinton into the White House....twice.

4 posted on 06/11/2004 2:30:52 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: qam1

MILF'S ?


5 posted on 06/11/2004 2:32:58 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (As a matter of fact I like beer.)
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To: qam1

I'm a boomer . . . . and I have NO idea what the hell this idiot is talking about.


6 posted on 06/11/2004 2:33:29 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: qam1

Gee, they were the first generation ever to be teenagers, rebel against their parents, have kids, have mid-life crises, go through menopause, and have their own parents get old and infirm, and now they're the first to be over the hill. What would we young folks do if we didn't have their lead to follow?


7 posted on 06/11/2004 2:35:40 PM PDT by Huntress
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To: DustyMoment

I am also a BOOMER and despise the Stainmaster and his followers .Wake up and smell the coffee .


8 posted on 06/11/2004 2:37:16 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: theDentist
I am a Boomer, 20 + years in the Military.

Guess what when the 1st boomer president Klintoon dies I will stand in line to pee on him at his lying in state.

The b******d was drinking Czech beer the day I received my orders to the SEA War Games.

As far as kerry goes, he should of been brought on war crime charges long ago, calling me a baby killer while i was serving in SEA.

BTW must boomer's I have come across are a waste of protoplasm, whiners, who wanted to be served government cheese.

Now, they are crying cause someone is trying to protect their sorry butts.

9 posted on 06/11/2004 2:39:38 PM PDT by dts32041 (What is the exit strategy for Europe and Japan ? - I don't think there was one, we are still there..)
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To: qam1
Bill Clinton came to power on the Gays in the military platform in order to embarrass those who support the military (mainly Republicans).

This is not correct at all. If you go back to 1992, you'll find that "gays in the military" was never a campaign issue and was never promoted as an important policy by the Clinton campaign.

In what ought to be remembered as one of the most colossal political blunders in recent times, "gays in the military" suddenly became a priority in the first days of the Clinton administration in January of 2003. His popularity ratings immediately fell through the floor -- a disaster that he never recovered from during his first term and was largely responsible for the huge GOP gains in both houses of Congress in 1994.

10 posted on 06/11/2004 2:40:43 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: qam1
As the baby boomers come to realize that their lives are built upon a fraud...

My, how sweet the air must be on Mt Olympus.

The word 'respect' falls far short of how we all must feel now that the enlightened-ones have left grade school, and are now walking among us.

Yesterday, one almost actually touched me. I remember the first time one addressed by my name.....well, I was just speechless.

11 posted on 06/11/2004 2:41:38 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: qam1

:::sigh::: Great Society programs were enacted before any baby boomer could vote. Divorce statistics started to grow before baby boomers were old enough to marry. Check out the ages of the leaders of the feminist movement.

Politicians pandered to Senior citizens, because they VOTE, so while boomers were greater in number, they were not a block of much interest to the politicians.

When I became an adult I was greeted by double digit inflation, high tax rates heading higher, double digit interest rates & double digit unemployment numbers & somehow all of the garbage is the fault of people my age?

Dear Gen X, Y & Z,

Get your nose planted deeper into some history books & do a bit of math about the age people were when things started to turn upside down.

I am beyond tired of getting it from both sides.


12 posted on 06/11/2004 2:41:56 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Alberta's Child
Sorry -- I should correct that. I meant to say January of 1993.
13 posted on 06/11/2004 2:41:56 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: DustyMoment

I am also a BOOMER and despise the Stainmaster and his followers .Wake up and smell the coffee .


14 posted on 06/11/2004 2:42:26 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: qam1

Reagan gave the boomers their first opportunity to elect a decent president since Eisenhower. That's when they finally grew up. As a Gen-X'er, I think my ex-hippy, baby-boomer parents came of age when my generation came into being....well, at least some of the baby boomers did.


15 posted on 06/11/2004 2:45:51 PM PDT by Textide
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To: GoLightly

AMEN.


16 posted on 06/11/2004 2:46:24 PM PDT by walden
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To: laotzu
"Boomers" elected the finest President, Reagan, this country has ever had. They did it twice.

Do you have a reference for that? The post-war aged voters were the most opposed to Reagan, and are still the most democratic age-demographic today. Although a slim majority may have swung for Reagain in 1984, President Reagan and both Presidents Bush's were elected in spite of them, not by them.

17 posted on 06/11/2004 2:50:46 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Though a small sample, my ex-hippy parents are a reference.


18 posted on 06/11/2004 2:54:14 PM PDT by Textide
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To: dts32041
Well, speaking of many "wastes of protoplasm" who post on this board, it might surprise you to know that the following people are Boomers:
George and Laura Bush
Michael Reagan
Rush Limbaugh
Newt Gingrich
Colin Powell
John Ashcroft
Both the chairman and the vice-charman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
All Generals in Central Command
Tommy Franks

Now, could we have a little less generational bashing, please? I do not judge my son's generation by Asley Judd and the slacker at the local mini-mart.

19 posted on 06/11/2004 2:58:20 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: qam1

This post ignores all of the patriotic boomers who fought for our nation in Vietnam. Lumping everyone born between 1945 and 19?? together is a terrible mistake. Many of us who are in the baby boomer category are not as the post describes.

Lots of them are right here on FR.


20 posted on 06/11/2004 2:58:41 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: qam1
It is more likely that more of them (or perhaps I should say "us," as I am a boomer) will become more conservative as they age, as is the case with most generations. You will always have the hold outs, of course, but I still predict a change of heart. In fact if Bush gets another term, the GOP holds the Hill and together can get some real results, we may see a great wave turn toward the right during his term. I have been waiting for it for some years. Remember that those just retiring were born just before WW2. has the decade unfolds the real first wave if boomers - those 55 now will start to see what has been wrought, and see it in their own adult children. The 2 successive waves after that - those that are 60 now and in their 40's will see that wave in front and it will be a cautionary tale. Life is odd, sometimes one completely changes ones views.

At least I hope so for the last thing we need is for another 30 years of a united, parasitic and retired block of voters and large as the boomers. They will still outvote the Xers.

It is clear what is needed: A reinvestment in the nation; a revitalization of American civiliztion. We must renew and store ourselves.

This can only happen by a reduction in government social spending and entitlement and a radical reduction in taxes and regulation. The next few years shall be crucial. You Xers should fight like mad against socialized medicine. If we have full socialization America will end up with an economy like those of France or Argentina.

Start building a movement now.

21 posted on 06/11/2004 3:09:32 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: GoLightly

Thank you for this point. I have seen Baby Boomers being blamed for raising and using up Social Security - when none of us were involved with the birth of the thing in the first place, and none of us have yet reached retirement age, and none of us, probably, will collect even a tenth of what we have put into it (current retirees get 7 times more than they put into it). Furthermore, the system will be revised in this generation, so people younger than we are will probably get to keep their own money to invest as they see fit in retirement programs.

The people who were our teachers - and who spread the disastrous garbage that infected our minds in the 1960s - were 20 years older than we were. Some of my teachers had gone to school on the GI bill after they served in the military; others had never served, but they had all lived through WWII and should have known better. And they were horrible. In New York, every public school teacher (at high school level) thought himself the left-wing enlightener of minds. It started in NY, and was generalized by the 70s. When I think back on the garbage we were subjected to, it's a wonder we didn't turn out a lot worse than we did.

There has been much speculation on the reason for this. Many left-wing intellectuals fled to the US at that time and took up residence in universities, so it is possible that they had some influence; on the other hand, it is possible that the many native-born Communists who were buried deep in the US academy and arts suddenly ripened and got to exert their influence. (Remember, Reagan was unpopular because he fought against these people, who were of his generation, not Boomers.)

So I think saying everything is the fault of Boomers is ridiculous. The biggest thing that is their fault directly, as far as I can see, is a failure to have children - but since many of us Boomers grew up in dissolving marriages and fragmenting families, coupled with the collapse of the Catholic Church (for which much older people were responsible), perhaps there's some reason for that.


22 posted on 06/11/2004 3:22:58 PM PDT by livius
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To: Miss Marple
Yeah and look how they have been treated by the majority of baby boomer's.

The ones who didn't serve, the ones who ran from the draft, etc.

The majority of baby boomer's are cowards who when asked to serve said who me, let george do it.

To boomer's who served you are the exception as that proves the point.

23 posted on 06/11/2004 3:27:48 PM PDT by dts32041 (What is the exit strategy for Europe and Japan ? - I don't think there was one, we are still there..)
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To: qam1

"After all, when 75% of the voting population is under 30 years of age what can you expect."

Since this statement by the author is factually false, consider everything else simply his misguided opinion.

This boomer served in the army, voted for Ford, Reaganx2, Bushx2, Dole and Bush. Same for my wife.


24 posted on 06/11/2004 3:34:02 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: laotzu
"Xers", given their first opportunity to vote like a grown-up, ushered Bill Clinton into the White House....twice.

Wrong. The oldest Gen-Xers became eligible to vote in 1982. Only about half of the Gen-Xers were old enough to vote in 1992, and young adults are much less likely to vote than adults in their 30s and beyond.

In 2008 the combined Gen-X and Gen-Y eligible voters will still be slightly short of half the total eligible voters.

In 2012 the combined Gen-X and Gen-Y eligible voters will be right at half the eligible voters, and thereafter will be a majority.

Gen-X and Gen-Y are trending more conservative than our Boomer voters, and they are more likely to be politically active because their standard of living will continue to decrease due to Boomer politics.

25 posted on 06/11/2004 3:37:31 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: theDentist
You ought to rename this Lonely Liberal Baby Boomers, cause there's a lot of boomers out there who this would not apply to in any fashion.

Thanks for saying that. I was getting steamed reading it.

26 posted on 06/11/2004 3:37:33 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: laotzu

Your talking about those Seattle Grunge Rock idiot Xers. The Xers I know didn't.


27 posted on 06/11/2004 3:37:34 PM PDT by BBell
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To: laotzu
"Xers", given their first opportunity to vote like a grown-up, ushered Bill Clinton into the White House....twice.

My first vote was for George Bush I, I am 5 years into the X generation so many Xers first votes were for Ronald Reagan in 1984

The only reason Bill Clinton won in 1992 was "Read My lips no new taxes" and in 1996 was because of Bob Dole.

But let's not forget since the Xers have "grown up" we have had straight Republican Congresses every year.

28 posted on 06/11/2004 3:52:16 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: GoLightly
Great Society programs were enacted before any baby boomer could vote.

You are correct that the War on Poverty Act started the ball rolling in 1964, just when Boomers reached 18 (voting age was 21 then). The economy was still booming from the Ike years, and Congress kept spending in spite of Vietnam.

It was 1974 when the real nasty activist Democrat Boomers took over Congress, and held both houses until 1994, with the exception of two years of a slight GOP majority in the Senate during Reagan's term.

The election of Reagan in 1980 was a revolt by sensible people of all ages who were suffering from the damage cause by the Democrat congress of the 1970s, and topped off with Carter's incompetence.

GHWB didn't have Reagan's range of appeal, and couldn't hold back the tide of Boomer liberals bent on revenge in 1992. And they took it.

29 posted on 06/11/2004 3:53:13 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: qam1

No wonder I couldn't make heads nor tails of this.

I've always considered myself an individual, not part of a group, bloc, coalition, or any other collection of wandering sheep.

Yes, I've been a registered member of FreeRepublic.com for many years, but I consider myself an individual in a group of other like-minded individuals.

This insessant classification of groups may signify a victory by the Left.

STOP THIS!

BE YOURSELF!!!


30 posted on 06/11/2004 3:54:53 PM PDT by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: dts32041
The majority of baby boomer's are cowards who when asked to serve said who me, let george do it.

Tell that to the 1,509,637 who served in the active Army in 1969, and that's not counting those who seved in the Air Force, Navy, Coast Guard, National Guard or Reserve Units.

How many of your generation served in the Armed Forces?

How many of your generation would welcome the return to the draft with open arms if it was necessary.

31 posted on 06/11/2004 4:02:11 PM PDT by WASH
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To: Pete'sWife
I've always considered myself an individual, not part of a group, bloc, coalition, or any other collection of wandering sheep.

Individuality in daily life is commendable, and conservatives seem to live better lives like that than liberals.

Unfortunately, elections are won by groups of voters (the groups with the largest number of voters). The disgustingly diverse liberals seem to understand that so much better than the conservatives, and they work hard to keep the conservatives split in ever smaller cliques.

This is exactly why Boomer liberals have been able to exert such a disproportionate degree of control over the political process since 1974, and not because they ever had a majority.

32 posted on 06/11/2004 4:05:19 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

Yeah, but I'm an individual who happens to be/live/vote conservative.

There are millions of us who unite only when we enter the voting booth - alone.

Just wait 'til November!

(Peter Jennings will, once again, call it a tantrum.)


33 posted on 06/11/2004 4:08:05 PM PDT by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: WASH
You just gave the statistics, as far as the draft, if every swinging richard and richardette were subject to it, I might, notice I say might, consider it, but I prefer the use of the local militia, backing a small professional force.

The other solution is offering the franchise to those who have successfully completed a term of service.

To understand a society you have to have a stake in it.

The majority of baby boomer's don't have that stake in the society.

34 posted on 06/11/2004 4:11:33 PM PDT by dts32041 (What is the exit strategy for Europe and Japan ? - I don't think there was one, we are still there..)
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To: qam1
This is one of the most stupid-*ss threads I've ever seen on FR.

It does nothing but promote dissent between us.

Kill it!

35 posted on 06/11/2004 4:14:45 PM PDT by Looking4Truth ((Muslim internment camps in the U.S. NOW!!!))
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To: Pete'sWife
Just wait 'til November!

I hope for and expect a GOP sweep.

I believe the liberal hey-day is coming to an end, but the economic damage and the resentment of younger workers toward the Boomers will continue for decades.

36 posted on 06/11/2004 4:17:00 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: dts32041
The other solution is offering the franchise to those who have successfully completed a term of service

You're not saying "let George do it", are you? What do you mean by "franchise"?

37 posted on 06/11/2004 4:19:26 PM PDT by WASH
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To: WASH

The vote.


38 posted on 06/11/2004 4:20:52 PM PDT by dts32041 (What is the exit strategy for Europe and Japan ? - I don't think there was one, we are still there..)
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To: Pete'sWife
OK, so in the sprit of getting along and because I am a nice guy, I actually just posted a positive Baby Boomer article
39 posted on 06/11/2004 4:28:15 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: dts32041

This is the United States, not a SciFi Movie/Book.


40 posted on 06/11/2004 4:29:43 PM PDT by WASH
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To: WASH
So what is your objection to earning the right to vote?

Something earned is more valuable than something given.

41 posted on 06/11/2004 4:34:38 PM PDT by dts32041 (What is the exit strategy for Europe and Japan ? - I don't think there was one, we are still there..)
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To: qam1

bump


42 posted on 06/11/2004 4:36:48 PM PDT by VOA
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To: qam1

You do not get it & I doubt you will, because like a lefty intellectual, you think you know, when you obviously don't.


43 posted on 06/11/2004 4:39:23 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: livius

Yep on everything in your post. Nothing like having depression babies in power to set up a mess that is sure to fall apart, well after they are gone.


44 posted on 06/11/2004 4:56:50 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: meadsjn
It was 1974 when the real nasty activist Democrat Boomers took over Congress, and held both houses until 1994,

Who were all of these nasty, activist 28 year old legislators & how did they get so powerful, while they were first term, junior members of Congress?

45 posted on 06/11/2004 5:01:22 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: theDentist
You ought to rename this Lonely Liberal Baby Boomers, cause there's a lot of boomers out there who this would not apply to in any fashion.

Bingo! And I'm proud to say our contribution to the next generation are growing/have grown up conservative!!!

47 posted on 06/11/2004 5:59:50 PM PDT by Clint Williams (RR to the surgeons as he entered the operating room, "I hope you're all Republicans.")
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To: qam1

This Gen X/Y-baby-boomer-whining-stuff is such BS. I'm sick of it.

Tell you what, Gen X/Yers - you think you have all the answers? Print this entire thread out and put it in a safe place for the next 30 - 40 years. Then pull it out and read it again. If you are as wonderful as you believe yourselves to be, you will be embarrassed at the crap you wrote here.

By that time, your children will be telling you how YOU screwed up THEIR world and THEIR future. Enjoy the ride!


48 posted on 06/12/2004 1:51:39 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: dts32041

"[Boomers] who wanted to be served government cheese."

Are we supposed to say moose now?


49 posted on 06/12/2004 1:57:27 AM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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